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Offline henrikhankhagnell

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oriental catholic rites
« on: March 05, 2011, 07:14:49 PM »
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The coptic catholic patriarch does wear a byzantine hat instead of the coptic one like pope shenouda III. why is this so? i thaught coptic catholic would stick to the coptic tradition.  ???i am confused ???
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Re: oriental catholic rites
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2011, 09:24:58 PM »
Ave Maria! Salam!
The coptic catholic patriarch does wear a byzantine hat instead of the coptic one like pope shenouda III. why is this so? i thaught coptic catholic would stick to the coptic tradition.  ???i am confused ???
The "coptic catholic patriarch" is forbidden to take the traditional Coptic title of its primate-Pope.
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Re: oriental catholic rites
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2011, 01:43:08 PM »
The "coptic catholic patriarch" is forbidden to take the traditional Coptic title of its primate-Pope.
I am talking about liturgical clothing/vestments not titles! :)
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Re: oriental catholic rites
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2011, 02:08:40 PM »
Ave Maria! Salam!
The coptic catholic patriarch does wear a byzantine hat instead of the coptic one like pope shenouda III. why is this so? i thaught coptic catholic would stick to the coptic tradition.  ???i am confused ???

Mixing traditions is quite common in the Catholic Churches sui iuris. In the Byzantine ones one can observe some effects of Latinization and in the Oriental ones - of Latinization and/or (self-)Byzantinization.
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Re: oriental catholic rites
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2011, 03:01:21 PM »
Ave Maria! Salam!
The coptic catholic patriarch does wear a byzantine hat instead of the coptic one like pope shenouda III. why is this so? i thaught coptic catholic would stick to the coptic tradition.  ???i am confused ???

Mixing traditions is quite common in the Catholic Churches sui iuris. In the Byzantine ones one can observe some effects of Latinization and in the Oriental ones - of Latinization and/or (self-)Byzantinization.
any great example?
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Re: oriental catholic rites
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2011, 03:16:25 PM »
any great example?

Klobuk and kamilavka worn by some Oriental Catholic bishops.

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Re: oriental catholic rites
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2011, 04:45:00 PM »
You mean like Byzantine Catholics praying the Rosary? LOL
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Re: oriental catholic rites
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2011, 04:52:43 PM »
You mean like Byzantine Catholics praying the Rosary? LOL
well, chaldeans do.
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Re: oriental catholic rites
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2011, 05:11:10 PM »
The "coptic catholic patriarch" is forbidden to take the traditional Coptic title of its primate-Pope.
I am talking about liturgical clothing/vestments not titles! :)
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