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« on: May 29, 2011, 01:58:25 PM »

I'm hoping the answer is no but can you get a mix of Orthodox and something else say reformed?? So like someone could be a mix of both in their beliefs. I have read ppl are anglobapticostal to try and show what they believe... so can Orthodox beliefs and doctrine be mixed with other Christian beliefs successfully?? Or would that be badly heretical?? Thanks Popps

OH also what about the Holy Catholic and Apostolic church.... that Catholic in there don't mean the same as Catholic as in Roman Catholic does it?? There are different definitions about it online.
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2011, 02:09:31 PM »

I'm hoping the answer is no but can you get a mix of Orthodox and something else say reformed?? So like someone could be a mix of both in their beliefs. I have read ppl are anglobapticostal to try and show what they believe... so can Orthodox beliefs and doctrine be mixed with other Christian beliefs successfully?? Or would that be badly heretical?? Thanks Popps
As long as those beliefs aren't heretical there is a great deal of leeway. That said it would be a mine field. Every protestant denomination holds to beliefs considered heretical. For example the "reformed" Churches hold to Calvinism, a belief system replete with heresy.

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OH also what about the Holy Catholic and Apostolic church.... that Catholic in there don't mean the same as Catholic as in Roman Catholic does it?? There are different definitions about it online.
We apply the same meaning to it the RC's do, as the Church always has. Those different definitions are all rather modern innovations.
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2011, 02:57:56 PM »

I'm hoping the answer is no but can you get a mix of Orthodox and something else say reformed??
No.  The Orthodox faith never veered from the Apostolic teachings so there is nothing to be reformed.
 
I have read ppl are anglobapticostal to try and show what they believe...
It's more than likely that said people are either confused or do not really understand what they believe.  Either way, such a concept doesn't exist in Orthodoxy because it is already complete and adheres to the fullness (katholikos-catholic) of the faith.

OH also what about the Holy Catholic and Apostolic church.... that Catholic in there don't mean the same as Catholic as in Roman Catholic does it??
That's what it means to Roman Catholics.  But to Orthodox Christians, we believe that it implies to us and only to us.
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2011, 07:55:15 PM »

Why would one seek to muddy the True Faith with the heresies of man?
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2011, 08:18:54 PM »

Catholic is the English transliteration of the Greek katholiki, which is said to derive from kata-(h)olos -- meaning "according to the whole", and therefore "whole", "full", "lacking in nothing", "universal".

Both the Roman church and the Orthodox church claim to be the one holy, catholic and apostolic Church founded by Christ, so, in that sense, the word means the same to us as it does to them, but we are not claiming to be Roman Catholics when we recite the creed.

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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2011, 06:06:56 AM »

Yeah it all helps
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2011, 06:25:36 AM »

No.  The Orthodox faith never veered from the Apostolic teachings so there is nothing to be reformed.

There is more to what goes on in church than just the Tradition. Why would the extra not be reformable?
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2011, 08:33:05 AM »

What "extra"??
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2011, 08:47:32 AM »

What "extra"??

Is this a serious question?

You think parish councils are part of the Tradition of the Church?
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2011, 09:45:15 AM »

YES its a serious friken question!!....do you see a winky emoticon at the end of the sentence? ? ?

Maybe you can just answer it and tell me what you meant rather then answering with another question of your own.
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2011, 09:58:13 AM »

What "extra"??

Is this a serious question?

You think parish councils are part of the Tradition of the Church?

Sort of...Acts 6:1-5: "Now in these days when the disciples were increasing in number, the Hellenists murmured against the Hebrews because their widows were neglected in the daily distribution. And the twelve summoned the body of the disciples and said, "It is not right that we should give up preaching the word of God to serve tables. Therefore, brethren, pick out from among you seven men of good repute, full of the Spirit and of wisdom, whom we may appoint to this duty. But we will devote ourselves to prayer and to the ministry of the word." And what they said pleased the whole multitude, and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolaus, a proselyte of Antioch."
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2011, 05:38:37 PM »

Maybe you can just answer it and tell me what you meant rather then answering with another question of your own.

My original post was pretty straightforward. Many aspects of what is done within the Church is not the Apostolic Tradition and should be capable of reformation.
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2011, 05:39:31 PM »

What "extra"??

Is this a serious question?

You think parish councils are part of the Tradition of the Church?

Sort of...Acts 6:1-5: "Now in these days when the disciples were increasing in number, the Hellenists murmured against the Hebrews because their widows were neglected in the daily distribution. And the twelve summoned the body of the disciples and said, "It is not right that we should give up preaching the word of God to serve tables. Therefore, brethren, pick out from among you seven men of good repute, full of the Spirit and of wisdom, whom we may appoint to this duty. But we will devote ourselves to prayer and to the ministry of the word." And what they said pleased the whole multitude, and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolaus, a proselyte of Antioch."

What does the passage about Deacons have to do with parish councils?
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2011, 07:02:52 PM »

Maybe you can just answer it and tell me what you meant rather then answering with another question of your own.

My original post was pretty straightforward. Many aspects of what is done within the Church is not the Apostolic Tradition and should be capable of reformation.

What this is straightforward to someone who don't know anything much about your church???
"You think parish councils are part of the Tradition of the Church?"

I have no idea what parish councils or traditions are im not from any church background or any religion ever!! So when i ask you "What extra??" you should just answer the question straight instead of acting like a knob!!!
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2011, 07:58:36 PM »

Maybe you can just answer it and tell me what you meant rather then answering with another question of your own.

My original post was pretty straightforward. Many aspects of what is done within the Church is not the Apostolic Tradition and should be capable of reformation.

What this is straightforward to someone who don't know anything much about your church???
"You think parish councils are part of the Tradition of the Church?"

I have no idea what parish councils or traditions are im not from any church background or any religion ever!! So when i ask you "What extra??" you should just answer the question straight instead of acting like a knob!!!

Well, I apologize if you got the impression that I was treated you like you should know this, however, I was originally addressing Gabriel.
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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2011, 06:31:11 AM »

Maybe you can just answer it and tell me what you meant rather then answering with another question of your own.

My original post was pretty straightforward. Many aspects of what is done within the Church is not the Apostolic Tradition and should be capable of reformation.

What this is straightforward to someone who don't know anything much about your church???
"You think parish councils are part of the Tradition of the Church?"

I have no idea what parish councils or traditions are im not from any church background or any religion ever!! So when i ask you "What extra??" you should just answer the question straight instead of acting like a knob!!!

Well, I apologize if you got the impression that I was treated you like you should know this, however, I was originally addressing Gabriel.

There's a OP and it was started by me. Whoever jumps in is fine and even if they have a convo about their own thing that's fine too.... that's what threads are all about and sometimes the tangents and secondary discussions are interesting.... but don't think you can just carry on a convo with your lil buddy and not expect me to ask what your going on about!!! If you want that sort of convo then start your own thread.

Haha... your apologising because I got the wrong impression??? lolOl too funny
Save that sort of apology for someone who fell out the stupid tree and hit all the branches
Anyways....lets forget it and move on.
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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2011, 08:20:55 AM »

What "extra"??

Is this a serious question?

You think parish councils are part of the Tradition of the Church?

Sort of...Acts 6:1-5: "Now in these days when the disciples were increasing in number, the Hellenists murmured against the Hebrews because their widows were neglected in the daily distribution. And the twelve summoned the body of the disciples and said, "It is not right that we should give up preaching the word of God to serve tables. Therefore, brethren, pick out from among you seven men of good repute, full of the Spirit and of wisdom, whom we may appoint to this duty. But we will devote ourselves to prayer and to the ministry of the word." And what they said pleased the whole multitude, and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolaus, a proselyte of Antioch."

What does the passage about Deacons have to do with parish councils?

The distinction between the role of the presbyter and others from the laity who were chosen to due tasks not directly related to the ministry of the presbyters was foreshadowed to an extent by this passage. That's all. I am certainly NOT equating the typical parish council of our times to the first Deacons.
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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2011, 10:42:03 AM »

Maybe you can just answer it and tell me what you meant rather then answering with another question of your own.

My original post was pretty straightforward. Many aspects of what is done within the Church is not the Apostolic Tradition and should be capable of reformation.

Deusveritatest--Convert Issues is not an appropriate place to start discussing faith issues. If you cannot refrain from arguing a point that has nothing to do with a potential convert's questions, would you please take it to another section or start another topic, if you are approaching it from a petential convert POV? Thanks, Second Chance
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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2011, 03:38:30 PM »

Maybe you can just answer it and tell me what you meant rather then answering with another question of your own.

My original post was pretty straightforward. Many aspects of what is done within the Church is not the Apostolic Tradition and should be capable of reformation.

Deusveritatest--Convert Issues is not an appropriate place to start discussing faith issues. If you cannot refrain from arguing a point that has nothing to do with a potential convert's questions, would you please take it to another section or start another topic, if you are approaching it from a petential convert POV? Thanks, Second Chance

I don't understand. What I was talking about had everything to do with the OP:

I'm hoping the answer is no but can you get a mix of Orthodox and something else say reformed??
No.  The Orthodox faith never veered from the Apostolic teachings so there is nothing to be reformed.
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