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Paperback Orthodox Bible
« on: May 23, 2011, 08:36:49 PM »
There used to be a paperback version of the Orthodox Study Bible, (New Testament.)

Does that still exist? 

If not, what is a good alternative for prisoners who can't have hard bound books.  I know there is a leather version of the OSB, but we need something cheaper.

My priest liked giving the paperback OSB to prisoners he visited, but he now needs an alternative since it doesn't exist anymore. (Or does it? I hope I'm wrong.)

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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2011, 12:31:27 AM »
There was a paperback of the OSB NT and psalms. I don't think they ever had a paperback of the whole thing (I could be wrong).

If Amazon is anything to go by, it is out of print now.

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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2011, 01:28:51 AM »
That's the one that I'm talking about:  The paperback New Testament and Psalms of the OSB.  It's too bad that it is out of print, as it was good for prison ministry.

I'm wondering now what paperback Bible exists out there that Orthodox chaplains use in US prisons.


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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2011, 01:53:54 AM »
According to the Publishers website they still sell the hardcover edition of the NT + psalms, which seems odd... usually publishers abandon the hardcover for the paperback. (due to much lower print costs)

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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2011, 02:10:03 AM »
Yeah, that really is odd.  You would think they would keep the paper back instead.  It provides a cheaper alternative for those who don't have a lot of money.  Also, as noted above, the paper back can be used in prison ministry, since prisoners can't have hard backed books.  It doesn't make sense to me that they would get rid of the paper back and keep the hard back.

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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2011, 03:30:58 AM »
Someone contact Dn. Michael Hyatt, he has influence in the company, to put it lightly, and ought to be sympathetic to Orthodox prison ministry
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2011, 02:33:59 PM »
Someone contact Dn. Michael Hyatt, he has influence in the company, to put it lightly, and ought to be sympathetic to Orthodox prison ministry
Isn't he the CEO?

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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2011, 03:04:16 PM »
Someone contact Dn. Michael Hyatt, he has influence in the company, to put it lightly, and ought to be sympathetic to Orthodox prison ministry
Isn't he the CEO?

Was the CEO. He turned the position over to someone else recently.
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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2011, 07:40:50 PM »
He's still Chairman though, last I read.
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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2011, 07:54:40 PM »
What company are you talking about?

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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2011, 08:01:10 PM »
What company are you talking about?
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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2011, 08:12:08 PM »
I would actually like a mini-Bible version, it would probably have to be without the commentary and such but a mini, pocket-sized version would be nice.
In addition to one available on the Iphone

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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2011, 08:42:40 PM »
A very nice poster here gave me this link to the Greek Archdiocese, which has the paper back New Testament:

http://www.orthodoxmarketplace.com/bibles/study-bibles/nkjv-orthodox-study-new-testament-paperback.html

Hooray for the Greeks!   :)

Thank you, very nice poster.   :)

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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2011, 08:47:02 PM »
I would actually like a mini-Bible version, it would probably have to be without the commentary and such but a mini, pocket-sized version would be nice.
In addition to one available on the Iphone

This may be what you want:

http://www.orthodoxmarketplace.com/bibles/the-orthodox-military-new-testament-rsv.html

I was actually thinking of this as a possible replacement for the paper back OSB.  The thing that made me think twice, though, was the fact that it's the RSV version, which some people find hard to read, especially if you are not a native speaker of English. 

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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2011, 01:00:33 AM »
Why exactly do military members need their own special Bible?  Next we'll have Orthodox Mothers Bible, Orthodox Father's Bible, Orthodox Son's Bible, Orthodox Daughter's Bible, and Orthdox Grandparent's Bible.  After that, they'll follow it up with Orthodox Firefighter's Bible and Orthdox Policeman's Bible.  In the third round they'll include the Orthodox Chef's Bible.  Pretty soon the Orthodox will rival Chicken Soup for the Soul.
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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2011, 02:08:20 AM »
I guess the idea is that soldiers have a particularly scary job and need all the help, support and comfort they can get.  They have special New Testaments for soldiers in Armenia also, which you can see at about two and a half minutes into this video:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ArmenianChurch#p/u/239/ciKhm41IC0o

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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2011, 02:44:11 AM »
I would agree that members of the military do have a tough and - in most people's case - frightening job, especially when they are overseas.  However, shouldn't the message of the Gospels be enough?  What makes a "military" Bible so different from other Bibles?  Do they change the words?  The only thing I have ever been able to notice is that they will usually include a handful of pages (if that many) of pro-military stuff and then they are usually either covered in a flag pattern or occasionally in camo.  I could see how maybe you would have a military study Bible, with many articles and footnotes that relate to the military.  However, any instance I've ever seen of a military Bible just glorifies the military in a handful of pages with some quotes taken out of context from the rest of the book of the Bible, and wrapped in a flag and patriotism.  All the ones I've seen in stores seem to just glorify the military, the state, and war.  I don't see this as productive to anyone's soul's state.

P.S. I have no idea what they were saying in the video, and so my question could be totally stupid, but couldn't those Bibles in the video simply have been camo on the cover so that they could blend in in the event they are present at a battlefield?
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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2011, 03:05:33 AM »
I think the basic idea is to have the camouflage on the cover so they blend in.  I mean, if you are on a border where enemy snipers are nearby, you don't want a Bible with a shiny red cover sticking out of your pocket.   :)

I've seen the military Bibles sold by the Greek Archdiocese, and if I recall correctly, they also have icons and prayers inside them.  They are kind of nice, and I would imagine they are good for other people beside soldiers.

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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2011, 03:30:16 AM »
That's the thing.  If a military Bible has much spiritual use, it is almost certainly useful to everyone, and so why not just publish it as the X Publishing House Study Bible or X Publishing House Orthodox Bible with Prayers?  Why does it have to be marketed toward members of the military unless the difference is just that it is camo so that it can keep people who have it at the front lines don't get shot?  I have nothing against a Bible targeted toward the military that is in camo.  But I don't know why we need to market Bibles to specific groups.  If the prayers and icons are useful to those outside the military, will you then start to publish the exact same thing as the Housewife's Bible?  Or as the Priest's Bible?  Or as the Teacher's Bible?  Why does a Bible need to be marketed to specific groups like that?
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2011, 01:25:30 PM »
That's the thing.  If a military Bible has much spiritual use, it is almost certainly useful to everyone, and so why not just publish it as the X Publishing House Study Bible or X Publishing House Orthodox Bible with Prayers?  Why does it have to be marketed toward members of the military unless the difference is just that it is camo so that it can keep people who have it at the front lines don't get shot?  I have nothing against a Bible targeted toward the military that is in camo.  But I don't know why we need to market Bibles to specific groups.  If the prayers and icons are useful to those outside the military, will you then start to publish the exact same thing as the Housewife's Bible?  Or as the Priest's Bible?  Or as the Teacher's Bible?  Why does a Bible need to be marketed to specific groups like that?

Because the military are often placed in a very unique situation by serving overseas or in combat situations. Anyone who follows the activities of St. George's Orthodox Military Association will quickly become aware that unique resources have been produced directly aimed at service members. Such resources may be useful to those outside of the military, but they may not be needed.

I honestly don't see what the big deal is. The military has unique needs and is being served with unique solutions. Are you going to call up OCF next and ask why they only market Connect Kits to graduating high school students and college/university students??
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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2011, 07:46:17 PM »
I don't mean to suggest that no Orthodox materials should ever be targeted to specific groups.  I just don't have the first clue why anyone would think those in the military need their own specially produced Bible.  Is it not the same Bible that anyone else has?  Does it have special verses not included in other Bibles?
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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2014, 08:50:50 PM »
It's back in print:

http://store.ancientfaith.com/orthodox-study-bible-new-testament-psalms-paperback/



Now prisoners can have Orthodox Bibles again.   :)

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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2014, 08:56:46 PM »
I don't mean to suggest that no Orthodox materials should ever be targeted to specific groups.  I just don't have the first clue why anyone would think those in the military need their own specially produced Bible.  Is it not the same Bible that anyone else has?  Does it have special verses not included in other Bibles?

The Orthodox Military New Testament also includes devotional morning and evening prayers, a page to list the living and the dead for prayer, 8 full-color icon plates, and a devotional piece on the ten commandments and integrity in military service.

...but its also a 'packable' size...since most deployed folks don't have 3 suitcases and a carry on....basically enabling them to carry -one- small book and 'survive' as an Orthodox Christian in what are some fairly unfriendly places.

And it is being given -free- to military folks.  You however can buy it for 5 bucks...;)

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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2014, 11:45:10 PM »
I don't mean to suggest that no Orthodox materials should ever be targeted to specific groups.  I just don't have the first clue why anyone would think those in the military need their own specially produced Bible.  Is it not the same Bible that anyone else has?  Does it have special verses not included in other Bibles?

The Orthodox Military New Testament also includes devotional morning and evening prayers, a page to list the living and the dead for prayer, 8 full-color icon plates, and a devotional piece on the ten commandments and integrity in military service.

...but its also a 'packable' size...since most deployed folks don't have 3 suitcases and a carry on....basically enabling them to carry -one- small book and 'survive' as an Orthodox Christian in what are some fairly unfriendly places.

And it is being given -free- to military folks.  You however can buy it for 5 bucks...;)

Is there a link to buy the Orthodox Military NT? Does it contain the Psalms too?
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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2014, 11:48:18 PM »
I don't mean to suggest that no Orthodox materials should ever be targeted to specific groups.  I just don't have the first clue why anyone would think those in the military need their own specially produced Bible.  Is it not the same Bible that anyone else has?  Does it have special verses not included in other Bibles?

The Orthodox Military New Testament also includes devotional morning and evening prayers, a page to list the living and the dead for prayer, 8 full-color icon plates, and a devotional piece on the ten commandments and integrity in military service.

...but its also a 'packable' size...since most deployed folks don't have 3 suitcases and a carry on....basically enabling them to carry -one- small book and 'survive' as an Orthodox Christian in what are some fairly unfriendly places.

And it is being given -free- to military folks.  You however can buy it for 5 bucks...;)

Is there a link to buy the Orthodox Military NT? Does it contain the Psalms too?

There was a link further up in the thread...but they have come out with  revised version and yes....it has the psalms too


http://www.orthodoxmarketplace.com/bibles/english-rsv-/military-orthodox-new-testament-and-psalms-leadership-100-rsv.html

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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2014, 12:19:05 AM »
And they have a New Testament and Psalms for "Orthodox Youth."

http://www.orthodoxmarketplace.com/bibles/orthodox-youth-new-testament-and-psalms-rsv.html

I don't get that.  Does that mean old ladies like me can't use it?   :D

Seriously, though.  I wonder if it is the Military NT with a different cover.  That would be great, but why market it only to "Youth?"  I understand wanting to get the youth into reading the Gospels, but it makes the rest of us feel left out.   :)

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« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2014, 01:04:35 AM »
And they have a New Testament and Psalms for "Orthodox Youth."

http://www.orthodoxmarketplace.com/bibles/orthodox-youth-new-testament-and-psalms-rsv.html

I don't get that.  Does that mean old ladies like me can't use it?   :D

Seriously, though.  I wonder if it is the Military NT with a different cover.  That would be great, but why market it only to "Youth?"  I understand wanting to get the youth into reading the Gospels, but it makes the rest of us feel left out.   :)

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Re: Paperback Orthodox Bible
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2014, 10:31:49 PM »
http://oca.org/news/headline-news/ancient-faith-ministries-ocpm-partner-to-reprint-orthodox-study-bible-nt-an


Ancient Faith Publishing, in partnership with Orthodox Christian Prison Ministry (OCPM), is pleased to bring back the paperback edition of the Orthodox Study Bible New Testament and Psalms.

This Bible, which has been out of print for two years, is in high demand among those who prefer a more affordable Orthodox Study Bible and those who serve America’s prison population because the majority of state and federal prisons will not allow inmates to have hardback books/Bibles.