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« Reply #135 on: May 11, 2011, 05:47:37 PM »

Im pretty sure if the Pope of Rome "falls into heresy" most Roman Catholics would follow irregardless. I know most of the RC that I know would!
Hmmm. You must think we are quite stupid.

No, it's just that I grew up Roman Catholic, so I kind of know you're side of the world.  Cool

I was born and raised a Catholic.
I also studied at two Catholic universities, and was a Dominican Tertiary.
And yes, if the Vatican can find a way to dispatch of a rogue Pope, they will.
Most likely, he will be asked to resign.

I guess it depends on how far he goes. There has to be a line somewhere, but it seems the RCC has gotten so liberal, I dont know how far left that line is.
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« Reply #136 on: May 11, 2011, 05:50:10 PM »


I guess if youre young you must be ignorant, eh?  Cool

Not always
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« Reply #137 on: May 11, 2011, 05:53:08 PM »

Im pretty sure if the Pope of Rome "falls into heresy" most Roman Catholics would follow irregardless. I know most of the RC that I know would!
A. Irregardless isn't a word. B. No we wouldn't because he wouldn't.

A. Irregardless - an informal term commonly used in place of regardless or irrespective. Hm, Ive never met anyone who's never heard of that word, maybe you just live under a rock.

He didn't said he had never heard of it, but that it isn't a real word.

Actually, I was speaking with a conservative Latin Catholic priest just about 10 days ago, and he said "irregardless". (That's not really relevant, I just thought it was an interesting coincidence.)
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« Reply #138 on: May 11, 2011, 05:55:24 PM »

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« Reply #139 on: May 11, 2011, 05:56:58 PM »

Im pretty sure if the Pope of Rome "falls into heresy" most Roman Catholics would follow irregardless. I know most of the RC that I know would!
A. Irregardless isn't a word. B. No we wouldn't because he wouldn't.

A. Irregardless - an informal term commonly used in place of regardless or irrespective. Hm, Ive never met anyone who's never heard of that word, maybe you just live under a rock.

He didn't said he had never heard of it, but that it isn't a real word.

Actually, I was speaking with a conservative Latin Catholic priest just about 10 days ago, and he said "irregardless". (That's not really relevant, I just thought it was an interesting coincidence.)


Neither is Fair Dinkum, Bizzo, Jumbuck,or G'Day, but does it make me an idiot for saying them?
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« Reply #140 on: May 11, 2011, 05:57:49 PM »


I guess if youre young you must be ignorant, eh?  Cool

Not always

Only ones who disagree with you?
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« Reply #141 on: May 11, 2011, 06:00:36 PM »

Im pretty sure if the Pope of Rome "falls into heresy" most Roman Catholics would follow irregardless. I know most of the RC that I know would!
Hmmm. You must think we are quite stupid.

No, it's just that I grew up Roman Catholic, so I kind of know you're side of the world.  Cool

Well I'm still on that side of the world and your view looks pretty skewed to me...

Also you look pretty young so did you grow up in parishes with 80 families or 500 or more families. 

Makes a difference in how we get to "see" each other.

Buddy, I grew up in one of the most highly Catholic parts of America. I used to be a HARDCORE Catholic,

Good for you. Sounds like you were a bit too HARDCORE, though...
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« Reply #142 on: May 11, 2011, 06:01:03 PM »


I guess if youre young you must be ignorant, eh?  Cool

Not always

Only ones who disagree with you?

Not always.
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« Reply #143 on: May 11, 2011, 06:02:13 PM »

Im pretty sure if the Pope of Rome "falls into heresy" most Roman Catholics would follow irregardless. I know most of the RC that I know would!
Hmmm. You must think we are quite stupid.

No, it's just that I grew up Roman Catholic, so I kind of know you're side of the world.  Cool

Well I'm still on that side of the world and your view looks pretty skewed to me...

Also you look pretty young so did you grow up in parishes with 80 families or 500 or more families. 

Makes a difference in how we get to "see" each other.

Buddy, I grew up in one of the most highly Catholic parts of America. I used to be a HARDCORE Catholic,

Good for you. Sounds like you were a bit too HARDCORE, though...

LOL, how so? I wouldnt say hardcore as in too far, I guess I meant devoted to my faith.
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« Reply #144 on: May 11, 2011, 06:02:48 PM »


Just me?
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« Reply #145 on: May 11, 2011, 06:04:03 PM »

A. Irregardless - an informal term commonly used in place of regardless or irrespective. Hm, Ive never met anyone who's never heard of that word, maybe you just live under a rock.
Oh I've heard it, it's just incorrect English. Say "regardless."

B. From your point of view I guess he wouldnt. Let me just say that most RC that I deal with dont even properly believe/follow their faith, so they would follow a "heretical" Pope.
All that proves is that you know a lot of people who aren't very good Catholics. Congratulations. I'm sure there are Eastern Orthodox Christians out there that don't follow their faith very well too.
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« Reply #146 on: May 11, 2011, 06:06:11 PM »

A. Irregardless - an informal term commonly used in place of regardless or irrespective. Hm, Ive never met anyone who's never heard of that word, maybe you just live under a rock.
Oh I've heard it, it's just incorrect English. Say "regardless."

B. From your point of view I guess he wouldnt. Let me just say that most RC that I deal with dont even properly believe/follow their faith, so they would follow a "heretical" Pope.
All that proves is that you know a lot of people who aren't very good Catholics. Congratulations. I'm sure there are Eastern Orthodox Christians out there that don't follow their faith very well too.

Neither is Fair Dinkum, Bizzo, Jumbuck,or G'Day, but does it make me an idiot for saying them?

But Im pretty sure there are more RC who dont follow their dogmatic beliefs, atleast from what Ive seen and read. For the record, I live in a highly RC part of the US, so it isnt like I dont know many. My entire family is RC.
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« Reply #147 on: May 11, 2011, 06:07:00 PM »


Not really.  

Look at this sidebar on ignorance:  You started it:  I am trying to tell you I am not playing it with you.
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« Reply #148 on: May 11, 2011, 06:08:28 PM »

Im pretty sure if the Pope of Rome "falls into heresy" most Roman Catholics would follow irregardless. I know most of the RC that I know would!
A. Irregardless isn't a word. B. No we wouldn't because he wouldn't.

A. Irregardless - an informal term commonly used in place of regardless or irrespective. Hm, Ive never met anyone who's never heard of that word, maybe you just live under a rock.

He didn't said he had never heard of it, but that it isn't a real word.

Actually, I was speaking with a conservative Latin Catholic priest just about 10 days ago, and he said "irregardless". (That's not really relevant, I just thought it was an interesting coincidence.)


Neither is Fair Dinkum, Bizzo, Jumbuck,or G'Day, but does it make me an idiot for saying them?

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Im pretty sure if the Pope of Rome "falls into heresy" most Roman Catholics would follow irregardless. I know most of the RC that I know would!
Hmmm. You must think we are quite stupid.

Well, I guess in the way that Catholics are stupid to the SSPV. (That made sense, right?)

Yes.  Or the way in that I am stupid in your own eyes.  

Papist and elijahmaria,

At the risk of sounding cliche, I think you both need to get over yourselves a little bit. Someone disagreeing with you doesn't mean they consider you to be stupid.
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« Reply #149 on: May 11, 2011, 06:11:21 PM »

Neither is Fair Dinkum, Bizzo, Jumbuck,or G'Day, but does it make me an idiot for saying them?
No...at the most it would only make you sound like one if you say these things outside of Australian borders since they are not familiar slang terms internationally.

But Im pretty sure there are more RC who dont follow their dogmatic beliefs, atleast from what Ive seen and read. For the record, I live in a highly RC part of the US, so it isnt like I dont know many. My entire family is RC.
Unfortunately there are many cultural Catholics and many cradle Catholics that are under the impression that they can just pick and choose which teachings they want to follow. Unfortunately this is untrue. We, as a Church, need to step up our catechesis efforts so that lifelong Catholics quit growing up with this notion.
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« Reply #150 on: May 11, 2011, 06:11:48 PM »


Not really. 

Look at this sidebar on ignorance:  You started it:  I am trying to tell you I am not playing it with you.

Mate, I didnt start crap. You're getting pissy over nothing. No need to get angry over a forum. Tongue
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« Reply #151 on: May 11, 2011, 06:13:06 PM »

Im pretty sure if the Pope of Rome "falls into heresy" most Roman Catholics would follow irregardless. I know most of the RC that I know would!
Hmmm. You must think we are quite stupid.

No, it's just that I grew up Roman Catholic, so I kind of know you're side of the world.  Cool

Well I'm still on that side of the world and your view looks pretty skewed to me...

Also you look pretty young so did you grow up in parishes with 80 families or 500 or more families. 

Makes a difference in how we get to "see" each other.

Buddy, I grew up in one of the most highly Catholic parts of America. I used to be a HARDCORE Catholic,

Good for you. Sounds like you were a bit too HARDCORE, though...

LOL, how so? I wouldnt say hardcore as in too far, I guess I meant devoted to my faith.

lubeltri, I have to admit that I too am curious why you think he was too hardcore.
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« Reply #152 on: May 11, 2011, 06:14:17 PM »

Neither is Fair Dinkum, Bizzo, Jumbuck,or G'Day, but does it make me an idiot for saying them?
No...at the most it would only make you sound like one if you say these things outside of Australian borders since they are not familiar slang terms internationally.

But Im pretty sure there are more RC who dont follow their dogmatic beliefs, atleast from what Ive seen and read. For the record, I live in a highly RC part of the US, so it isnt like I dont know many. My entire family is RC.
Unfortunately there are many cultural Catholics and many cradle Catholics that are under the impression that they can just pick and choose which teachings they want to follow. Unfortunately this is untrue. We, as a Church, need to step up our catechesis efforts so that lifelong Catholics quit growing up with this notion.

Kay, mate. What words should I use? Hillbilly slang?
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« Reply #153 on: May 11, 2011, 06:21:35 PM »


Not really. 

Look at this sidebar on ignorance:  You started it:  I am trying to tell you I am not playing it with you.

Mate, I didnt start crap. You're getting pissy over nothing. No need to get angry over a forum. Tongue

If my own exchange with elijahmaria a little earlier is anything to go by, it would seem that saying anything to anyone counts as starting something in her eyes.
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« Reply #154 on: May 11, 2011, 06:26:18 PM »


Not really. 

Look at this sidebar on ignorance:  You started it:  I am trying to tell you I am not playing it with you.

Mate, I didnt start crap. You're getting pissy over nothing. No need to get angry over a forum. Tongue

If my own exchange with elijahmaria a little earlier is anything to go by, it would seem that saying anything to anyone counts as starting something in her eyes.

You're right, I guess I just need to ignore her.  Lips Sealed
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« Reply #155 on: May 11, 2011, 06:45:25 PM »


Not really.  

Look at this sidebar on ignorance:  You started it:  I am trying to tell you I am not playing it with you.

Mate, I didnt start crap. You're getting pissy over nothing. No need to get angry over a forum. Tongue

If my own exchange with elijahmaria a little earlier is anything to go by, it would seem that saying anything to anyone counts as starting something in her eyes.

You're right, I guess I just need to ignore her.  Lips Sealed

I can't exactly say that I advocate ignoring, but I know that sometimes its hard to know what else to do.

P.S. On the other hand, ignoring may not be the best policy when someone is throwing around comments like

laugh  Oh I don't think you think I am stupid because you disagree with me.  I think you think I am stupid because I don't fight with you when you come here to bait me for no apparent reason.   laugh
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« Reply #156 on: May 11, 2011, 06:48:05 PM »

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Kay, mate. What words should I use? Hillbilly slang?

Out of the frying pan...  Roll Eyes  Tongue
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« Reply #157 on: May 11, 2011, 06:50:12 PM »


Not really. 

Look at this sidebar on ignorance:  You started it:  I am trying to tell you I am not playing it with you.

Mate, I didnt start crap. You're getting pissy over nothing. No need to get angry over a forum. Tongue

If my own exchange with elijahmaria a little earlier is anything to go by, it would seem that saying anything to anyone counts as starting something in her eyes.

You're right, I guess I just need to ignore her.  Lips Sealed

Ah...good.  Apparently you and Pete are going to get over yourselves  angel
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« Reply #158 on: May 11, 2011, 06:53:55 PM »

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« Reply #159 on: May 11, 2011, 07:02:38 PM »

They will know we are Christians by our love.

Let us know when you are ready to start.  I will know when you stop showing up to complain about me out of the blue.

Christ is Risen!!
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« Reply #160 on: May 11, 2011, 07:07:07 PM »

Christ is risen!
Im pretty sure if the Pope of Rome "falls into heresy" most Roman Catholics would follow irregardless. I know most of the RC that I know would!
A. Irregardless isn't a word. B. No we wouldn't because he wouldn't.
After 1054 he did, and you did.

At the very least in those days they followed him into schism and likely would do the same or beyond today.

You loose track of the fact that the east was seen as the schismatics, not the west.  So they went nowhere according to their own understandings at the time.

When the "true" Orthodox Churches split from the "untrue" Canonical ones...who believes that they are schismatics?  Is the offender schismatic or the one who takes offense?
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« Reply #161 on: May 11, 2011, 07:09:17 PM »

Christus resurrexit!
Im pretty sure if the Pope of Rome "falls into heresy" most Roman Catholics would follow irregardless. I know most of the RC that I know would!

I guess it would depend on what the heresy was.

How about Papal Infaliability?
How about the Immaculate Conception?
How about the Assumption of the Theotokos without her Dying?
How about the filioque?


The third one is not taught by my Church and the other three are not heretical.
You are in communion with those who teach the third one, and it is heretical like the other three.
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« Reply #162 on: May 11, 2011, 07:11:49 PM »

Christus resurrexit!
Im pretty sure if the Pope of Rome "falls into heresy" most Roman Catholics would follow irregardless. I know most of the RC that I know would!

I guess it would depend on what the heresy was.

How about Papal Infaliability?
How about the Immaculate Conception?
How about the Assumption of the Theotokos without her Dying?
How about the filioque?


The third one is not taught by my Church and the other three are not heretical.
You are in communion with those who teach the third one, and it is heretical like the other three.

There are no heresies taught by the papal Church.  Not one.
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« Reply #163 on: May 11, 2011, 07:19:29 PM »

Christus resurrexit!
Im pretty sure if the Pope of Rome "falls into heresy" most Roman Catholics would follow irregardless. I know most of the RC that I know would!

I guess it would depend on what the heresy was.

How about Papal Infaliability?
How about the Immaculate Conception?
How about the Assumption of the Theotokos without her Dying?
How about the filioque?


The third one is not taught by my Church and the other three are not heretical.
You are in communion with those who teach the third one, and it is heretical like the other three.

There are no heresies taught by the papal Church.  Not one.
I see the Vatican has taken to mantras, a Hindu heretical practice.
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« Reply #164 on: May 11, 2011, 07:43:48 PM »

Christus resurrexit!
Im pretty sure if the Pope of Rome "falls into heresy" most Roman Catholics would follow irregardless. I know most of the RC that I know would!

I guess it would depend on what the heresy was.

How about Papal Infaliability?
How about the Immaculate Conception?
How about the Assumption of the Theotokos without her Dying?
How about the filioque?


The third one is not taught by my Church and the other three are not heretical.
You are in communion with those who teach the third one, and it is heretical like the other three.

There are no heresies taught by the papal Church.  Not one.
I see the Vatican has taken to mantras, a Hindu heretical practice.

Lord have mercy!

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« Reply #165 on: May 11, 2011, 07:46:23 PM »

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I see the Vatican has taken to mantras, a Hindu heretical practice.

 Huh

... and you woke up.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #166 on: May 11, 2011, 09:27:35 PM »

Christus resurrexit!
Im pretty sure if the Pope of Rome "falls into heresy" most Roman Catholics would follow irregardless. I know most of the RC that I know would!

I guess it would depend on what the heresy was.

How about Papal Infaliability?
How about the Immaculate Conception?
How about the Assumption of the Theotokos without her Dying?
How about the filioque?


The third one is not taught by my Church and the other three are not heretical.
You are in communion with those who teach the third one, and it is heretical like the other three.

There are no heresies taught by the papal Church.  Not one.
I see the Vatican has taken to mantras, a Hindu heretical practice.

You should either provide evidence for that statement, or indicate that it isn't meant to be taken seriously.
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« Reply #167 on: May 11, 2011, 09:28:27 PM »

They will know we are Christians by our love.

Let us know when you are ready to start.  I will know when you stop showing up to complain about me out of the blue.

Christ is Risen!!

You really are full of it, aren't you?
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« Reply #168 on: May 11, 2011, 09:32:49 PM »


And, as we have all degenerated once again into childish schoolyard rhetoric, so we close yet another thread in the Orthodox-Catholic Discussion forum.

Part of me is of a mind to lock this forum for a while, but I don't have that kind of power.

Now, children, off to bed without your supper because staying up to argue with someone over the internet just isn't worth losing that much sleep over.

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