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Offline ImperfectRose

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How do you fast?
« on: March 18, 2011, 04:40:05 AM »
By fast, I don't mean Lent type of fast. I mean, just a day where you want to fast to increase your spiritual hunger for God. Do you fast both foods and beverages, including water? Or do you drink water but don't have anything else? Do you fast sweets and fried foods? Or meats? Or grains?

I'm going to start fasting on Fridays, Friday being the day of Christ's crucifixion. I think that if He can spend the day dying on a cross for me, then I can spend a day without food. I just wanted to know how you fast so I can get an idea of it. And what do you do when you fast? Do you pray more, watch less tv, etc?
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Re: How do you fast?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2011, 08:25:59 AM »
The traditional practice of the Church on days of strict fasting (such as Wednesdays and Fridays) is to abstain from food and drink until the Ninth Hour (i.e. 3p.m.), although in practice this usually means abstaining until after Vespers since the two services are normally combined. After this, one is encouraged to just eat a single meal, which should not contain any meat, eggs, dairy, fish, oil or wine.

However, how one fasts is very much a personal matter. Most do not fast as strictly as what I described above, others observe a rule much stricter than what the Church prescribes. You work out, on an individual basis and with the help of your spiritual father, what you are capable of and what will be most beneficial for your spiritual progress.

Fasting from food is only an aid to help us fast from the passions. Our fast should, therefore, also be accompanied by prayer, almsgiving, helping others, etc. Again, the extent to which we do these things is something that should be worked out on a personal basis.

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Re: How do you fast?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2011, 01:13:23 PM »
The traditional practice of the Church on days of strict fasting (such as Wednesdays and Fridays) is to abstain from food and drink until the Ninth Hour (i.e. 3p.m.), although in practice this usually means abstaining until after Vespers since the two services are normally combined. After this, one is encouraged to just eat a single meal, which should not contain any meat, eggs, dairy, fish, oil or wine.

However, how one fasts is very much a personal matter. Most do not fast as strictly as what I described above, others observe a rule much stricter than what the Church prescribes. You work out, on an individual basis and with the help of your spiritual father, what you are capable of and what will be most beneficial for your spiritual progress.

Fasting from food is only an aid to help us fast from the passions. Our fast should, therefore, also be accompanied by prayer, almsgiving, helping others, etc. Again, the extent to which we do these things is something that should be worked out on a personal basis.

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Re: How do you fast?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2011, 06:00:20 PM »
The traditional practice of the Church on days of strict fasting (such as Wednesdays and Fridays) is to abstain from food and drink until the Ninth Hour (i.e. 3p.m.), although in practice this usually means abstaining until after Vespers since the two services are normally combined. After this, one is encouraged to just eat a single meal, which should not contain any meat, eggs, dairy, fish, oil or wine.


You mean that I shouldn't wolf a salad down between the two?
I would be happy to agree with you, but then both of us would be wrong.

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Re: How do you fast?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2011, 09:14:08 PM »
start small and build up.
if you can spend one hour in prayer every friday, this is a great start and more than many (myself included) achieve. if you abstain from food and drink, abstain only till lunchtime when you first start, or start abstaining from food only, but drink water.

if you can, take advice from a priest, and use a prayer book to guide your thoughts, and study the Bible, especially the stories of Jesus' life and death and resurrection.

perhaps do a little bit more each week, then go to church on Good Friday (if you are able) and then fast and pray all day.
it is a great way to prepare for the paschal liturgy.

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Re: How do you fast?
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2011, 03:49:41 AM »
start small and build up.
if you can spend one hour in prayer every friday, this is a great start and more than many (myself included) achieve. if you abstain from food and drink, abstain only till lunchtime when you first start, or start abstaining from food only, but drink water.

if you can, take advice from a priest, and use a prayer book to guide your thoughts, and study the Bible, especially the stories of Jesus' life and death and resurrection.

perhaps do a little bit more each week, then go to church on Good Friday (if you are able) and then fast and pray all day.
it is a great way to prepare for the paschal liturgy.
Thank you for the tips. Though, I am not Orthodox yet, so going to liturgy isn't something I can do right now. :P
Psalm 57:2 "I will cry out to God Most High, To God who performs all things for me."
Psalm 62:1 "Truly my soul silently waits for God; From Him comes my salvation."
Psalm 59:9 "I will wait for You, O You his Strength; For God is my defense."
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Re: How do you fast?
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2011, 10:13:48 AM »
i went to very many orthodox liturgies before i became orthodox. it taught me very much about God  :)

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Re: How do you fast?
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2011, 02:14:24 PM »
i went to very many orthodox liturgies before i became orthodox. it taught me very much about God  :)

same here. just don't take communion.

i actually would leave during pre-sanctified when they would do the "catechumens depart!" bit.  they would say that and i would gather my things and leave.  my godfather got a kick out of that when i told him.  ;D

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Re: How do you fast?
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2011, 02:31:07 PM »

Thank you for the tips. Though, I am not Orthodox yet, so going to liturgy isn't something I can do right now. :P
??? I go to liturgy. I just don't take communion.

I think that the best way to know if Orthodoxy fits is to attend as many services as possible.

Do you mean the pre-sanctified or any services in general?
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Re: How do you fast?
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2011, 07:30:57 AM »

Thank you for the tips. Though, I am not Orthodox yet, so going to liturgy isn't something I can do right now. :P
??? I go to liturgy. I just don't take communion.

I think that the best way to know if Orthodoxy fits is to attend as many services as possible.

Do you mean the pre-sanctified or any services in general?
Well, I can't drive, and my parents won't let me go to another church in general until I'm 18, so liturgy is out of the question.
Psalm 57:2 "I will cry out to God Most High, To God who performs all things for me."
Psalm 62:1 "Truly my soul silently waits for God; From Him comes my salvation."
Psalm 59:9 "I will wait for You, O You his Strength; For God is my defense."
John 11:35 "Jesus wept."

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Re: How do you fast?
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2011, 01:09:32 PM »
Oh, I didn't know! Lord have mercy.

I think that it's great you discovered Orthodoxy so young. Stay strong! God has us go through different paths to get there, and your perseverance in studying and praying for the time being is amazing.

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Re: How do you fast?
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2011, 02:45:41 PM »

Thank you for the tips. Though, I am not Orthodox yet, so going to liturgy isn't something I can do right now. :P
??? I go to liturgy. I just don't take communion.

I think that the best way to know if Orthodoxy fits is to attend as many services as possible.

Do you mean the pre-sanctified or any services in general?
Well, I can't drive, and my parents won't let me go to another church in general until I'm 18, so liturgy is out of the question.
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Re: How do you fast?
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2011, 03:34:21 PM »
we will pray for you, please pray for us too.
i have several 'not quite orthodox' friends, so there are many with you on your journey.
may God guide you  :)

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Re: How do you fast?
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2011, 11:13:13 AM »
Fasting must be spiritual and then bodily. We have to increase our thoughts about God and try always to remember His presence.
Almighty God help us, save us and give us strength to overcome all troubles and obstacles during fasting.