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« on: March 05, 2011, 07:14:49 PM »

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The coptic catholic patriarch does wear a byzantine hat instead of the coptic one like pope shenouda III. why is this so? i thaught coptic catholic would stick to the coptic tradition.  ???i am confused Huh
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2011, 09:24:58 PM »

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The coptic catholic patriarch does wear a byzantine hat instead of the coptic one like pope shenouda III. why is this so? i thaught coptic catholic would stick to the coptic tradition.  ???i am confused Huh
The "coptic catholic patriarch" is forbidden to take the traditional Coptic title of its primate-Pope.
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2011, 01:43:08 PM »

The "coptic catholic patriarch" is forbidden to take the traditional Coptic title of its primate-Pope.
I am talking about liturgical clothing/vestments not titles! Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2011, 02:08:40 PM »

Ave Maria! Salam!
The coptic catholic patriarch does wear a byzantine hat instead of the coptic one like pope shenouda III. why is this so? i thaught coptic catholic would stick to the coptic tradition.  ???i am confused Huh

Mixing traditions is quite common in the Catholic Churches sui iuris. In the Byzantine ones one can observe some effects of Latinization and in the Oriental ones - of Latinization and/or (self-)Byzantinization.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2011, 03:01:21 PM »

Ave Maria! Salam!
The coptic catholic patriarch does wear a byzantine hat instead of the coptic one like pope shenouda III. why is this so? i thaught coptic catholic would stick to the coptic tradition.  ???i am confused Huh

Mixing traditions is quite common in the Catholic Churches sui iuris. In the Byzantine ones one can observe some effects of Latinization and in the Oriental ones - of Latinization and/or (self-)Byzantinization.
any great example?
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2011, 03:16:25 PM »

any great example?

Klobuk and kamilavka worn by some Oriental Catholic bishops.
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2011, 04:45:00 PM »

You mean like Byzantine Catholics praying the Rosary? LOL
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2011, 04:52:43 PM »

You mean like Byzantine Catholics praying the Rosary? LOL
well, chaldeans do.
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2011, 05:11:10 PM »

The "coptic catholic patriarch" is forbidden to take the traditional Coptic title of its primate-Pope.
I am talking about liturgical clothing/vestments not titles! Smiley
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