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« on: May 20, 2011, 11:07:46 PM »

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Their are multiple verses in the Old Testament (Ezra and Isaiah) in praise of Cyrus the Great of Persia who was a liberator of the Jews in Babylon. Isaiah refers to him as God's anointed "whose right hand I take hold of to subdue nations before him" (Isaiah 45:1). Now, since we venerate the Prophets of the Old Testament, would it be permissible for Orthodox Christians to venerate Cyrus the Great? Has such a veneration ever took place within the history of the Church? For instance maybe among Christians in Persia?

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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2011, 11:37:18 PM »

Not sure since he was not aware that the LORD was using him to accomplish some great things.
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2011, 11:53:17 PM »

I don't think so either, Andrew. God used pharaohs too, but we wouldn't want to venerate them. Or Nebuchadnezzar, or Pontius Pilate (unless the EOTC's texts about him are true)...

Plus, realistically, any movement to venerate Cyrus would inevitably adopt some aspects of the long-standing Persian pagan veneration/worship of him.
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2011, 12:51:04 AM »

I've wondered about that, too. Did Cyrus ever become Jewish?
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2011, 04:42:51 AM »

I don't think so either, Andrew. God used pharaohs too, but we wouldn't want to venerate them. Or Nebuchadnezzar, or Pontius Pilate (unless the EOTC's texts about him are true)...

True. But the language used to talk about Cyrus is different from that used to describe pharaohs, Nebuchadnezzar, or Pilate. Non of them are referred to as God's "anointed." The way he is spoken of is different than how the Old Testament refers to other kings. He indeed was a messianic figure for many of the Jews in exile.

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Plus, realistically, any movement to venerate Cyrus would inevitably adopt some aspects of the long-standing Persian pagan veneration/worship of him.

That is a good point.
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2011, 04:47:20 AM »

I've wondered about that, too. Did Cyrus ever become Jewish?

No, he didn't. He was a Zoroastrian, as were his decedents.
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2011, 09:46:56 AM »

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