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Offline Raylight

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Why do people lose faith when....?
« on: November 17, 2014, 08:17:56 PM »
Through my journey with faith, I've read about people who lost their faith when something bad happened to them. They lost beloved one, when they lost job, failed in making their goals a reality. Some of them might be angry at God!!

What might be the reason for that ?
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Re: Why do people lose faith when....?
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2014, 09:08:15 PM »
I think it comes from a deep issue that many believe that "god let this happen" or "god caused this to happen" or "god didn't stop this from happening".

The issue I take with this is that we have no idea how God really works in this manner.   Are we puppets on his strings with a little free will?  Do we have FULL free will (and no-interference?)

We really don't know.  Of course he interfered with the exodus.  Interfered with his son in the flesh.  (using interfered in a non-disrespectful way).

Does he interfere when you dog is hit by a car or a relative dies of cancer?

Is it right to test his will?

These are confusing things....

There is one thing I can tell you though.   NONE of us here are getting out of this life in a fleshy bodies.  We are all going to die one way or another.  The trick is to live again and not face the 2nd death.
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Re: Why do people lose faith when....?
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2014, 09:43:25 PM »
Well, do not most (or nearly all) Christians believe that God directly causes or at least allows everything that happens? If someone believes that someone "up there" has their back, and then all of a sudden a bunch of really bad stuff happens, is it not natural to feel a little betrayed? Now I know that some bad stuff actually helps us grow, as individuals, to become more charitable, to rely on God more, and so forth. But some bad stuff seems to serve no decent purpose whatsoever: child rape, sex slavery, flesh-eating disease, epidermolysis bullosa, starvation, cancer, and so on. Some bad stuff is bad enough to destroy one's faith.

Most people I know who are "spiritual" or religious, and who have not yet had any seriously traumatic events befall them, seem (sometimes naively, it appears to me) to think that God, or the Universe, is blessing them, giving them good gifts and guidance, and favoring them. Many of these same people begin to change their tune when they get a chronic and/or debilitating disease, when they watch a loved one or two die a slow and agonizing death, or something equally terrible. Since we know that bad stuff can happen to us at any time, I would think that having a belief that God is protecting you is potentially setting oneself up for a huge disappointment... potentially a loss of faith altogether.

The problem of suffering is, in my opinion, the greatest challenge to belief in a loving, powerful, and intervening God.
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Re: Why do people lose faith when....?
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2014, 09:51:09 PM »
This is an important issue that can be seen from a different perspective.

There have been times in my life when things happen to me, that I cannot control, that end up many years later having changed me in a good way, and I give that credit to God.

Because through those bad things, I learned things that I never would have, I was humbled at a young age through no fault of my own, but it made me wiser and strengthened my faith.

This is the key, your choice is only if you are going to get bitter and lose faith, or keep above that trap and gain faith, love,and understanding.

That was the test that was given Job.
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Re: Why do people lose faith when....?
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2014, 10:23:07 PM »
This is an important issue that can be seen from a different perspective.

There have been times in my life when things happen to me, that I cannot control, that end up many years later having changed me in a good way, and I give that credit to God.

Because through those bad things, I learned things that I never would have, I was humbled at a young age through no fault of my own, but it made me wiser and strengthened my faith.

This is the key, your choice is only if you are going to get bitter and lose faith, or keep above that trap and gain faith, love,and understanding.

That was the test that was given Job.

Excellent response!

There are some things we'll never understand either.... All I can say is I pray that God is done testing me with things, and that if he does need to test me, that it will be immensely easier than Job's.   :o  I just may fail those too.
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Re: Why do people lose faith when....?
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2014, 11:03:37 PM »
Sorry for being so negative. I'm going through a bit of a rough patch right now, and the issue of suffering has been challenging my faith for quite a long time.
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Re: Why do people lose faith when....?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2014, 01:47:05 AM »
Sorry for being so negative. I'm going through a bit of a rough patch right now, and the issue of suffering has been challenging my faith for quite a long time.


I can relate to you. I myself had very bad crisis of faith, I still have very very little bit of it but I understand that feeling of anger, confusion , and not knowing what to believe or what is true. That is one heck of a bad bad situation.  I hope you will find the way to get out of that. Also know that there are millions of people right now who are facing the same thing you face.


I will continue to label myself Christian, and Anglican, in respect for my baptism. Even though I still struggle with doubts. I don't believe it is fair to dismiss it that easily because of some doubt.

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Re: Why do people lose faith when....?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2014, 08:59:21 AM »
Sorry for being so negative. I'm going through a bit of a rough patch right now, and the issue of suffering has been challenging my faith for quite a long time.

Lord have mercy.

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Re: Why do people lose faith when....?
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2014, 09:40:43 AM »
This may have nothing to do with the OP however I will rant anyway.
About a dozen years ago a madman rampaged and killed several Amish school children. I cannot even imagine a worse thing than a parent burying their child.
Within the week their community, including the bereaved parents, brought food, forgiveness and some comfort to the family of the madman.
For me it showed that only God can do that.
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Re: Why do people lose faith when....?
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2014, 11:05:49 AM »
This may have nothing to do with the OP however I will rant anyway.
About a dozen years ago a madman rampaged and killed several Amish school children. I cannot even imagine a worse thing than a parent burying their child.
Within the week their community, including the bereaved parents, brought food, forgiveness and some comfort to the family of the madman.
For me it showed that only God can do that.
That happened very close to where I live. What a horrific tragedy it was.  Lord have mercy and may those childrens memories be eternal.  :'(
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