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« on: April 04, 2011, 05:08:27 AM »
When we want to speak about a collection of documents by writers in the Church, usually saints, what term(s) do you think we should use? Church Fathers seems most common in Orthodox circles, but is it wrong to so commonly exclude those who were women (e.g. the desert Ammas)? Should we then say Church Fathers and Mothers? Or should we say Church Writers? Yet generally I would save a term like Church Writers or Ecclesiastical Writers for when I am including those who had a tenuous or varying relationship with the Church (e.g. Tertullian). Thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2011, 01:02:07 PM »
Quote from: Asteriktos on April 04, 2011, 05:08:27 AM
When we want to speak about a collection of documents by writers in the Church, usually saints, what term(s) do you think we should use? Church Fathers seems most common in Orthodox circles, but is it wrong to so commonly exclude those who were women (e.g. the desert Ammas)? Should we then say Church Fathers and Mothers? Or should we say Church Writers? Yet generally I would save a term like Church Writers or Ecclesiastical Writers for when I am including those who had a tenuous or varying relationship with the Church (e.g. Tertullian). Thoughts?
I've seen Fathers and Mothers used often; that's my personal preference.
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2011, 02:00:22 PM »
Quote from: NicholasMyra on April 04, 2011, 01:02:07 PM
Quote from: Asteriktos on April 04, 2011, 05:08:27 AM
When we want to speak about a collection of documents by writers in the Church, usually saints, what term(s) do you think we should use? Church Fathers seems most common in Orthodox circles, but is it wrong to so commonly exclude those who were women (e.g. the desert Ammas)? Should we then say Church Fathers and Mothers? Or should we say Church Writers? Yet generally I would save a term like Church Writers or Ecclesiastical Writers for when I am including those who had a tenuous or varying relationship with the Church (e.g. Tertullian). Thoughts?
I've seen Fathers and Mothers used often; that's my personal preference.
Fathers and Mothers is better.
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2011, 02:01:34 PM »
^ I agree.
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2011, 11:10:17 AM »
Yes from experience, I've heard church "Fathers and Mothers".

However what would we call people like Origen?  I love the way Origen writes but he's I guess technically a "heritic?"
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2011, 11:26:30 AM »

I'm reading a book entitled "Desert Fathers"...this is my Lenten bedtime reading.  I am lucky to get through 2 pages before I nod off.

However, in this Desert "Father's" book which is filled with stories from Abba this, and Abba that....I came upon an Amma Sarah.  Actually startled me...and after her was another Amma S-something.

...so it seems these "mothers" are easily incorporated into the book about the Desert "Fathers".
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