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A street preacher in Arizona who held up a sign saying “You deserve to be raped” was hit over the head with a baseball bat by a woman who became enraged at his hateful rhetoric.

Brother Dean Saxton was standing outside Apollo High School in Glendale, Arizona, loudly condemning students and members of the LGBT community, when he was approached by a 19-year-old student with a baseball bat.

His camera was still rolling as students standing around wooped and cheered.

Tabitha Brubaker has been charged felony assault and marijuana possession by police, as reported by ABC15 News.


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He should be considered blessed. Student was wrong for hitting him. We all know what happens at these college campuses these days. I blame the parents. Go have a good time kids.  ::)

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He should be considered blessed. Student was wrong for hitting him. We all know what happens at these college campuses these days. I blame the parents. Go have a good time kids.  ::)
You only get a blessing if you were hit for Christ's sake, so it doesn't apply here.
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If he is railing against sin, such as homosexuality, etc...why does his sign say "WOMEN" deserve to be raped?

Which women?

...and if he's going by what the Bible says...where in the Bible does it ever state that anyone deserves to be raped?

He's only making it worse with his approach.
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He was asking for it by holding that sign. The lady couldn't control herself.

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He was asking for it by holding that sign. The lady couldn't control herself.

I see what you did thar.
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He was asking for it by holding that sign. The lady couldn't control herself.

 ;)
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I don't think people should be beaten just because they express themselves poorly.
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I don't think people should be beaten just because they express themselves poorly.




“You deserve to be raped”


does not sound like a poor expression of his sentiment
All opinions expressed by myself are quite tragically my own, and not those of any other poster or wall hangings.

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It is, due to the circumstances.
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I don't think people should be beaten just because they express themselves poorly.

I don't think people should be raped just because random strangers don't agree with their lifestyle choices.
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It is, due to the circumstances.


What circumstance allows for anyone to WISH for others to get raped.....as part of showing God's love for humanity?
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This, again?
We all know that's not the point people make :laugh:
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He should be considered blessed. Student was wrong for hitting him. We all know what happens at these college campuses these days. I blame the parents. Go have a good time kids.  ::)

This was at a high school.

And we're only blessed for being reviled when we're reviled on account of Christ - a man who never once declared that you deserve to be raped.
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The police should arrest the 19-year old with assault with deadly weapon and release her promptly because of the proximate case for her attack was the terminal stupidity of the victim. The street preacher should be made a finalist for the next Darwin Award.

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Poe's Law gone live action. There was a comediant who held a similar sign and posted reactions on Youtube, I can't find his video right now...
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The creators and operators of websites where every other word has a hotlink for popup ads deserve to be raped with baseball bats and then bludgeoned mercilessly with the same bat. 
Das ist des Jägers Ehrenschild, daß er beschützt und hegt sein Wild, weidmännisch jagt, wie sich’s gehört, den Schöpfer im Geschöpfe ehrt.

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Found the comedian I mentioned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPgk0Hv-eTc [profanity warning]
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This thread title keeps making me beleive it is a thread about these guys


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Street_Preachers
All opinions expressed by myself are quite tragically my own, and not those of any other poster or wall hangings.

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This thread title keeps making me beleive it is a thread about these guys


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Street_Preachers

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This is just more case in point of a comment / question I made several days ago on the thread about the RC Cardinal thinks his followers should be converting Muslims.

This type of thing is all too common from the heterodox
who pretty much make a lot of people hate Christianity

So happy to have moved away from the whack job 7th Day Adventist who continually harassed me about religion when it was obvious that he had no clue

Downtown they just beat the crap out him, broke his jaw and his phone, or maybe they stole it, can't remember now

As for this yet another repugnant heterodox interpretation of Christianity, young women in the USA, particularly on college campuses where they all too often experience rape with no consequences for the rapist, are not tolerating anymore

Who knows, perhaps the young woman had already suffered rape and just lashed out against an entire system that has been shown to collude on behalf of rapists

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As for this yet another repugnant heterodox interpretation of Christianity, young women in the USA, particularly on college campuses where they all too often experience rape with no consequences for the rapist, are not tolerating anymore

Who knows, perhaps the young woman had already suffered rape and just lashed out against an entire system that has been shown to collude on behalf of rapists

How serendipitous!
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It people like this, and the Westboro Baptist types, that tend to make Christianity seem repulsive to the average American. The sad part is these folks quote scripture to justify it, so other people often the protestors, not exposed to holy scripture go and read the bible, alone and without any proper context, then they become totally turned off, and horrified by Christianity. It these idiots like this guy saying women deserved to be raped, which creates so many Atheists, and Agnostics.
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Is that what they teach you at the temple volnutt-stein?

Actually, it's Volnutt-berg.

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nvm...semi-political comment
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This is just more case in point of a comment / question I made several days ago on the thread about the RC Cardinal thinks his followers should be converting Muslims.

This type of thing is all too common from the heterodox
who pretty much make a lot of people hate Christianity

So happy to have moved away from the whack job 7th Day Adventist who continually harassed me about religion when it was obvious that he had no clue

Downtown they just beat the crap out him, broke his jaw and his phone, or maybe they stole it, can't remember now

As for this yet another repugnant heterodox interpretation of Christianity, young women in the USA, particularly on college campuses where they all too often experience rape with no consequences for the rapist, are not tolerating anymore

Who knows, perhaps the young woman had already suffered rape and just lashed out against an entire system that has been shown to collude on behalf of rapists

Yeah, cause only the heterodox are supporting despicable violence in the name of Jesus, right? 

Oh, wait: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/18/world/europe/gay-rights-rally-is-attacked-in-georgia.html?_r=0
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He was asking for it by holding that sign. The lady couldn't control herself.

 ;)

Christ did not give them what they asked for when being crucified, no, he said: Luke 23:34

The Crucifixion
…33When they came to the place called The Skull, they crucified Him there, along with the criminals, one on His right and the other on His left. 34Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” And they divided up His garments by casting lots. 35The people stood watching, and the rulers sneered at Him, saying, “He saved others; let Him save Himself if He is the Christ of God, the Chosen One.”
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It people like this, and the Westboro Baptist types, that tend to make Christianity seem repulsive to the average American. The sad part is these folks quote scripture to justify it, so other people often the protestors, not exposed to holy scripture go and read the bible, alone and without any proper context, then they become totally turned off, and horrified by Christianity. It these idiots like this guy saying women deserved to be raped, which creates so many Atheists, and Agnostics.

We are all unworthy of His love.
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This is why we are all five degrees away from being murderers, and every sin is equal in Gods eyes, controlling ourselves like God is impossible, but we are told to try if we want to be saved from Satan.
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every sin is equal in Gods eyes

I John 5.16-17.
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He was asking for it by holding that sign. The lady couldn't control herself.

 ;)

Christ did not give them what they asked for when being crucified, no, he said: Luke 23:34

The Crucifixion
…33When they came to the place called The Skull, they crucified Him there, along with the criminals, one on His right and the other on His left. 34Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” And they divided up His garments by casting lots. 35The people stood watching, and the rulers sneered at Him, saying, “He saved others; let Him save Himself if He is the Christ of God, the Chosen One.”
every sin is equal in Gods eyes

I John 5.16-17.
16If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask and God will for him give life to those who commit sin not leading to death. There is a sin leading to death; I do not say that he should make request for this. 17All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not leading to death.

      18We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him. 19We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. 20And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.

      21Little children, guard yourselves from idols.

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According to this Epistle we are instructed by St.John to ask God to help those such as this preacher who has veered off the path of life.

There is no mention of beating him with a baseball bat as you seem to agree with since he asked for it.

There is only one sin Jesus is quoted as saying is unforgivable,
Matthew 12:30-32
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30He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters. 31Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the one to come.…
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There is no mention of beating him with a baseball bat as you seem to agree with since he asked for it.

Where exactly did I express my agreement with beating someone with a baseball bat?  Please quote me.
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He was asking for it by holding that sign. The lady couldn't control herself.

 ;)

Christ did not give them what they asked for when being crucified, no, he said: Luke 23:34

The Crucifixion
…33When they came to the place called The Skull, they crucified Him there, along with the criminals, one on His right and the other on His left. 34Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” And they divided up His garments by casting lots. 35The people stood watching, and the rulers sneered at Him, saying, “He saved others; let Him save Himself if He is the Christ of God, the Chosen One.”
There is no mention of beating him with a baseball bat as you seem to agree with since he asked for it.

Where exactly did I express my agreement with beating someone with a baseball bat?  Please quote me.

What did your wink above mean? That you wink and not rebuke such a statement is why.
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He was asking for it by holding that sign. The lady couldn't control herself.

 ;)

Christ did not give them what they asked for when being crucified, no, he said: Luke 23:34

The Crucifixion
…33When they came to the place called The Skull, they crucified Him there, along with the criminals, one on His right and the other on His left. 34Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” And they divided up His garments by casting lots. 35The people stood watching, and the rulers sneered at Him, saying, “He saved others; let Him save Himself if He is the Christ of God, the Chosen One.”
There is no mention of beating him with a baseball bat as you seem to agree with since he asked for it.

Where exactly did I express my agreement with beating someone with a baseball bat?  Please quote me.

What did your wink above mean? That you wink and not rebuke such a statement is why.

I understood Iconodule's comment to be an allusion to the kind of thinking that wrongly blames women for rape.  I respect his cleverness.  I don't think either of us was actually advocating beating people with baseball bats. 

When I want to advocate that sort of retribution, I will do so clearly.   
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He was asking for it by holding that sign. The lady couldn't control herself.

 ;)

Christ did not give them what they asked for when being crucified, no, he said: Luke 23:34

The Crucifixion
…33When they came to the place called The Skull, they crucified Him there, along with the criminals, one on His right and the other on His left. 34Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” And they divided up His garments by casting lots. 35The people stood watching, and the rulers sneered at Him, saying, “He saved others; let Him save Himself if He is the Christ of God, the Chosen One.”
There is no mention of beating him with a baseball bat as you seem to agree with since he asked for it.

Where exactly did I express my agreement with beating someone with a baseball bat?  Please quote me.

What did your wink above mean? That you wink and not rebuke such a statement is why.

I understood Iconodule's comment to be an allusion to the kind of thinking that wrongly blames women for rape.  I respect his cleverness.  I don't think either of us was actually advocating beating people with baseball bats. 

When I want to advocate that sort of retribution, I will do so clearly.   

I am sorry if I misunderstood the implications, thank you.
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Physically Assaulting someone because they are exercising their constitutional right to free speech is ridiculous. I don't agree with his views but he still has the right to say what he's saying. If she didn't agree with what he was saying she should have disagreed with him in a verbal dialog. Now she will be serving time for felony assault.

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Physically Assaulting someone because they are exercising their constitutional right to free speech is ridiculous. I don't agree with his views but he still has the right to say what he's saying. If she didn't agree with what he was saying she should have disagreed with him in a verbal dialog. Now she will be serving time for felony assault.

Agreed.

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