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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5760 on: September 09, 2014, 10:44:28 PM »
Shall there be no end to the constant stream of pre-raphaelites?
What, you don't like color?
Most of it is horribly sentimental.

Why do consider this (sentimentality) horrible?
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5761 on: September 09, 2014, 10:53:15 PM »
I have to say this just looks strange.


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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5762 on: September 09, 2014, 10:54:00 PM »
I have to say this just looks strange.



I agree. Why is the Vatican's symbol up there?
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5763 on: September 09, 2014, 10:54:40 PM »
Perhaps Pre-Raphaelite art is generally bad and devoid of genius, and kitsch is my way of describing sentimental, over-the-top paintings.

That's probably it.

Less is more, more is less. A maxim someone should have told the pre-raphaelites.


This reads like you got yourself into an indefensible hole. Each segment of the above phrase can be questioned. I hope you and I agree that it is not a particularly worthwhile conversation unless you are devoted to the notion.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5764 on: September 09, 2014, 10:57:41 PM »
I have to say this just looks strange.



I agree. Why is the Vatican's symbol up there?

Well, it is Catholic.

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5765 on: September 09, 2014, 10:58:04 PM »
I am fortunate the have the largest collection of pre-Raphaelite paintings in the Western hemisphere about an hour drive away from me.
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Re: Picture of the Day
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5767 on: September 09, 2014, 11:41:04 PM »


I love these!  This also works when you stare at some picture with its reverse colors for a minute, and then when you close your eyes, you see the picture in its actual colors while your eyes are closed.  Really neat trick!
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5768 on: September 10, 2014, 01:34:47 AM »
I have to say this just looks strange.



There's much to like about it, until one begins to consider all the ramifications. Oh, and until one notices a few of the glaring problems.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5769 on: September 10, 2014, 01:38:32 AM »
Shall there be no end to the constant stream of pre-raphaelites?
What, you don't like color?
Most of it is horribly sentimental.

Why do consider this (sentimentality) horrible?

The Victorian age took some of these good things and ran them into the ground for a century. Some people find it hard to look past all the kitsch -- altho, I must say, unless one has Victorian aunts or something I find it hard to comprehend how, at this late date, the era manages still to make some people so very irritable.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5770 on: September 10, 2014, 02:45:00 AM »
Llamas say yes to Scottish independence!

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5771 on: September 11, 2014, 03:39:56 AM »
Llamas say yes to Scottish independence!



It would be a shame if the Union Jack were to be torn apart.
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« Reply #5772 on: September 11, 2014, 06:50:23 AM »
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Re: Picture of the Day
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Re: Picture of the Day
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5775 on: September 11, 2014, 07:35:43 PM »
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5776 on: September 12, 2014, 01:40:21 PM »
Art reached it's height with Albrecht Durer.  Everything went downhill from there with a couple of assorted upticks.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5777 on: September 13, 2014, 11:49:49 AM »
Strangely cartoony, but also a surprisingly accurate depiction of how Coptic bishops used to be vested.
https://m1.behance.net/rendition/modules/76874979/hd/c7df96c71617de20734b6b23004e709f.jpg

EDIT: From this guy's page.
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Re: Picture of the Day
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5779 on: September 13, 2014, 01:35:40 PM »
Strangely cartoony, but also a surprisingly accurate depiction of how Coptic bishops used to be vested.
https://m1.behance.net/rendition/modules/76874979/hd/c7df96c71617de20734b6b23004e709f.jpg

EDIT: From this guy's page.

That's because the artist (I'm not sure if you want to call it iconography) is Coptic.
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Re: Picture of the Day
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5781 on: September 13, 2014, 01:39:01 PM »
That's because the artist (I'm not sure if you want to call it iconography) is Coptic.
I wouldn't call it iconography, though I would say he borrows from Coptic icons for his style. Regardless, it's nice to see a depiction of a Coptic bishop's full vestments that isn't from the first half of the last century. Bring back full vesture in the Coptic Orthodox Church!
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5782 on: September 13, 2014, 01:44:39 PM »
Strangely cartoony, but also a surprisingly accurate depiction of how Coptic bishops used to be vested.
https://m1.behance.net/rendition/modules/76874979/hd/c7df96c71617de20734b6b23004e709f.jpg

EDIT: From this guy's page.

I love these.  They look very sophisticated compared to a 'cartoon' - and they hold a depth that is very different from a cartoon.  I could look at these all day long. 
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5783 on: September 13, 2014, 01:47:18 PM »
That's because the artist (I'm not sure if you want to call it iconography) is Coptic.
I wouldn't call it iconography, though I would say he borrows from Coptic icons for his style. Regardless, it's nice to see a depiction of a Coptic bishop's full vestments that isn't from the first half of the last century. Bring back full vesture in the Coptic Orthodox Church!

Also notice the bishop all the way at the right carrying a message:  "Mia Physis tou Theo Logou Sesarkomene"...this guy has some pretty good knowledge of the Church.  He does not seem to just draw these willy nilly as if seeing other icons and creating his own style.

And he's a "Mina", so he's kool anyway ;)
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5784 on: September 13, 2014, 01:47:38 PM »
Strangely cartoony, but also a surprisingly accurate depiction of how Coptic bishops used to be vested.
https://m1.behance.net/rendition/modules/76874979/hd/c7df96c71617de20734b6b23004e709f.jpg

EDIT: From this guy's page.

That's because the artist (I'm not sure if you want to call it iconography) is Coptic.

I'd call it iconography, and I like it. Although the floating robes are a little different.


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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5785 on: September 13, 2014, 01:49:15 PM »
That's because the artist (I'm not sure if you want to call it iconography) is Coptic.
I wouldn't call it iconography, though I would say he borrows from Coptic icons for his style. Regardless, it's nice to see a depiction of a Coptic bishop's full vestments that isn't from the first half of the last century. Bring back full vesture in the Coptic Orthodox Church!

Also notice the bishop all the way at the right carrying a message:  "Mia Physis tou Theo Logou Sesarkomene"...this guy has some pretty good knowledge of the Church.  He does not seem to just draw these willy nilly as if seeing other icons and creating his own style.

And he's a "Mina", so he's kool anyway ;)

(forgive the momentary change of subject)

Mina, I noticed the artist's name is also 'Mina' is this a common name in Egypt?  What does it mean, if you don't mind my asking.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5786 on: September 13, 2014, 01:50:39 PM »
That's because the artist (I'm not sure if you want to call it iconography) is Coptic.
I wouldn't call it iconography, though I would say he borrows from Coptic icons for his style. Regardless, it's nice to see a depiction of a Coptic bishop's full vestments that isn't from the first half of the last century. Bring back full vesture in the Coptic Orthodox Church!

Also notice the bishop all the way at the right carrying a message:  "Mia Physis tou Theo Logou Sesarkomene"...this guy has some pretty good knowledge of the Church.  He does not seem to just draw these willy nilly as if seeing other icons and creating his own style.

And he's a "Mina", so he's kool anyway ;)

Just to add, the background wording is a Coptic hymn, "Megalo ArchiErevs", "The Great High Priest"...so he definitely has a message in that picture.  I like it.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5787 on: September 13, 2014, 01:53:03 PM »
Also notice the bishop all the way at the right carrying a message:  "Mia Physis tou Theo Logou Sesarkomene"...this guy has some pretty good knowledge of the Church.  He does not seem to just draw these willy nilly as if seeing other icons and creating his own style.
Yeah, I've been wondering if any of the other bishops are meant to be identifiable the way St. Cyril is in that one. Similarly, does anyone know who the man is in the picture Nephi posted, the one in green robes being trod upon by Christ and St. Cyril?
Further addendum: I absolutely love Coptic script. It's beautiful. Just thought I'd say that.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5788 on: September 13, 2014, 01:57:46 PM »
That's because the artist (I'm not sure if you want to call it iconography) is Coptic.
I wouldn't call it iconography, though I would say he borrows from Coptic icons for his style. Regardless, it's nice to see a depiction of a Coptic bishop's full vestments that isn't from the first half of the last century. Bring back full vesture in the Coptic Orthodox Church!

Also notice the bishop all the way at the right carrying a message:  "Mia Physis tou Theo Logou Sesarkomene"...this guy has some pretty good knowledge of the Church.  He does not seem to just draw these willy nilly as if seeing other icons and creating his own style.

And he's a "Mina", so he's kool anyway ;)

(forgive the momentary change of subject)

Mina, I noticed the artist's name is also 'Mina' is this a common name in Egypt?  What does it mean, if you don't mind my asking.
We have a joke in the Coptic Church.  Go to a Coptic Church, and say "Mina!" Half the men's heads will turn.

The name was popularized since Pope St. Kyrillos VI the wonder-worker, who was a hermit monk named Fr. Mina the Solitary.  His patron saint was St. Mina the martyr.  According to the story, the boy was named Mina as a reflection of the "Amen!" his mother heard from heaven.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5789 on: September 13, 2014, 02:00:04 PM »
Also notice the bishop all the way at the right carrying a message:  "Mia Physis tou Theo Logou Sesarkomene"...this guy has some pretty good knowledge of the Church.  He does not seem to just draw these willy nilly as if seeing other icons and creating his own style.
Yeah, I've been wondering if any of the other bishops are meant to be identifiable the way St. Cyril is in that one. Similarly, does anyone know who the man is in the picture Nephi posted, the one in green robes being trod upon by Christ and St. Cyril?
Further addendum: I absolutely love Coptic script. It's beautiful. Just thought I'd say that.
The "Mia Physis" part was actually written in Greek script.  The background of "Meghalo" (even though it's a Greek hymn) was written in Coptic script.  This guy seems to know his stuff.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5790 on: September 13, 2014, 02:10:37 PM »
That's because the artist (I'm not sure if you want to call it iconography) is Coptic.
I wouldn't call it iconography, though I would say he borrows from Coptic icons for his style. Regardless, it's nice to see a depiction of a Coptic bishop's full vestments that isn't from the first half of the last century. Bring back full vesture in the Coptic Orthodox Church!

Also notice the bishop all the way at the right carrying a message:  "Mia Physis tou Theo Logou Sesarkomene"...this guy has some pretty good knowledge of the Church.  He does not seem to just draw these willy nilly as if seeing other icons and creating his own style.

And he's a "Mina", so he's kool anyway ;)

(forgive the momentary change of subject)

Mina, I noticed the artist's name is also 'Mina' is this a common name in Egypt?  What does it mean, if you don't mind my asking.
We have a joke in the Coptic Church.  Go to a Coptic Church, and say "Mina!" Half the men's heads will turn.

The name was popularized since Pope St. Kyrillos VI the wonder-worker, who was a hermit monk named Fr. Mina the Solitary.  His patron saint was St. Mina the martyr.  According to the story, the boy was named Mina as a reflection of the "Amen!" his mother heard from heaven.

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5791 on: September 13, 2014, 02:14:47 PM »
This guy even knows how to draw the Christogram:



He definitely does not follow the Isaac Fanous mistake of the "index finger" "oneness" idea of iconography.
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« Reply #5792 on: September 13, 2014, 02:22:23 PM »
This guy even knows how to draw the Christogram:
What's with the letter P (I think) in front of the usual XC? And is it common in Coptic icons to just write a Alpha and Omega in Christ's halo instead of some equivalent of "Ho On"? (Also, does the text around the edge say "Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord God of Hosts, Heaven and Earth are full of Thy glory", or am I guessing wrong?)
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He definitely does not follow the Isaac Fanous mistake of the "index finger" "oneness" idea of iconography.
What's that?
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5793 on: September 13, 2014, 02:33:41 PM »
This guy even knows how to draw the Christogram:
What's with the letter P (I think) in front of the usual XC? And is it common in Coptic icons to just write a Alpha and Omega in Christ's halo instead of some equivalent of "Ho On"? (Also, does the text around the edge say "Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord God of Hosts, Heaven and Earth are full of Thy glory", or am I guessing wrong?)
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He definitely does not follow the Isaac Fanous mistake of the "index finger" "oneness" idea of iconography.
What's that?
It's the Coptic definite article "Pi", which means "The":  PiXristos=The Christ

Famous Coptic iconographer, Isaac Fanous always drew his Christ Pantrocrator icons with the index finger pointing up as if to counter the "two fingers used by diophysites".  He mistakenly took the Christogram to mean "two fingers".
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5794 on: September 13, 2014, 02:40:10 PM »
I'd call it iconography, and I like it. Although the floating robes are a little different.



Maybe there's a connection between this idea and the cappa magna.

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5795 on: September 13, 2014, 03:19:56 PM »
Similarly, does anyone know who the man is in the picture Nephi posted, the one in green robes being trod upon by Christ and St. Cyril?

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5796 on: September 13, 2014, 03:29:29 PM »
I'll take "Heretics and Heterodox" for 500, Alex!
You sound like a professional who knows what he's talking about.  That's because you are.

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5797 on: September 13, 2014, 04:51:06 PM »
Or SATs style:

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5798 on: September 14, 2014, 12:25:51 PM »


Welcome to FInland.
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But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
Leviticus 19:34

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5799 on: September 14, 2014, 01:03:03 PM »
Don't turn left. Don't turn right. Just forget you ever saw the signs.
My only weakness is, well, never mind

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5800 on: September 14, 2014, 01:06:58 PM »
Not my birdees, but cute! :)

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5801 on: September 14, 2014, 01:13:19 PM »
Virgin Mary with Child

I would be happy to agree with you, but then both of us would be wrong.

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5802 on: September 14, 2014, 04:26:08 PM »


Welcome to FInland.
LOL, that is what you might call a predicament.  :laugh:
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5803 on: September 14, 2014, 07:46:48 PM »
This guy even knows how to draw the Christogram:



He definitely does not follow the Isaac Fanous mistake of the "index finger" "oneness" idea of iconography.


I like this. This is how Ethiopian Orthodox make the sign of the Cross. The index finger and middle finger form the shape of the Cross, the thumb meets the ring and pinky fingers to symbolize the Trinity.


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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #5804 on: September 14, 2014, 08:19:57 PM »
The eyes make him look like manga.
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