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Offline ialmisry

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Kiev, Constantinople and the rest of US.
« on: October 03, 2014, 11:32:31 AM »
I'm intentionally not quoting the political parts here, and hope that we can keep the discussion free of that.
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[Pat.] Filaret said that in 1992 he met with [Pat.] Bartholomew, the patriarch of Constantinople, who said the Ukrainian church had a right to autocephaly. But [Pat.] Bartholomew said the two major Ukrainian Orthodox churches should first unite before their independence is recognized, [Pat.] Filaret added.

He said that the Kyiv Patriarchate was still having informal talks with the Constantinople Patriarchate and discussing potential recognition.
And here we have why the promised/threatened "Great and Holy Council" is not going to happen, and the subject of this thread
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,61094.0.html
is duplicitous.
But the EP is correct-if HH is being quoted correctly-on Ukraine.
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Re: Kiev, Constantinople and the rest of US.
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2014, 11:34:56 AM »

The rest of you don't matter.

It's all about Ukrainians!   :angel:
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Re: Kiev, Constantinople and the rest of US.
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2014, 11:45:05 AM »

The rest of you don't matter.

It's all about Ukrainians!   :angel:
Що решта з нас?

What rest of us?
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Re: Kiev, Constantinople and the rest of US.
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2014, 11:45:46 AM »

The rest of you don't matter.

It's all about Ukrainians!   :angel:

The Ukrainians chrismated me, so they're doing something right.
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Re: Kiev, Constantinople and the rest of US.
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2014, 12:07:13 PM »
I hope they do reconcile and become independent from Moscow. Surely it must be obvious that Moscow trying to govern churches in Ukraine is a bad idea.
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Re: Kiev, Constantinople and the rest of US.
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2014, 04:20:39 AM »

The rest of you don't matter.

It's all about Ukrainians!   :angel:

For now, yes. But before long, it'll be about whatever nation's people are spotlighted in the news next. So enjoy your moment of glory, as it will be short-lived. :D

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