Welcome to the forum!
Hi, and welcome as well.
I'm not sure that the situation between the EO and OO would resolve down to the absorption of the OO.
Yes, after thinking about it more, I must concur.
There are no historic EO jursidictions in Armenia, Ethiopia, Eritrea or India, so if there were a reconciliation these would continue to be the major jurisdictions in those areas.
Good point. So I guess communion with the OO would be just that, communion. We would fully recognize each other as members of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Faith. However, I think one of the problems in EO (and maybe others as well?) is that we tend to consist of "national churches," which seems unnatural to the spirit of Christianity and the Early Church. I'm a little tired of EO bragging about how none of the churches can "meddle" in the affairs of another church. Umm...what exactly was St. Paul doing, then? or St. Ignatius of Antioch? Seems to me like the EO have modeled their church after the empire (e.g. territory being divided into jurisdictions, etc.).
In Egypt the Greek Church is tiny and the overwhelming majority of faithful are Coptic Orthdoox rather than Greek Orthodox.
It is only really in Syria/Antioch that there is something of an overlap but the Syrian/Antiochean churches in the Middle East seem quite far advanced in how they would handle a reconciliation and it looks like there would be a controlled merging of thr jurisdictions.
Of course the OO have preserved the original and historic diversity of rites which was abolished in the 14th century (?) by the Byzantines, and had been abolished even earlier under Charlemagne in the West.
Yes, I never quite understood why to be Orthodox we gotta use the exact liturgy we do.
This diversity of rite with a unity of faith seems to me to be an important contribution of OOxy and is a practical manifestation of how it would be possible for reconciliation to include both EO and RC, if doctrinal issues were resolved, without requiring the abandonment of that witness to the universaility of Orthodoxy which a diversity of rites and customs shows.
I very much like your "Four Points".
thanks. Just seems natural to me, I guess.
Perhaps the true practice of these would help solve a lot of ecclesiastical [and other] problems...
Of course, one can only do so for one single person ... one's own self!
Still, St. Seraphim of Sarov said, "acquire the Holy Spirit, and a thousand about you will be saved"!
Good observations. I have heard that quote by St. Seraphim of Sarov many times before, and always wondered what context he spoke it in? I've never read his works so I don't know. I certainly don't think all of us should do missionary work, but we must, absolutely must, be a good Christian witness.
I also agree with your assessment of the relative closeness / common ground / whatever-you want to call it between the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox as against the differences of doctrine, mindset, over 1,000 years of "doctrinal development" in the Western Churches, beginning (and continuing...) with the Roman Catholic Church.
Shouldn't we be seeking understanding first with those who worship, pray, understand the Church and the Scriptures somewhat like we do, rather than with those who are obviously of "another faith"?
My sentiments exactly. The RCC are the big guys in town (in large part b/c they did number 4 above). Unity is also very important. but let's first work on A) healing wounds between the various "national" Orthodox Churches so that we really are 1 Church in many places and B) admit fault and ask for forgiveness for past wrongdoings of our Church, and pray that our Coptic brothers and sisters will not only grant us forgiveness, but embrace us.
Keep on postin'!
P.S. - cool llama.
hehe, that's the default image. But yeah, it is pretty cool.