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« on: May 15, 2011, 09:43:25 PM »
This guy makes some points that James and Jude did not accept the divinity of Christ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvcizFKWNfc&feature=related
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2011, 09:46:25 PM »
I would think Mary and Joseph did.
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2011, 01:41:50 AM »
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2011, 02:17:11 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2011, 03:31:30 AM »
Quote from: neon_knights on May 15, 2011, 09:43:25 PM
This guy makes some points that James and Jude did not accept the divinity of Christ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvcizFKWNfc&feature=related

Have this given to me all the time, it assumes that in the absense of references to the divinity of Christ in certain books, we are therefore to conclude he was not God. But I think that is a bit misleading, considering the Didache makes us of the Triune baptismal Formula of the father son and spirit which would be odd if the Son was not God. Why be baptised in his name? A silly argument from someone who didn't think it out.
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2011, 04:38:25 AM »
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Quote from: biro on May 15, 2011, 09:46:25 PM
I would think Mary and Joseph did.
St. James the Brother of God was martyred for confessing it.
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2011, 11:22:35 AM »
Wait....

James & Jude I believe were depicted as "brothers" as in fellow Christians are "Brothers and Sisters".

But not ACTUAL "brothers" or "half brothers".

Otherwise I think that would negate the term "Bride ever Virgin".  I mean obviously the Theotokos, the mother of God, would not be a virgin right now if she had other children.    Also if we would consider Jude & James to have the same blood as Jesus, that can open up a huge can of worms of possible heretical thought.
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2011, 11:34:21 AM »
Quote from: yeshuaisiam on May 16, 2011, 11:22:35 AM
Wait....

James & Jude I believe were depicted as "brothers" as in fellow Christians are "Brothers and Sisters".

But not ACTUAL "brothers" or "half brothers".

Otherwise I think that would negate the term "Bride ever Virgin".  I mean obviously the Theotokos, the mother of God, would not be a virgin right now if she had other children.    Also if we would consider Jude & James to have the same blood as Jesus, that can open up a huge can of worms of possible heretical thought.


James and Jude are the children of Joseph, who was a widower when he was betrothed to the Blessed Mother.  In the eyes of the Law and of those who knew them, James, Jude and the rest of Joseph's children were the siblings of our Lord and, therefore, are named, as such.
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2011, 03:40:57 PM »
Quote from: ialmisry on May 16, 2011, 04:38:25 AM
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Quote from: biro on May 15, 2011, 09:46:25 PM
I would think Mary and Joseph did.
St. James the Brother of God was martyred for confessing it.

Yep, and there lies the hole in his theory. He never mentions the thousands that were martyred for testifying the Resurrection. It is an interesting thought though...
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