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The destinations of the Apostles
« on: May 30, 2011, 11:44:58 AM »
I enjoy reading about the lives of the saints. As I understand, the Apostles traveled far and wide to preach the Gospel. These are the destinations I can recall:

St. Thomas- India
St. James- Spain & other pts. Europe
St. Andrew- pts. of Europe
Sts. Peter and Paul- Asia Minor, pts. Europe

Would anyone happen to know where the others traveled to? I am thinking of the Twelve, and those we know of from the Seventy as well.

Thanks in advance for any help.   :)
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Re: The destinations of the Apostles
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2011, 06:18:48 AM »
Saint Bartholomew comes to mind as the first Apostle to Armenia.
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Re: The destinations of the Apostles
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2011, 06:19:14 AM »
Saint Mark to Egypt and Pentapolis.
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Re: The destinations of the Apostles
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2011, 06:19:41 AM »
Saint John is associated with Asia Minor.
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Re: The destinations of the Apostles
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2011, 06:31:52 AM »
Thank you.  :)
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Re: The destinations of the Apostles
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2011, 07:05:39 AM »
Sure!
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Re: The destinations of the Apostles
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2011, 09:06:25 AM »
I will just say that Wikipedia has some evidence on it that St. James son of Zebedee never actually got out of Jerusalem.
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Re: The destinations of the Apostles
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2011, 06:31:43 PM »

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If we look over the first sermon of St. Chrysostom's homilies on the Holy Gospel of St. Matthew we will find him saying that the early Church believed the Apostle's fulfilled the Great Commission, going to the whole world all within their lifetimes. There should be no problem finding an English translation online.

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Re: The destinations of the Apostles
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2011, 06:41:42 PM »
St. Philip went with St. Nathaniel (Bartholomew) to Syria, Greece and Phrygia in Asia Minor. He was martyred in Hierapolis.
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Re: The destinations of the Apostles
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2011, 08:35:05 PM »
Can anyone point to more info on the alleged quote of St. Chrysostom that says the Apostles went to the whole world?  We have no evidence or stories (to my knowledge) that they ever got to Japan or South Africa, or Indonesia, let alone Australia, New Zealand, or the Americas.  If the Saint did in fact say this, I think he was most mistaken.
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Re: The destinations of the Apostles
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2011, 08:38:40 PM »
Ss. Peter and Paul -> Rome  ;D

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Re: The destinations of the Apostles
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2011, 09:59:42 AM »
Can anyone point to more info on the alleged quote of St. Chrysostom that says the Apostles went to the whole world?  We have no evidence or stories (to my knowledge) that they ever got to Japan or South Africa, or Indonesia, let alone Australia, New Zealand, or the Americas.  If the Saint did in fact say this, I think he was most mistaken.
Was he more mistaken than St Luke? (chapter 2, verse 1, NKJV) "And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered."


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Re: The destinations of the Apostles
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2011, 12:33:37 PM »
Well St. Luke would more directly be talking about "all the world" as in, all of the Roman Empire - seeing as how Caesar Augustus had no authority to demand (nor probably the desire to) registration of all of China for example.  That's one reason I wanted St. Chysostom's quote if he in fact said anything like that, so that I can see if in context it refers to all of the known world, or even specifically all of the Roman Empire.
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Re: The destinations of the Apostles
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2011, 02:17:20 PM »
Well St. Luke would more directly be talking about "all the world" as in, all of the Roman Empire - seeing as how Caesar Augustus had no authority to demand (nor probably the desire to) registration of all of China for example.  That's one reason I wanted St. Chysostom's quote if he in fact said anything like that, so that I can see if in context it refers to all of the known world, or even specifically all of the Roman Empire.
Yes, what you say is true that the reference is to "all the (Roman) world". However, St Luke did not amend that in any way, so unless he was being sarcastic - not likely! - he used the same terminology, meaning, really the world as it was known by him at the time.

We do the same thing ourselves. How often have parents heard, "But everybody is doing it!" We crown Miss/Mr Universe - how many contestants arrived in a space vehicle?

We tend to see things from our own perspective. That isn't wrong and isn't a mistake. Please note that what I take exception to is your suggestion that in this matter St John Chrysostom might have been "most mistaken". Of course, there's nothing wrong in your trying to establish the exact quote from the Saint to understand better his message. I hope you do track it down and report back to us. I'd be interested, too.

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Re: The destinations of the Apostles
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2011, 02:52:24 PM »
I do not in any way intend to suggest that I actually think St. Chrysostom was wrong (I should probably have been clearer, sometimes things don't exactly get communicated well over the internet), I admire him greatly.  Rather, I suppose I assumed that the poster I was responding to - based on some past posts of his on other issues - may have interpreted whatever he claims the Saint said, as being quite literal, and was responding from that angle.  If St. Chrysostom really did mean that the Apostles traveled over the entire world spreading the Gospel, I think we would have to say that he was in fact wrong, given that there is no reason - to my knowledge - to think that they even traveled over all of Eurasia and Africa, let alone to North and South America.

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Re: The destinations of the Apostles
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2011, 02:58:46 PM »
I recall from Acts that Barnabas took Mark and went to Cyprus.  I don't recall what he did thereafter.
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Re: The destinations of the Apostles
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2011, 03:00:56 PM »
On CCEL, all St. Chrysostom's homilies on Matthew Chapter 28 only address verses 11-14, not the Great Commission, so I really have no idea where this quote is even supposed to be, unless someone can tell me that CCEL is incomplete.
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