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Would it be okay to venerate a Saint a Martyr from the 2-3 century who as far as I can tell is not officially venerated in the Orthodox Church?
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2011, 12:07:30 PM » |
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IMO yes. Who is he?
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2011, 01:42:50 PM » |
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In your private devotion you can venerate anyone you want, even non-Orthodox people you felt were holy in their lives. And Orthodox martyrs especially, that's just fine, from what I've heard.
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2011, 02:04:55 PM » |
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Ditto what has been said... yes, who is he? private devotion just fine...
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2011, 08:08:03 PM » |
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In your private devotion you can venerate anyone you want, even non-Orthodox people you felt were holy in their lives. And Orthodox martyrs especially, that's just fine, from what I've heard.
You can venerate non-Orthodox? |
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2011, 10:29:42 PM » |
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Genesius of Rome (I think I spelled that right)
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2011, 11:35:43 PM » |
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I always loved that he was the patron of barristers and clowns. |
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2011, 11:42:03 PM » |
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Genesius of Rome (I think I spelled that right)
I always loved that he was the patron of barristers and clowns. actors and magicians too |
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2011, 12:43:23 AM » |
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August 25th should be him.
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2011, 02:12:53 AM » |
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In your private devotion you can venerate anyone you want, even non-Orthodox people you felt were holy in their lives. And Orthodox martyrs especially, that's just fine, from what I've heard.
You can venerate non-Orthodox? If we are talking about people who led orthodox lives but were not officially affiliated with the Eastern Orthodox Church, then as far as I know yes (St. Isaac the Syrian is perhaps the best example). |
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2011, 02:44:15 AM » |
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In your private devotion you can venerate anyone you want, even non-Orthodox people you felt were holy in their lives. And Orthodox martyrs especially, that's just fine, from what I've heard.
You can venerate non-Orthodox? If we are talking about people who led orthodox lives but were not officially affiliated with the Eastern Orthodox Church, then as far as I know yes (St. Isaac the Syrian is perhaps the best example). I remember that a very credible rebuttal to this is contained in the lengthy introduction to Saint Isaac's "Ascetical Homilies" published by Holy Transfiguration Monastery in 1984. But it is so long since I have read it that the substance of their arguments has slipped my mind. |
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2011, 05:04:56 AM » |
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Hmm, well that's an interesting new piece of information for me.
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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2011, 07:44:31 AM » |
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looks like he's on there  Thanks Father! |
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2011, 10:54:40 AM » |
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I always loved that he was the patron of barristers and clowns.
As a lawyer, I'm chuckling over this. |
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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2011, 05:46:52 PM » |
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The OrthodoxWiki article is pretty helpful: http://orthodoxwiki.org/Genesius_of_Rome |
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2011, 05:49:21 PM » |
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I remember that a very credible rebuttal to this is contained in the lengthy introduction to Saint Isaac's "Ascetical Homilies" published by Holy Transfiguration Monastery in 1984. But it is so long since I have read it that the substance of their arguments has slipped my mind.
Interesting, whenever I get something by/about St. Isaac I will try to get this particular translation so I can read about this. |
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