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An apology
« on: March 18, 2015, 06:14:47 PM »
This being Lent I feel obliged to confess a problem with my posting style that has been causing difficulties for some users and to apologize for it. 

Specifically, the length of my posts, which is excessive.  My posts need more brevity.  However, I would ask my brothers and sisters on oc.net to consider that I have only included those aspects on each it's em that seemed relevant, I.e. believe it or not, I am not actually just dumping all the facts I know about a subject into each post.  And I'm certainly not trying to dazzle anyone with the amount that I know on a subject, because in fact that is usually very little.  But I see, to be bringing up too many points.  So I need to address how I respond to posts, because it's my desire to be able to engage with people here, and when TL;DR sets in due to verbosity on my part such engagement doesn't happen.  So I am working on this, and I beg your patience and your forgiveness.

I wish you all a most blessed Lent.
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Re: An apology
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2015, 06:20:54 PM »
*Shrug* It doesn't bother me.

Your details might be tangential but I don't think I've ever found them irrelevant. I can tell you're not just trying to show off.
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Re: An apology
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2015, 06:51:37 PM »
Your posts are very informative! Thank you for all your care, I have definitely learned a lot.
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Re: An apology
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2015, 06:52:21 PM »
I'm not sure an apology is really needed, as there is no sin in writing long posts per se, and your posts often contain a lot of helpful information. In a forum environment though, you are right that long posts can be rather daunting, and put people off reading through them. I pray the Lord will bless you as you learn to amend your style, so that more people here can be blessed by what you write.

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Re: An apology
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2015, 07:39:59 PM »
tl;dr

I read the Subject title though. I forgive you!

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Re: An apology
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2015, 08:07:24 PM »
The fact that you type them on an iPad satisfies me that you're being punished more than you deserve.
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Re: An apology
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2015, 08:11:57 PM »
I appreciate your responses.  One reason why I love the Philokalia is the extremely high information density, particularly in the writings of Nikita's Stithatos, Ss. Symeon the New Theologian, and St. Gregory of Palamas.  And I love Metropolitan Kallistos for having preserved this density rather than trying to tone it down to ease comprehension.  It's like being removed from a stuffy house into a more breathable atmosphere.  Likewise I avoid the word association game because instead of individual words popping up, probabilistic trees of words emerge based on the five or so things the word most associates with in my mind plus a projection of the most likely responses from other players.  I do enjoy reading the thread, but only in reverse, reading it forward is usually too obvious except when someone does something off the wall.  I'm someone who thrives on high information density, who built a career in IT out of the ability to handle it, and who used to vaingloriously revel in my ability to handle it, which is a minor blessing of the mental faculties, but not wisdom, nor any substitute for holy wisdom, which is the most important form of intelligence..  It's more like the difference between having a highly parallel multi core CPU as a brain, vs. an extremely fast one in linear speed, or an average one; it doesn't really matter if you don't have the right software, in other words, blessed wisdom of the sort King Solomon or St. Anthony the Great were endowed.
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Re: An apology
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2015, 08:15:43 PM »
The fact that you type them on an iPad satisfies me that you're being punished more than you deserve.

As I mentioned elsewhere due to my arthritis the iPad keyboard is a blessing.  I can't properly enjoy my beautiful Thinkpad keyboards, for example, or my IBM M series with its fantastic patented spring mechanism that makes it the Rolls Royce of computer keyboards, because the downward thrust is physically painful.  The arthritis isn't impacting accuracy and high accuracy is what the iPad demands.  The subtle change in the keyboard between the iPad 2 and the iPad Air drives me crazy though, for whatever reason I'm twice as error prone on the new iPad.  But it's nowhere near as bad as the pure horror that was the last Android tablet I used (a Lenovo).
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Re: An apology
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2015, 10:45:32 PM »
I appreciate your responses.  One reason why I love the Philokalia is the extremely high information density, particularly in the writings of Nikita's Stithatos, Ss. Symeon the New Theologian, and St. Gregory of Palamas.  And I love Metropolitan Kallistos for having preserved this density rather than trying to tone it down to ease comprehension.  It's like being removed from a stuffy house into a more breathable atmosphere.  Likewise I avoid the word association game because instead of individual words popping up, probabilistic trees of words emerge based on the five or so things the word most associates with in my mind plus a projection of the most likely responses from other players.  I do enjoy reading the thread, but only in reverse, reading it forward is usually too obvious except when someone does something off the wall.  I'm someone who thrives on high information density, who built a career in IT out of the ability to handle it, and who used to vaingloriously revel in my ability to handle it, which is a minor blessing of the mental faculties, but not wisdom, nor any substitute for holy wisdom, which is the most important form of intelligence..  It's more like the difference between having a highly parallel multi core CPU as a brain, vs. an extremely fast one in linear speed, or an average one; it doesn't really matter if you don't have the right software, in other words, blessed wisdom of the sort King Solomon or St. Anthony the Great were endowed.

Part of repentance is changing your behavior.

At least use more white space. Or not.
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Re: An apology
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2015, 12:12:07 AM »
Well I really appreciate what Justin, eddybear, Porter, Volnutt and dear Alexandra (who is the best poster on OC.net in terms of always having something kind to say) have said. But I will try to increase white space.

One problem is on the iPad the size of the input box or "combox" in blog speak makes it unclear how big your paragraph is going to be, and if one doesn't hit preview, one won't find out.  But I think even if I split my posts up into more paragraphs they'd still be too long.
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Re: An apology
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2015, 03:32:08 AM »
"I like you just the way you are"

Hey at least you don't double line each sentence like me.

I am sure it is just as annoying.
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Re: An apology
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2015, 11:27:05 AM »
"I like you just the way you are"

Hey at least you don't double line each sentence like me.

I am sure it is just as annoying.

The opposite.
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Re: An apology
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2015, 12:23:49 AM »
This being Lent I feel obliged to confess a problem with my posting style that has been causing difficulties for some users and to apologize for it. 

Specifically, the length of my posts, which is excessive.  My posts need more brevity.  However, I would ask my brothers and sisters on oc.net to consider that I have only included those aspects on each it's em that seemed relevant, I.e. believe it or not, I am not actually just dumping all the facts I know about a subject into each post.  And I'm certainly not trying to dazzle anyone with the amount that I know on a subject, because in fact that is usually very little.  But I see, to be bringing up too many points.  So I need to address how I respond to posts, because it's my desire to be able to engage with people here, and when TL;DR sets in due to verbosity on my part such engagement doesn't happen.  So I am working on this, and I beg your patience and your forgiveness.

I wish you all a most blessed Lent.
I find your posts very interesting and worth reading. I was never annoyed by the length.

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Re: An apology
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2015, 12:58:32 AM »
I usually don't read what you write, but it's nothing to apologize for. 
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Re: An apology
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2015, 03:20:48 PM »
I need to revive this thread because once again I have annoyed a member of this forum who I greatly respect through my writing style.  I need to make it clear, I speak with no authority, only from the basis of my limited knowledge; I am no longer a neophyte but I am no expert.  So please forgive me and pray for me that I might be able to better convey a sense of humility in my posts.
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