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Does one need to have recently given confession or anything in order to participate in Holy Unction? I've been away from the Church for most of Lent and was off looking after my sick mom recently, but I am back and trying to be steadfast for Holy Week. I haven't confessed or communed in nearly two months, though. Can I still be anointed during the Great Wednesday service?
Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2011, 10:23:07 PM » |
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I've never heard of there being any "prerequisites".
Besides, you didn't attend Lenten services because you were lazy, but, because you were doing what God would have wanted you to - caring for your parent.
I can't imagine the priest denying you Holy Unction.
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2011, 03:31:37 AM » |
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In my Parish it is required. The confession is done before the unction service.
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2011, 04:12:48 AM » |
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No confession required, where I come from. Actually they do "mass unction" every week here (I'm back home right now, for Easter) during Lent and then on Good Friday, since it's a very lucrative service. You make money out of it like out of few other sacraments/sacramentals.
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2011, 08:26:19 AM » |
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Of course, it would be ideal if you could go to confession beforehand since you have been away for such a time. But as to whether it is required, you would have to ask the priest in whatever church you plan to attend Unction, since practices and "requirements" may differ by parish or jurisdiction.
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2011, 08:45:23 AM » |
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I often hear people (wrongly) say that it's a substitute for confession. "Go get annointed on Wednesday and you can take Communion on Thursday, Saturday and Sunday without confessing". Although wrong, I don't think such a misconception could have developed among certain laypeople if confession was a prerequisite to being annointed.
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2011, 09:51:38 AM » |
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Our priest said on Sunday that we would have to have made our confession at least once during Lent in order to receive the Holy Unction on Wednesday.
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2011, 12:35:08 PM » |
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I do not see why confession would be required. Over here, even the Hungarians (who are not orthodox, of course) come and are anointed at the Unction service.
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2011, 12:44:18 PM » |
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I do not see why confession would be required. Over here, even the Hungarians (who are not orthodox, of course) come and are anointed at the Unction service.
Unction is a mystery of the Church and should not be administered to non-Orthodox. In churches where Confession is required before Communion (whether on a 1:1 basis or a minimum once per month confession for those communing weekly), Confession would be expected before Unction in a similar way as Confession before Communion would be required in that parish. In parishes where people commune weekly and are not required to confess, they will likely be able to receive Unction as well without confession.
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2011, 12:49:20 PM » |
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I do not see why confession would be required. Over here, even the Hungarians (who are not orthodox, of course) come and are anointed at the Unction service.
Unction is a mystery of the Church and should not be administered to non-Orthodox. .... yes, I'm very surprised that non-Orthodox are participating in a Mystery of the Orthodox Church.
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2011, 01:50:13 PM » |
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I do not see why confession would be required. Over here, even the Hungarians (who are not orthodox, of course) come and are anointed at the Unction service.
The simple answer might be that the Church does not equal the Romanian Church. or what I suspect to be, your understanding of the Romanian Church praxis and beliefs.
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2011, 03:05:31 PM » |
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I do not see why confession would be required. Over here, even the Hungarians (who are not orthodox, of course) come and are anointed at the Unction service.
Unction is a mystery of the Church and should not be administered to non-Orthodox. In churches where Confession is required before Communion (whether on a 1:1 basis or a minimum once per month confession for those communing weekly), Confession would be expected before Unction in a similar way as Confession before Communion would be required in that parish. In parishes where people commune weekly and are not required to confess, they will likely be able to receive Unction as well without confession. Well they do require confession before every reception of the communion, yet they do not require it for unction.
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2011, 03:06:30 PM » |
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I do not see why confession would be required. Over here, even the Hungarians (who are not orthodox, of course) come and are anointed at the Unction service.
The simple answer might be that the Church does not equal the Romanian Church. or what I suspect to be, your understanding of the Romanian Church praxis and beliefs. As we say "where you hit, and where it cracks".
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2011, 03:20:49 PM » |
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The question of whether to confess is best asked of your spiritual father. No one else here will answer for you to God.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2011, 12:46:57 PM » |
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Can unconscious people receive it?
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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2011, 01:36:17 PM » |
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Can unconscious people receive it?
Of course! I've known people who were anointed on their deathbed, and were unconscious.
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2011, 01:37:33 PM » |
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I do not see why confession would be required. Over here, even the Hungarians (who are not orthodox, of course) come and are anointed at the Unction service.
Are you sure they were anointed with chrism? I know in some parishes, during a mass unction service, the priest will anoint non-Orthodox with oil from the vigil lamp at a saint's relics or myrhh from a weeping icon, but NOT chrism.
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2011, 01:48:11 PM » |
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Are you sure they were anointed with chrism? I know in some parishes, during a mass unction service, the priest will anoint non-Orthodox with oil from the vigil lamp at a saint's relics or myrhh from a weeping icon, but NOT chrism. But if there are hundreds of people coming up, do you think the priest is giving each a pop-quiz?
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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2011, 01:48:19 PM » |
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I know in some parishes, during a mass unction service, the priest will anoint non-Orthodox with oil from the vigil lamp at a saint's relics or myrhh from a weeping icon, but NOT chrism.
That would be not an unction but anointing like the one is done during the Matins.
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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2011, 01:50:22 PM » |
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No, Unction is a free-for-all thing back home, just like communion is here in America in some churches. Not that is bad. It brings in money too, as you are expected to tip three times or so, during the service, if memory serves me right.
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No, Unction is a free-for-all thing back home, just like communion is here in America in some churches. Not that is bad. It brings in money too, as you are expected to tip three times or so, during the service, if memory serves me right.
Do people leave money after confession in Romania as well? I know the Russians do.
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No, Unction is a free-for-all thing back home, just like communion is here in America in some churches. Not that is bad. It brings in money too, as you are expected to tip three times or so, during the service, if memory serves me right.
Do people leave money after confession in Romania as well? I know the Russians do. In my home town they didn't, but i've seen it done some other places like the metropolitan cathedral of Timisoara.
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