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Winston Churchill
« on: June 13, 2004, 05:12:21 PM »
I just read an article claiming Winston Churchill was a devout druid. Any one know if this is true?

if you want to read the article/essay - http://www.angelfire.com/weird2/obscure2/druid.html
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Re:Winston Churchill
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2004, 06:00:02 PM »
Winston Churchill was not a "devout druid" of the pagan variety but a member of a secular "druidic" organization that promoted poetry and British literary arts.  It is far from a secret Freemason organization and most definitely not sun worshippers who prance about Stonehenge during the solstices.
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Re:Winston Churchill
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2004, 04:04:28 AM »
ah ok...thanks Schultz.
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Re:Winston Churchill
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2004, 04:08:26 AM »
Shultz is correct here.  The same goes for Dr. Rowan Williams, the protestant AB of Canterbury, with a similar organization dedicated to promoting traditional Welsh culture and language.

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Re:Winston Churchill
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2004, 04:13:54 AM »
hmm...thanks Joe!
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Re:Winston Churchill
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2004, 04:17:47 AM »
yeah some people make a big deal over it, but it is no different than say someone participating in "Hieland games" if they are of Scottish or Ulster-scott (Sctoch-Irish) descent.

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Re:Winston Churchill
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2004, 05:14:29 AM »
Yep, it's just that the word druid now has mythopoeic or neopagan connotations where originally if I understand it correctly, the usage was wider than a supernatural focus.
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Re:Winston Churchill
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2004, 06:12:16 PM »
It is often useful when finding something, shall we say, unusual or a "startling revelation" on the Net to go to the home page if possible or check other parts of the site or the links.  One may find that the promulgator of the "information" may have an ax to grind or a particular hobbyhorse in harness or that it's sheer nonsense that someone thinks means a great deal.  "Extraordinary Claims require Extraordinary Proof".  Just being in print or on the web doesn't make something so.

Thank you, Joe for mentioning the case of The Right Rev. Rowan Williams. That bit of furor a while back was tiresome.  One point, I don't think any other Church has an Archbishop of Canterbury and anyway, if there were "Cantuar" would be the *Anglican* ABC.

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Re:Winston Churchill
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2004, 07:04:37 PM »
sorry Ebor I said the P word out of habit.  I generally clarify with Protestant or Anglican as not all here are as familiar with that See as you or I.

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Re:Winston Churchill
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2004, 09:18:21 PM »
I just read where presidents Harding, Franklin Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy and Ford were all Elks.  It's strange that they would transmogrify into an animal such as the Elk, but there's a web site which says that they actually became one of those animals.  Oh wait, they were members of the Elks Lodge Fraternal Organization!  I guess people can take things out of context and read too much into them.  :)

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Re:Winston Churchill
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2004, 11:19:54 PM »
LOL, Theodore. And there's so much of this transmogrification out there will the Elks and the Moose and the Lions Club...

  And then there is that society of the "Odd Fellows".. must be something strange there.  ;D ;D

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