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"(RNS) Religious and human rights activists are asking U.S. churches to invite Jewish and Muslim clergy to their sanctuaries to read from sacred texts next month in an initiative designed to counter anti-Muslim bigotry. The June 26 initiative, called "Faith Shared: Uniting in Prayer and Understanding," is co-sponsored by the Interfaith Alliance and Human Rights First. Leaders of the two Washington-based groups said the event hopes to demonstrate respect for Islam in the wake of Quran burnings in recent months." I'm sure there are other ways to show respect for Islam.  |
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Extra caritatem nulla salus.
In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
I'm not a witch.
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"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
Y dduw bo'r diolch.
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2011, 06:43:43 PM » |
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Wow...wow.
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2011, 06:48:46 PM » |
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Are Muslims being asked to share their mosques with Christians? Probably not. It's always the Muslims who are the victims. Sigh.
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2011, 06:53:55 PM » |
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And any day now, Muslims will return the favor by giving back the Agia Sophia!...
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2011, 07:31:21 PM » |
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If only Charlton Heston were still around to deliver a "from my cold, dead hands" speech...
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2011, 07:51:41 PM » |
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Wanna see my impersonation of Charlton Heston?
"I'll let you worship in my church over my cold, dead body."
Pretty good, huh?
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2011, 08:05:49 PM » |
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Wanna see my impersonation of Charlton Heston?
"I'll let you worship in my church over my cold, dead body."
Pretty good, huh?
And upon discovering the attempted Hagia Sophia mosquification:
YOU PUT MINARETS UP! YOU PUT THEM ALL UP!
DAMN YOU!
DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL! |
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2011, 08:06:35 PM » |
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"(RNS) Religious and human rights activists are asking U.S. churches to invite Jewish and Muslim clergy to their sanctuaries to read from sacred texts next month in an initiative designed to counter anti-Muslim bigotry. The June 26 initiative, called "Faith Shared: Uniting in Prayer and Understanding," is co-sponsored by the Interfaith Alliance and Human Rights First. Leaders of the two Washington-based groups said the event hopes to demonstrate respect for Islam in the wake of Quran burnings in recent months." I'm sure there are other ways to show respect for Islam. In the name of human and religious rights? "Faith Shared"?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv3M-XotQkQ |
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2011, 08:11:11 PM » |
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Wanna see my impersonation of Charlton Heston?
"I'll let you worship in my church over my cold, dead body."
Pretty good, huh?
And upon discovering the attempted Hagia Sophia mosquification:
YOU PUT MINARETS UP! YOU PUT THEM ALL UP!
DAMN YOU!
DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!Brilliant! |
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2011, 08:28:14 PM » |
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Wanna see my impersonation of Charlton Heston?
"I'll let you worship in my church over my cold, dead body."
Pretty good, huh?
And upon discovering the attempted Hagia Sophia mosquification:
YOU PUT MINARETS UP! YOU PUT THEM ALL UP!
DAMN YOU!
DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!Brilliant! Loved "The Planet of the Apes".  |
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The unworthy hierodeacon, Vasyl
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2011, 08:35:35 PM » |
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I think we will be passing out awards, soon! These performances most definitely deserve an Academy Award!
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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2011, 09:15:44 PM » |
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Why can they not simply ask that churches invite Muslim and Jewish clerics AFTER services and have them talk about their faith? Why do they need to be in the SANCTUARY? If you really do believe your religion is true (and Judaism inherently denies Jesus even as a Prophet, Islam denies him as God but calls him a Prophet, and Christianity accepts him as God, therefore on that point alone they are prevented from all being equally true), then why would you invite another religion's clergy into your sanctified place?
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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2011, 11:23:40 PM » |
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Many US "churches" do not have that great of a conception of the worship house being a particularly sacred space.
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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2011, 11:03:18 AM » |
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Why can they not simply ask that churches invite Muslim and Jewish clerics AFTER services and have them talk about their faith? Why do they need to be in the SANCTUARY? If you really do believe your religion is true (and Judaism inherently denies Jesus even as a Prophet, Islam denies him as God but calls him a Prophet, and Christianity accepts him as God, therefore on that point alone they are prevented from all being equally true), then why would you invite another religion's clergy into your sanctified place?
Most of them don't even have the conception of anything being holy at all any more. Or true, for that matter, which is the root behind this all. Our society nearly worships uncritical equality, regarding everything as equal regardless of whether it is true or not, so people believe everything has to be given "equal time" in all milieus and other ridiculous things. I'm meeting a increasingly number of people who think to hold concrete beliefs, ex. that something is true, is biased and bad. The World is bullying people into making no distinction between wheat and chaff... And this is really another example of that. |
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If you give up pride of place for yourself to God, you will find your soul and eternity.. if you insist on putting yourself before God you will loose yourself eternally.
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2011, 11:06:38 AM » |
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How will Jewish clerics reading from their "sacred texts" (which Christians also consider sacred) counter anti-Muslim bigotry?
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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2011, 03:19:47 PM » |
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And, once again, we ignore the Christians that are murdered near-daily in Muslim countries!
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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2011, 03:52:50 PM » |
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How will Jewish clerics reading from their "sacred texts" (which Christians also consider sacred) counter anti-Muslim bigotry?
Perhaps they will read from the Talmud, and then everyone will stop discriminating against and hating Muslims because they will be too busy being angry at the Jews? |
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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2011, 04:02:28 PM » |
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How will Jewish clerics reading from their "sacred texts" (which Christians also consider sacred) counter anti-Muslim bigotry?
Perhaps they will read from the Talmud, and then everyone will stop discriminating against and hating Muslims because they will be too busy being angry at the Jews? See, there's no bigotry to counter. |
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If people cry at weddings...why don't they laugh at funerals?
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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2011, 04:29:13 PM » |
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I think we should start out sharing puppets. If we can share puppets successfully, we might be able to move to pulpits, but not before. Of course, not many Orthodox churches have pulpits anymore.
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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2011, 05:12:38 PM » |
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How will Jewish clerics reading from their "sacred texts" (which Christians also consider sacred) counter anti-Muslim bigotry?
Perhaps they will read from the Talmud, and then everyone will stop discriminating against and hating Muslims because they will be too busy being angry at the Jews? See, there's no bigotry to counter. I didn't mean anything against the Jewish people, and am not a bigot - as anyone who knows me will say. However, you must admit that some passages of the Talmud are not exactly...Christian friendly |
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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2011, 10:33:20 PM » |
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Unfortunately my Church will probably go along with this.
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Men may dislike truth, men may find truth offensive and inconvenient, men may persecute the truth, subvert it, try by law to suppress it. But to maintain that men have the final power over truth is blasphemy, and the last delusion. Truth lives forever, men do not.
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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2011, 10:40:06 PM » |
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God forbid a Muslim preach that Christ is not God in any house designed to accomodate those who believe just that.
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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2011, 10:41:07 PM » |
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Ask if we could do that in their temples and mosques. They would flip.
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"Let the mouth also fast from disgraceful speeches and railings. For what does it profit if we abstain from fish and fowl and yet bite and devour our brothers and sisters? The evil speaker eats the flesh of his brother and bites the body of his neighbor. "
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« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2011, 05:02:30 AM » |
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« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2011, 08:22:12 AM » |
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Guys, guys, you are missing a great opportunity here! Even to read the Epistle in the Orthodox Church, one has to be baptised and tonsured a reader, and ordained a deacon to read the Gospel, so I say "Yes! Please come and read the Scriptures in our Liturgy!"
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« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2011, 09:28:10 AM » |
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I know a secret about a former Supreme Court Justice. Can you guess what it is?
The greatest tragedy in the world is when a cigarette ends.
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« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2011, 11:37:38 AM » |
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Guys, guys, you are missing a great opportunity here! Even to read the Epistle in the Orthodox Church, one has to be baptised and tonsured a reader, and ordained a deacon to read the Gospel, so I say "Yes! Please come and read the Scriptures in our Liturgy!"
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It is an education process for me as I learn about the psychology of spiritual apostasy. And others get the benefit of perhaps hearing righteousness for the first time.
Blessed are the Peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God.
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