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Dutch / Nederlands
« on: April 12, 2011, 03:14:13 AM »
Mijn stem

Bij het ruw houten kruis,
heeft mijn stem geklonken
Kruisig Hem!
Daar werd de beker leeggedronken.
 
Valselijk beschuldigd
stond U daar terecht.
Mijn overtredingen en zonden
hebben Uw vonnis beslecht.
 
Ik ben mijn eigen weg gegaan.
Wist het allemaal zo goed.
Mijn eigen mening stond voorop,
ik wist hoe het moest.
 
Totdat ik ging beseffen,
dat ik niet alles weet.
Erkennen, dat ik Iemand nodig heb,
maakte mijn omkering  compleet.
 
Aan Hem gaf ik mijn leven.
Hou niet langer alles in de hand.
Hij bestuurt mijn levensboot,
brengt mij veilig naar de overkant.

Auteur:Tessensohn, Rolinka

Heb jij ook favoriete gedichten of verhalen?! Laat het dan horen!
I pray Thee, O Merciful Lord, for all the peoples of the earth, that they may come to know Thee by Thy Holy Spirit.

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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2011, 01:40:47 PM »
Can only read and understand the language when spoken, with some difficulty.  :(  And I know exactly nil in the way of poetry. But please keep contributing.
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2011, 09:44:16 AM »
Can only read and understand the language when spoken, with some difficulty.  :(  And I know exactly nil in the way of poetry. But please keep contributing.
My voice

By the rough wooden cross
my voice has sounded
Crucify him!
The cup was drunk there up.

Falsely accused
You stood right there.
My transgressions and sins
Have your verdict settled.

I have gone my own way.
I knew it all so well.
My own opinion was paramount,
I always knew how…

Until I started to realize,
I do not know everything.
Recognition that I need Someone,
Made my reversal complete.

I gave my life to Him.
Keep no longer everything in control.
He rules my life boat
brings me safely across.
I pray Thee, O Merciful Lord, for all the peoples of the earth, that they may come to know Thee by Thy Holy Spirit.

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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2011, 04:12:25 PM »
Zit u in Nederland?  Zo ja, aan welke parochie kerkt u?

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Mijn stem

Bij het ruw houten kruis,
heeft mijn stem geklonken
Kruisig Hem!
Daar werd de beker leeggedronken.
 
Valselijk beschuldigd
stond U daar terecht.
Mijn overtredingen en zonden
hebben Uw vonnis beslecht.
 
Ik ben mijn eigen weg gegaan.
Wist het allemaal zo goed.
Mijn eigen mening stond voorop,
ik wist hoe het moest.
 
Totdat ik ging beseffen,
dat ik niet alles weet.
Erkennen, dat ik Iemand nodig heb,
maakte mijn omkering  compleet.
 
Aan Hem gaf ik mijn leven.
Hou niet langer alles in de hand.
Hij bestuurt mijn levensboot,
brengt mij veilig naar de overkant.

Auteur:Tessensohn, Rolinka

Heb jij ook favoriete gedichten of verhalen?! Laat het dan horen!
In XC,

Deacon Philip

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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2011, 06:22:01 AM »
Ik ga naar de parochie van de Heilige Nektarios in Eindhoven. Komt u dit bekend voor? Het is een goede parochie voor vele Orthodoxe gelovigen in Nederland.
Ben ook benieuwd aan welke parochie u kerkt.

www.orthodox-eindhoven.nl/

Groeten in XC,
Daniel

P.S. Klik op onderstaande afbeelding voor vergrooting.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2011, 06:26:21 AM by Gentleman »
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2011, 08:17:56 AM »
Beste Daniel,

Ik dien in de Klooster van de Profeet Elias in St Hubert.  Tot nu toe ben ik nog niet in de Kerk in Eindhoven geweesd, maar ik heb wel de Vaders ontmoet.

Het is een hele mooie foto.

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Ik ga naar de parochie van de Heilige Nektarios in Eindhoven. Komt u dit bekend voor? Het is een goede parochie voor vele Orthodoxe gelovigen in Nederland.
Ben ook benieuwd aan welke parochie u kerkt.

www.orthodox-eindhoven.nl/

Groeten in XC,
Daniel

P.S. Klik op onderstaande afbeelding voor vergrooting.
In XC,

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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2011, 09:06:21 AM »
O, u bent van het klooster in Sint-Hubert. Ik was daar ook een keer geweest, op de dag van de begrafenis van vader Pahom. Mooi kerk, met heel veel iconen overal.

Onze Vader in het Nederlands / Lords Prayer in Dutch
« Last Edit: April 14, 2011, 09:07:26 AM by Gentleman »
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2011, 09:51:31 AM »
O, u bent van het klooster in Sint-Hubert. Ik was daar ook een keer geweest, op de dag van de begrafenis van vader Pahom. Mooi kerk, met heel veel iconen overal.

Onze Vader in het Nederlands / Lords Prayer in Dutch


Christus is opgestaan!

Hopelijk dit jaar, wij gaan onze parochiefeest vieren op die "echte" datum (ipv de Zondag daarnaast).  Dus als u vrij bent op 20 juli, zijn u van hart welcom.

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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2011, 08:07:28 AM »
Hij is waarlijk opgestaan!

Dank u, als ik dan niet weg op vakantie ben zou ik zeker proberen te komen.
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2012, 03:26:43 PM »
Waarom heb ik dit niet eerder gezien? Zijn er hier nog nederlanders actief of niet? Aan jullie profiel te zien lurken jullie hier nog steeds. Dus, kom op, wees niet zo verlegen.
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2012, 03:35:04 PM »
Waarom heb ik dit niet eerder gezien? Zijn er hier nog nederlanders actief of niet? Aan jullie profiel te zien lurken jullie hier nog steeds. Dus, kom op, wees niet zo verlegen.

Kan jy verstaan ​​Afrikaans?

Das ist des Jägers Ehrenschild, daß er beschützt und hegt sein Wild, weidmännisch jagt, wie sich’s gehört, den Schöpfer im Geschöpfe ehrt.

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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2012, 03:37:53 PM »
Waarom heb ik dit niet eerder gezien? Zijn er hier nog nederlanders actief of niet? Aan jullie profiel te zien lurken jullie hier nog steeds. Dus, kom op, wees niet zo verlegen.

Kan jy verstaan ​​Afrikaans?



Jazeker. Het lijkt ook heel erg op Nederlands. Ben je een Boer?
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2012, 05:03:28 PM »
Waarom heb ik dit niet eerder gezien? Zijn er hier nog nederlanders actief of niet? Aan jullie profiel te zien lurken jullie hier nog steeds. Dus, kom op, wees niet zo verlegen.

Kan jy verstaan ​​Afrikaans?



Jazeker. Het lijkt ook heel erg op Nederlands. Ben je een Boer?

Nee, ek is 'n Amerikaanse.  Ek leer Afrikaans.

Funny story which I will give in English because it is relevant and you speak English better than I do Dutch or Afrikaans   ;).  My friend and I had a South African bus driver once so my friend asked if he was a Boer.  He said, "No.  I'm a truck driver."   :laugh:
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2012, 11:58:51 PM »
Can only read and understand the language when spoken, with some difficulty.  :(  And I know exactly nil in the way of poetry. But please keep contributing.

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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2012, 03:22:38 AM »
Waarom heb ik dit niet eerder gezien? Zijn er hier nog nederlanders actief of niet? Aan jullie profiel te zien lurken jullie hier nog steeds. Dus, kom op, wees niet zo verlegen.

Kan jy verstaan ​​Afrikaans?



Jazeker. Het lijkt ook heel erg op Nederlands. Ben je een Boer?

Nee, ek is 'n Amerikaanse.  Ek leer Afrikaans.

Funny story which I will give in English because it is relevant and you speak English better than I do Dutch or Afrikaans   ;).  My friend and I had a South African bus driver once so my friend asked if he was a Boer.  He said, "No.  I'm a truck driver."   :laugh:

HAHAHA!  ;D

That joke only the Dutch or the Boeren would understand  :D

Maar waarom leer je eigenlijk Afrikaans?
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2012, 07:19:38 AM »
Waarom heb ik dit niet eerder gezien? Zijn er hier nog nederlanders actief of niet? Aan jullie profiel te zien lurken jullie hier nog steeds. Dus, kom op, wees niet zo verlegen.

Ik ben hier nog...

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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2012, 09:53:13 AM »
So awesome to understand a language I've rarely heard spoke or seen written.

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« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2012, 09:53:50 AM »
Can only read and understand the language when spoken, with some difficulty.  :(  And I know exactly nil in the way of poetry. But please keep contributing.

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Someone found the Easter Egg.

William do you also have an orthonorm.txt file?
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2012, 10:51:08 AM »
Waarom heb ik dit niet eerder gezien? Zijn er hier nog nederlanders actief of niet? Aan jullie profiel te zien lurken jullie hier nog steeds. Dus, kom op, wees niet zo verlegen.

Kan jy verstaan ​​Afrikaans?



Jazeker. Het lijkt ook heel erg op Nederlands. Ben je een Boer?

Nee, ek is 'n Amerikaanse.  Ek leer Afrikaans.

Funny story which I will give in English because it is relevant and you speak English better than I do Dutch or Afrikaans   ;).  My friend and I had a South African bus driver once so my friend asked if he was a Boer.  He said, "No.  I'm a truck driver."   :laugh:

HAHAHA!  ;D

That joke only the Dutch or the Boeren would understand  :D

Maar waarom leer je eigenlijk Afrikaans?

No - makes perfect sense to me too (I hope). He's saying he's not a farmer. I'm not at all fluent, but I'm familiar with Plattdeutsch (it was my grandfather's only language until secondary school) and it seems to help me understand a fair bit of both Dutch and Afrikaans - though the spellings are odd. There's no standard orthography for Platt but what would be Bauer in Hochdeutsch is more like Bur in Platt, which sounds very similar to Boer. (When I say Plattdeutsch I'm referring to the dialect spoken in the region close to Bremen - other dialects are available)

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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2012, 11:14:27 AM »
Waarom heb ik dit niet eerder gezien? Zijn er hier nog nederlanders actief of niet? Aan jullie profiel te zien lurken jullie hier nog steeds. Dus, kom op, wees niet zo verlegen.

Kan jy verstaan ​​Afrikaans?



Jazeker. Het lijkt ook heel erg op Nederlands. Ben je een Boer?

Nee, ek is 'n Amerikaanse.  Ek leer Afrikaans.

Funny story which I will give in English because it is relevant and you speak English better than I do Dutch or Afrikaans   ;).  My friend and I had a South African bus driver once so my friend asked if he was a Boer.  He said, "No.  I'm a truck driver."   :laugh:

HAHAHA!  ;D

That joke only the Dutch or the Boeren would understand  :D

Maar waarom leer je eigenlijk Afrikaans?

No - makes perfect sense to me too (I hope). He's saying he's not a farmer. I'm not at all fluent, but I'm familiar with Plattdeutsch (it was my grandfather's only language until secondary school) and it seems to help me understand a fair bit of both Dutch and Afrikaans - though the spellings are odd. There's no standard orthography for Platt but what would be Bauer in Hochdeutsch is more like Bur in Platt, which sounds very similar to Boer. (When I say Plattdeutsch I'm referring to the dialect spoken in the region close to Bremen - other dialects are available)

James


You might enjoy this, although you probably already know about it:

http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:H%C3%B6%C3%B6ftsiet
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2012, 11:22:12 AM »
Waarom heb ik dit niet eerder gezien? Zijn er hier nog nederlanders actief of niet? Aan jullie profiel te zien lurken jullie hier nog steeds. Dus, kom op, wees niet zo verlegen.

Kan jy verstaan ​​Afrikaans?



Jazeker. Het lijkt ook heel erg op Nederlands. Ben je een Boer?

Nee, ek is 'n Amerikaanse.  Ek leer Afrikaans.

Funny story which I will give in English because it is relevant and you speak English better than I do Dutch or Afrikaans   ;).  My friend and I had a South African bus driver once so my friend asked if he was a Boer.  He said, "No.  I'm a truck driver."   :laugh:

HAHAHA!  ;D

That joke only the Dutch or the Boeren would understand  :D

Maar waarom leer je eigenlijk Afrikaans?

No - makes perfect sense to me too (I hope). He's saying he's not a farmer. I'm not at all fluent, but I'm familiar with Plattdeutsch (it was my grandfather's only language until secondary school) and it seems to help me understand a fair bit of both Dutch and Afrikaans - though the spellings are odd. There's no standard orthography for Platt but what would be Bauer in Hochdeutsch is more like Bur in Platt, which sounds very similar to Boer. (When I say Plattdeutsch I'm referring to the dialect spoken in the region close to Bremen - other dialects are available)

James


You might enjoy this, although you probably already know about it:

http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:H%C3%B6%C3%B6ftsiet
Thanks. No I, strangely, have never even thought to look for a Platt version of Wikipedia. I grew up hearing bits it (my mother cursing under her breath to a large degree) but never really was all that interested until the last few years. I'd love to be fluent but unfortunately unless I move the family back there, I don't think I ever will be.

James
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2012, 12:54:09 PM »
Waarom heb ik dit niet eerder gezien? Zijn er hier nog nederlanders actief of niet? Aan jullie profiel te zien lurken jullie hier nog steeds. Dus, kom op, wees niet zo verlegen.

Ik ben hier nog...

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Hallo Diaken Philip. Op dit forum zijn er niet veel Nederlanders en dan ben ik ook nog alleen maar iemand die geïnteresseerd is in de Orthodoxie.
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« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2012, 01:06:20 PM »
Waarom heb ik dit niet eerder gezien? Zijn er hier nog nederlanders actief of niet? Aan jullie profiel te zien lurken jullie hier nog steeds. Dus, kom op, wees niet zo verlegen.

Kan jy verstaan ​​Afrikaans?



Jazeker. Het lijkt ook heel erg op Nederlands. Ben je een Boer?

Nee, ek is 'n Amerikaanse.  Ek leer Afrikaans.

Funny story which I will give in English because it is relevant and you speak English better than I do Dutch or Afrikaans   ;).  My friend and I had a South African bus driver once so my friend asked if he was a Boer.  He said, "No.  I'm a truck driver."   :laugh:

HAHAHA!  ;D

That joke only the Dutch or the Boeren would understand  :D

Maar waarom leer je eigenlijk Afrikaans?

No - makes perfect sense to me too (I hope). He's saying he's not a farmer. I'm not at all fluent, but I'm familiar with Plattdeutsch (it was my grandfather's only language until secondary school) and it seems to help me understand a fair bit of both Dutch and Afrikaans - though the spellings are odd. There's no standard orthography for Platt but what would be Bauer in Hochdeutsch is more like Bur in Platt, which sounds very similar to Boer. (When I say Plattdeutsch I'm referring to the dialect spoken in the region close to Bremen - other dialects are available)

James


You might enjoy this, although you probably already know about it:

http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:H%C3%B6%C3%B6ftsiet
Thanks. No I, strangely, have never even thought to look for a Platt version of Wikipedia. I grew up hearing bits it (my mother cursing under her breath to a large degree) but never really was all that interested until the last few years. I'd love to be fluent but unfortunately unless I move the family back there, I don't think I ever will be.

James

Pretty much outside of Bavarian, Austria, and of course Switzerland real dialect use is dead.

The Standard language has taken over for the most part.
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2012, 03:11:14 PM »
Can only read and understand the language when spoken, with some difficulty.  :(  And I know exactly nil in the way of poetry. But please keep contributing.

orthonorm used a smiley!!!!!

Someone found the Easter Egg.

William do you also have an orthonorm.txt file?

A what?
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2012, 03:19:45 PM »
Can only read and understand the language when spoken, with some difficulty.  :(  And I know exactly nil in the way of poetry. But please keep contributing.

orthonorm used a smiley!!!!!

Someone found the Easter Egg.

William do you also have an orthonorm.txt file?

A what?

Εen tekstbestandje speciaal voor orthonorm, denk ik. Een dossier, misschien? Willem, hier spreken we Nederlands.
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2012, 03:46:38 PM »
Waarom heb ik dit niet eerder gezien? Zijn er hier nog nederlanders actief of niet? Aan jullie profiel te zien lurken jullie hier nog steeds. Dus, kom op, wees niet zo verlegen.

Kan jy verstaan ​​Afrikaans?



Jazeker. Het lijkt ook heel erg op Nederlands. Ben je een Boer?

Nee, ek is 'n Amerikaanse.  Ek leer Afrikaans.

Funny story which I will give in English because it is relevant and you speak English better than I do Dutch or Afrikaans   ;).  My friend and I had a South African bus driver once so my friend asked if he was a Boer.  He said, "No.  I'm a truck driver."   :laugh:

HAHAHA!  ;D

That joke only the Dutch or the Boeren would understand  :D

Maar waarom leer je eigenlijk Afrikaans?

Die Antwoord, Jack Parow, and Die Heuwels Fantasies!   ;)
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2012, 03:56:13 PM »
Kan je dit lied verstaan? Ik vind het ergens wel wat hebben als je de geschiedenis van Zuid-Afrika kent.
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« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2012, 04:11:24 PM »
Can only read and understand the language when spoken, with some difficulty.  :(  And I know exactly nil in the way of poetry. But please keep contributing.

orthonorm used a smiley!!!!!

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William do you also have an orthonorm.txt file?

A what?

Εen tekstbestandje speciaal voor orthonorm, denk ik. Een dossier, misschien? Willem, hier spreken we Nederlands.

I don't spreken "Nederlands".
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2012, 04:16:13 PM »
Can only read and understand the language when spoken, with some difficulty.  :(  And I know exactly nil in the way of poetry. But please keep contributing.

orthonorm used a smiley!!!!!

Someone found the Easter Egg.

William do you also have an orthonorm.txt file?

A what?

Εen tekstbestandje speciaal voor orthonorm, denk ik. Een dossier, misschien? Willem, hier spreken we Nederlands.

I don't spreken "Nederlands".

"Ik spreek geen Nederlands" is the only sentence in Dutch you should know when you come across someone from the Netherlands. I even voicerecorded it so that you could practice your pronunciation  :D
« Last Edit: October 04, 2012, 04:18:30 PM by Cyrillic »
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2012, 04:35:12 PM »
Can only read and understand the language when spoken, with some difficulty.  :(  And I know exactly nil in the way of poetry. But please keep contributing.

orthonorm used a smiley!!!!!

Someone found the Easter Egg.

William do you also have an orthonorm.txt file?

A what?

Εen tekstbestandje speciaal voor orthonorm, denk ik. Een dossier, misschien? Willem, hier spreken we Nederlands.

I don't spreken "Nederlands".

"Ik spreek geen Nederlands" is the only sentence in Dutch you should know when you come across someone from the Netherlands. I even voicerecorded it so that you could practice your pronunciation  :D

The pronunciation is too intense!
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2012, 04:39:29 PM »
Can only read and understand the language when spoken, with some difficulty.  :(  And I know exactly nil in the way of poetry. But please keep contributing.

orthonorm used a smiley!!!!!

Someone found the Easter Egg.

William do you also have an orthonorm.txt file?

A what?

Εen tekstbestandje speciaal voor orthonorm, denk ik. Een dossier, misschien? Willem, hier spreken we Nederlands.

I don't spreken "Nederlands".

"Ik spreek geen Nederlands" is the only sentence in Dutch you should know when you come across someone from the Netherlands. I even voicerecorded it so that you could practice your pronunciation  :D

The pronunciation is too intense!

Try it and let me hear it! ;D
« Last Edit: October 04, 2012, 04:40:03 PM by Cyrillic »
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2012, 04:57:39 PM »
Can only read and understand the language when spoken, with some difficulty.  :(  And I know exactly nil in the way of poetry. But please keep contributing.

orthonorm used a smiley!!!!!

Someone found the Easter Egg.

William do you also have an orthonorm.txt file?

A what?

Εen tekstbestandje speciaal voor orthonorm, denk ik. Een dossier, misschien? Willem, hier spreken we Nederlands.

I don't spreken "Nederlands".

"Ik spreek geen Nederlands" is the only sentence in Dutch you should know when you come across someone from the Netherlands. I even voicerecorded it so that you could practice your pronunciation  :D

The pronunciation is too intense!

Try it and let me hear it! ;D

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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2012, 05:36:53 PM »
Can only read and understand the language when spoken, with some difficulty.  :(  And I know exactly nil in the way of poetry. But please keep contributing.

orthonorm used a smiley!!!!!

Someone found the Easter Egg.

William do you also have an orthonorm.txt file?

A what?

Εen tekstbestandje speciaal voor orthonorm, denk ik. Een dossier, misschien? Willem, hier spreken we Nederlands.

I don't spreken "Nederlands".

"Ik spreek geen Nederlands" is the only sentence in Dutch you should know when you come across someone from the Netherlands. I even voicerecorded it so that you could practice your pronunciation  :D

lol (pardon the pun)

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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2012, 05:47:42 PM »
Can only read and understand the language when spoken, with some difficulty.  :(  And I know exactly nil in the way of poetry. But please keep contributing.

orthonorm used a smiley!!!!!

Someone found the Easter Egg.

William do you also have an orthonorm.txt file?

A what?

Εen tekstbestandje speciaal voor orthonorm, denk ik. Een dossier, misschien? Willem, hier spreken we Nederlands.

I don't spreken "Nederlands".

"Ik spreek geen Nederlands" is the only sentence in Dutch you should know when you come across someone from the Netherlands. I even voicerecorded it so that you could practice your pronunciation  :D

lol (pardon the pun)



lol? http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lol#Dutch
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2012, 05:48:27 PM »
We Dutch are so hipster we said lol before it became mainstream.
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« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2012, 05:54:14 PM »
We Dutch are so hipster we said lol before it became mainstream.

Don't be so self-hating. Not hipster. 7337.
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2012, 03:37:15 AM »
Waarom heb ik dit niet eerder gezien? Zijn er hier nog nederlanders actief of niet? Aan jullie profiel te zien lurken jullie hier nog steeds. Dus, kom op, wees niet zo verlegen.

Kan jy verstaan ​​Afrikaans?



Jazeker. Het lijkt ook heel erg op Nederlands. Ben je een Boer?

Nee, ek is 'n Amerikaanse.  Ek leer Afrikaans.

Funny story which I will give in English because it is relevant and you speak English better than I do Dutch or Afrikaans   ;).  My friend and I had a South African bus driver once so my friend asked if he was a Boer.  He said, "No.  I'm a truck driver."   :laugh:

HAHAHA!  ;D

That joke only the Dutch or the Boeren would understand  :D

Maar waarom leer je eigenlijk Afrikaans?

No - makes perfect sense to me too (I hope). He's saying he's not a farmer. I'm not at all fluent, but I'm familiar with Plattdeutsch (it was my grandfather's only language until secondary school) and it seems to help me understand a fair bit of both Dutch and Afrikaans - though the spellings are odd. There's no standard orthography for Platt but what would be Bauer in Hochdeutsch is more like Bur in Platt, which sounds very similar to Boer. (When I say Plattdeutsch I'm referring to the dialect spoken in the region close to Bremen - other dialects are available)

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You might enjoy this, although you probably already know about it:

http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:H%C3%B6%C3%B6ftsiet
Thanks. No I, strangely, have never even thought to look for a Platt version of Wikipedia. I grew up hearing bits it (my mother cursing under her breath to a large degree) but never really was all that interested until the last few years. I'd love to be fluent but unfortunately unless I move the family back there, I don't think I ever will be.

James

Pretty much outside of Bavarian, Austria, and of course Switzerland real dialect use is dead.

The Standard language has taken over for the most part.


No, Platt is alive and well in my ancestral home - they even have written Platt adverts in the local magazine, alongside Hochdeutsch of course. Of course, it's a tiny town in the sticks about halfway between Bremen and Hannover, so it's probably pretty much a rural holdout, though having said that Radio Bremen definitely still has programmes in Platt as well. My understanding is that there's a reasonably big movement to revive the language in Niedersachsen, Bremen and Hamburg as well.

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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2012, 07:39:24 AM »
We Dutch are so hipster we said lol before it became mainstream.

Yes but with a different meaning...
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2013, 11:31:11 AM »
Zijn er ook Belgen hier?  :)

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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2013, 12:50:01 PM »
Can only read and understand the language when spoken, with some difficulty.  :(  And I know exactly nil in the way of poetry. But please keep contributing.

orthonorm used a smiley!!!!!

Someone found the Easter Egg.

William do you also have an orthonorm.txt file?

A what?

Εen tekstbestandje speciaal voor orthonorm, denk ik. Een dossier, misschien? Willem, hier spreken we Nederlands.

I don't spreken "Nederlands".

"Ik spreek geen Nederlands" is the only sentence in Dutch you should know when you come across someone from the Netherlands. I even voicerecorded it so that you could practice your pronunciation  :D

Ik spreek geen Nederlands. But I can try.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s12VxBPzsUEb
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2013, 01:11:04 PM »
Waarom heb ik dit niet eerder gezien? Zijn er hier nog nederlanders actief of niet? Aan jullie profiel te zien lurken jullie hier nog steeds. Dus, kom op, wees niet zo verlegen.

Kan jy verstaan ​​Afrikaans?



Jazeker. Het lijkt ook heel erg op Nederlands. Ben je een Boer?

Nee, ek is 'n Amerikaanse.  Ek leer Afrikaans.

Funny story which I will give in English because it is relevant and you speak English better than I do Dutch or Afrikaans   ;).  My friend and I had a South African bus driver once so my friend asked if he was a Boer.  He said, "No.  I'm a truck driver."   :laugh:

HAHAHA!  ;D

That joke only the Dutch or the Boeren would understand  :D

Maar waarom leer je eigenlijk Afrikaans?

No - makes perfect sense to me too (I hope). He's saying he's not a farmer. I'm not at all fluent, but I'm familiar with Plattdeutsch (it was my grandfather's only language until secondary school) and it seems to help me understand a fair bit of both Dutch and Afrikaans - though the spellings are odd. There's no standard orthography for Platt but what would be Bauer in Hochdeutsch is more like Bur in Platt, which sounds very similar to Boer. (When I say Plattdeutsch I'm referring to the dialect spoken in the region close to Bremen - other dialects are available)

James


You might enjoy this, although you probably already know about it:

http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:H%C3%B6%C3%B6ftsiet
Thanks. No I, strangely, have never even thought to look for a Platt version of Wikipedia. I grew up hearing bits it (my mother cursing under her breath to a large degree) but never really was all that interested until the last few years. I'd love to be fluent but unfortunately unless I move the family back there, I don't think I ever will be.

James

Pretty much outside of Bavarian, Austria, and of course Switzerland real dialect use is dead.

The Standard language has taken over for the most part.


No, Platt is alive and well in my ancestral home - they even have written Platt adverts in the local magazine, alongside Hochdeutsch of course. Of course, it's a tiny town in the sticks about halfway between Bremen and Hannover, so it's probably pretty much a rural holdout, though having said that Radio Bremen definitely still has programmes in Platt as well. My understanding is that there's a reasonably big movement to revive the language in Niedersachsen, Bremen and Hamburg as well.

James

My greatgrandmother was a Saxon and spoke Plattdeutsch as well as real-deutsch.  None of the kids spoke it, but when she got really mad she'd scream at them in Plattdeutsch.  My grandma said that they would all laugh at her for talking funny which would throw her into bigger fits of rage.

One time I read something in Dutch to my grandma and she said it sounded like Plattdeutsch to her.  Are they related somehow?  It looks like the Afrikaans word for Plattdeutsch is Nederduits. 
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« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2013, 01:13:04 PM »
Also, Cyrillic, when you say "Ik spreek geen Nederlands" how is the "g" pronounced?  Do the Nederlandse clear their throat with the "g" like they do in Afrikaans or is it different?
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2013, 01:30:03 PM »
My greatgrandmother was a Saxon and spoke Plattdeutsch as well as real-deutsch.  None of the kids spoke it, but when she got really mad she'd scream at them in Plattdeutsch.  My grandma said that they would all laugh at her for talking funny which would throw her into bigger fits of rage.

One time I read something in Dutch to my grandma and she said it sounded like Plattdeutsch to her.  Are they related somehow?  It looks like the Afrikaans word for Plattdeutsch is Nederduits. 

There's a sort of continuum. Low German dialects experienced either very few or none of the sound changes of the High German consonant shift, and so, they preserve, like Dutch, unshifted consonants. For example, many Low German dialects will use ik instead of ich, Appel instead of Apfel, geven instead of geben, schip instead of schiff, etc. Low German dialects can be rather easily mutually intelligible with Dutch, and difficult to understand for speakers of Standard German (that is probably why your grandmother said the Dutch you were reading sounded like Plattdeutsch).
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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2013, 01:36:15 PM »
Also, Cyrillic, when you say "Ik spreek geen Nederlands" how is the "g" pronounced?  Do the Nederlandse clear their throat with the "g" like they do in Afrikaans or is it different?

I recorded it since I don't know how to use the phonetic alphabet. Don't ask the Belgians how to pronounce the 'g' though. Their pronunciation of it is horrible.

Zijn er ook Belgen hier?  :)

Neen. Je zal het met mij moeten stellen :)


Ik spreek geen Nederlands. But I can try.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s12VxBPzsUEb

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Re: Dutch / Nederlands
« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2013, 01:48:24 PM »
Ik wist niet dat zo'n thread bestaat!

Leuk! Ook al voor mij schijnt schrijven moeilijker te zijn dan praten. Sinds een paar jaar heb ik de taal helemaal niet gebruikt.