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Offline ozgeorge

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Re: Plans to transfer EP to Moscow
« Reply #90 on: April 30, 2011, 04:15:51 PM »
So what was your favorite place to eat in Constantinople?
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Re: Plans to transfer EP to Moscow
« Reply #91 on: April 30, 2011, 04:27:54 PM »
Mesih diril-di! Hristos diril-di!
The number of Turks who are crypto-Christians has astounded me though.

Are (m)any of them Eastern Orthodox Christians?
All the ones I have met are. They are under the Oecumenical Patriarchate.
Not all. Antioch has a number.

Which doesn't mean that all the ones ozgeorge happened to meet weren't under the EP's omophorion.
No, but it clarifies that not all Turks have to make it to Istanbul. In fact, in many ways it's better they don't (as Antioch is not watched as closely as the Phanar, and can get away with more).

Which parts of Turkey constitute a canonical territory of the Antiochian Orthodox Church? The Hatay Province of the Mediterranean Region, I guess, but anything else?
Ciicilia.

Is it settled with the EP or is there a "fight" over the region?

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Re: Plans to transfer EP to Moscow
« Reply #92 on: April 30, 2011, 11:51:29 PM »
So what was your favorite place to eat in Constantinople?
LOL. Eating smit with some juice on the steps of the Kaiser Wilhelm fountain, looking over the plaze towards Agia Sophia.
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Re: Plans to transfer EP to Moscow
« Reply #93 on: May 01, 2011, 01:30:05 AM »
Mesih diril-di! Hristos diril-di!
The number of Turks who are crypto-Christians has astounded me though.

Are (m)any of them Eastern Orthodox Christians?
All the ones I have met are. They are under the Oecumenical Patriarchate.
Not all. Antioch has a number.

Which doesn't mean that all the ones ozgeorge happened to meet weren't under the EP's omophorion.
No, but it clarifies that not all Turks have to make it to Istanbul. In fact, in many ways it's better they don't (as Antioch is not watched as closely as the Phanar, and can get away with more).

Which parts of Turkey constitute a canonical territory of the Antiochian Orthodox Church? The Hatay Province of the Mediterranean Region, I guess, but anything else?
Ciicilia.

Is it settled with the EP or is there a "fight" over the region?
No, it is settled. The EP had seized it some time before and returned it in the 19th century IIRC.
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Re: Plans to transfer EP to Moscow
« Reply #94 on: May 01, 2011, 01:33:47 AM »
Christos Anesti!
So what was your favorite place to eat in Constantinople?
LOL. Eating smit with some juice on the steps of the Kaiser Wilhelm fountain, looking over the plaze towards Agia Sophia.


I must have been sitting on the fountain edge, or the benches/fences in front.
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Re: Plans to transfer EP to Moscow
« Reply #95 on: May 01, 2011, 09:55:47 AM »
Oh, you mean simit.
I just had lunch in Üsküdar at a wonderful place that serves Lokantasi hazir yemek. The place is called Kanaat Lokantasi. You must try it next time you're in town.
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Re: Plans to transfer EP to Moscow
« Reply #96 on: May 01, 2011, 05:13:27 PM »
Christos anesti!
Oh, you mean simit.
I just had lunch in Üsküdar at a wonderful place that serves Lokantasi hazir yemek. The place is called Kanaat Lokantasi. You must try it next time you're in town.


I've never been to Üsküda, but I've been next door in Kadıköy, and even that was mostly to say I'd been to Chalcedon.  I never spent much time outside the Theodosian wall, except for Galata. What all did you have? I have to give the Turks their culinary due: they have the best variation of Mediterrean for most dishes.
Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.
A hasty quarrel kindles fire,
and urgent strife sheds blood.
If you blow on a spark, it will glow;
if you spit on it, it will be put out;
                           and both come out of your mouth