I can't begrudge the Turks celebrating the essential birth of their nation, but after all these years, after their decimation of the Christian (an probably Jewish, I don't know for sure) populous during the later 67 years of the 20th century, including their failure to comply with their own court's order to compensate the Greek populous and the Greek Orthodox Churches for their Pogrom of 1956, they remain an oppressive, medieval, barbaric nation in their continued suppression of the legitimate rights, for purely religious purposes, of the Ecumenical Patriarchate and the Greek Orthodox Churches of Istanbul, a people and religious institution which predates their conquest by 1,415 years; that's what I find unbelievable and why I consider Turkey an uncivilized state, not-with-standing pretenses to the contrary in their constitution.