Before Holy Spirit would be sent to Earth on Pentecost there was no Christian Church? Why? Because Christian food means making people Children of God that is to baptize people and to give them food for eternal life.
Both the transformation of bread and wine and the baptism is done by God, by Holy Spirit.
In orthodox Christianity a priest is a man that received the ordination from Bishop the Apostle in our times. As seen by many people with soul vision even today the Eastern Orthodox Priests have fire on their head like the Apostles had on Pentecost. See the fire on Apostles Head in this icon? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e3/Icon-Pentecost.jpg
This fire is Holy Spirit received at oprdination that appears like fire. So having Holy Spirit the priest can perform baptism and Holy Eucharist.
So basically the concern is that the pastors in Protestantism not receiving ordination, not receiving the Holy Spirit through ordination, what would happen with baptism and other things they do? How valid are they? I hope they are but there are some quetions we need to ask.
Today I believe I know more.I know that I should look for eternal life and entrance to heaven that Jesus brought:
Word of God has said for everybody:
JN 6:53 Jesus therefore said to them, "Most certainly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you don't have life in yourselves.
Who said the above verse? Did you find the words 'Most certainly'? What do they mean? Can you please find for me word symbol in the verse above ? How about 'words'. Can you eat words? When was the last time you did that? How about finding the word 'nothing' above? This is about eternal life. Last time when Eve missed the boat, there were some consequences. Would the words let the dead bury their dead reffer to people not having Holy Communion?
JN 3:5 Jesus answered, "Most certainly I tell you, unless one is born of water and spirit, he can't enter into the Kingdom of God!
Who said the above verse? Did you find the words 'Most certainly'? What do they mean? Do you find above 'praying 5 times a day' , words? How about not eating pork? How about meditation 3 times a day for 20 min?
Baptism means being born of water and spirit and it is found in Christianity. So on this Earth you may need to be baptized to exchange this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv-VlJnDvuw
. with this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxU3LDDMeaM
I do not understand what the 2 phrases and these are not from an orthodox Bible but they can say this. To get immortal you need to partake food for eternal life. To get to Heaven http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxU3LDDMeaM
you need to be baptized otherwise the destination can be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv-VlJnDvuw
Regarding food for eternal life these are the possibilities:
-Eastern Orthodox Church , EOC like the Church of Greece, Romania, Russia and the Four ancient Patriarchates . All the Churches in the Bible are today in EOC but the Church of Rome. Like a mother, this Church gives yourself both food for eternal life and baptism for entrance to Heaven
-Roman Catholic Church. It is so very close of EOC. However, while sometime priest commune like in Ancient Church with both wine and bread, parishioners may get only bread and even that bread is not the bread used in Early Church for 1000 years , it is changed to the Bread of Old Law, unleavened bread. If bread would be enough and I hope for the sake off Roman Catholics that it is , would Jesus not know that bread is enough? Why would be this a mystery for Early Church for 1000 years as historical documents show since Early Church communed both with wine and bread and Jesus gave Apostles wine and bread not only bread? I don't believe that Jesus would not know that flesh contains blood? If bread would be enough ,why would Apostles would give both to people and Church would give both to people for 1000 years? Also the spirit of Einstein, of invention has entered the realm of obtaining food for eternal life, sometime changing bread type, or sometime taking out prayer like the invocation of God to obtain food for eternal life. So I don't know. You want to be sure, EOC . May God help people of Roman Catholicism come back to orthodoxy.
-In my understanding protestantism may have told to food for eternal life bye bye in many ways replacing it with symbols, words or nothing and the spirit of invention , of human teachings has become unimaginable. If words would have been enough, would Jesus not know that words were enough? Why would he say what he said above? How about Apostles. If so, why would Apostles write in year 60 Holy Liturgy centered on food for eternal life? Why would have the Early Church from beginning for 1500+ years Holy Liturgies? If you want for Protestantism to decide for you that you don't need food for eternal life, it is your call. May God help Protestantism come back to orthodoxy.
-In my understanding other religions might have already decided for yourself that this is where you want to go after death http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv-VlJnDvuw
instead of here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxU3LDDMeaM&feature=related
and that you might not need food for eternal life.