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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10350 on: September 06, 2018, 01:05:06 AM »
So, do schemamonks really have a chord wrapped around their shoulders that prevents them from raising their arms? How would that work for a bishop?
?

Maybe I've misinterpreted the anavalos. I though that the chord belt that holds it in place passes over the Schemamonk/nun's upper arms so that that they can't raise their arms higher than an orantes position (because they now exist only for prayer).
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10351 on: September 06, 2018, 07:36:04 AM »
His headgar in Latin America shows, that now Old Believerism (my word) doesn't make any sens beyond Russia.

But dressing like a Byzantine emperor does make sense?
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10352 on: September 06, 2018, 07:37:05 AM »
Just stumbled upon this picture of Metropolitan Rafael (Motovilov), of the Old Calendarist RTOC. He also uses a variation of Pre-Nikonian vestments for some reason

Who will tell him not to?
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10353 on: September 06, 2018, 07:39:51 AM »
So, do schemamonks really have a chord wrapped around their shoulders that prevents them from raising their arms? How would that work for a bishop?
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Maybe I've misinterpreted the anavalos. I though that the chord belt that holds it in place passes over the Schemamonk/nun's upper arms so that that they can't raise their arms higher than an orantes position (because they now exist only for prayer).

The cord is the polystavrion, but I haven't seen a reference that it is to restrict their arm movement.  Also, I'm sure that it is still given, but it isn't seen in modern photos that I can recall.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10354 on: September 06, 2018, 03:00:55 PM »
So, do schemamonks really have a chord wrapped around their shoulders that prevents them from raising their arms? How would that work for a bishop?
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Maybe I've misinterpreted the anavalos. I though that the chord belt that holds it in place passes over the Schemamonk/nun's upper arms so that that they can't raise their arms higher than an orantes position (because they now exist only for prayer).

The cord is the polystavrion, but I haven't seen a reference that it is to restrict their arm movement.  Also, I'm sure that it is still given, but it isn't seen in modern photos that I can recall.

Oh, ok. I could be wrong. I might have read that on Wikipedia and misinterpreted something...
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10355 on: September 06, 2018, 03:01:48 PM »
Wow, it's like a smorgasbord of unfortunate implications! :laugh:



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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10356 on: September 06, 2018, 03:36:41 PM »
Wow, it's like a smorgasbord of unfortunate implications! :laugh:



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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10357 on: September 07, 2018, 08:10:37 PM »


Metropolitan Cornelius at an exhibition of Gregory Leps' icon collection. Leps is on the far right, in the grey suit.

Yes, he's wearing sunglasses indoors, and blue jeans with a sports coat. Truly Russian taste  ;)
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10358 on: September 07, 2018, 08:29:42 PM »
Wow, it's like a smorgasbord of unfortunate implications! :laugh:



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Oh dear lol...
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10359 on: September 08, 2018, 07:12:53 AM »
Yes, he's wearing sunglasses indoors, Truly Russian taste  ;)


and blue jeans with a sports coat. Truly Russian taste  ;)

I find this normal ;)
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10360 on: September 08, 2018, 12:04:24 PM »
Apologies to Dominika for being over-sensitive about the Pope Francis pic about a week ago :-[

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10361 on: September 08, 2018, 03:52:53 PM »
Apologies to Dominika for being over-sensitive about the Pope Francis pic about a week ago :-[

No problem
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10362 on: September 09, 2018, 12:13:30 AM »
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10363 on: September 09, 2018, 07:48:35 AM »
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10364 on: September 09, 2018, 06:38:08 PM »


The cushion things are podruchniks in Rogozhkoye Cemetery (Essentially Belokrinitskaya Hierarchy mother Church in Moscow).

For prostration. Also a rather pretty burst of color to a church.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10365 on: September 09, 2018, 06:51:18 PM »
Ah, I've been always dreaming about my personal prayer rug! But a bigger one, in more (of course!) oriental style.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10366 on: September 09, 2018, 07:57:25 PM »
From the bowling alley the other day. Supplies in the machine.


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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10367 on: September 11, 2018, 04:46:44 PM »
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10368 on: September 11, 2018, 04:51:04 PM »
I hate to ask, but are those real words?
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10369 on: September 11, 2018, 04:58:33 PM »
I hate to ask, but are those real words?

Yes. However I use not all of them ;)
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10370 on: September 11, 2018, 05:01:06 PM »
I hate to ask, but are those real words?

Yes. However I use not all of them ;)

Are some of them bad?
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10371 on: September 11, 2018, 05:08:20 PM »
I hate to ask, but are those real words?

Yes. However I use not all of them ;)

Are some of them bad?

No, some of them are rare, like "mitrężyć" (to waste time, to delay), we say "marnować czas" or "zwlekać".
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10372 on: September 11, 2018, 05:12:04 PM »
I hate to ask, but are those real words?

Yes. However I use not all of them ;)

Are some of them bad?

No, some of them are rare, like "mitrężyć" (to waste time, to delay), we say "marnować czas" or "zwlekać".

Whew!  I shouted all those words out of the window!

Good to know.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10373 on: September 12, 2018, 02:14:23 AM »
"For what shall it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his soul?" - Mark 8:36 (DRA)

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10374 on: September 12, 2018, 01:48:20 PM »
Not venerating that.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10375 on: September 12, 2018, 01:50:58 PM »
Not venerating that.

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10376 on: September 12, 2018, 01:57:57 PM »
Not venerating that.

"Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom." (Acts 14:22)

I’ll settle for entering a duchy then.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10377 on: September 12, 2018, 07:46:24 PM »


I have the CHiPs theme song going through my head (even though this is in Texas)...

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10378 on: September 12, 2018, 09:48:32 PM »
First time I heard that theme song in a while. It's kind of weirdly unhummable, isn't it?
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10379 on: September 12, 2018, 11:29:12 PM »
Happy shall he be, that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock. Alleluia.

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10380 on: September 13, 2018, 12:33:31 PM »
Not venerating that.
I venerate all women. I think the images are derived from Empress Theodora's attendants (I saw them in Ravenna), so they are likely Miaphysite.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10381 on: September 15, 2018, 10:14:31 AM »
Antiochian patriarch John visiting Zahle diocese (Lebanon)








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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10382 on: September 15, 2018, 10:27:16 AM »
I want to visit a church with a horse welcoming committee.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10383 on: September 15, 2018, 11:54:30 AM »
Quote from: Michael, Pope of Rome
We should fortify ourselves with the truths of the Faith. Our main focus should be to become saints. Unfortunately some spend much of their time in either trying to sort things out or what is worse, trying to convince the world that they are right. If we all aim at sanctifying ourselves, God will intervene and He will straighten things out. We cannot do it without Him.

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10384 on: September 15, 2018, 01:34:56 PM »
Before and after hand painted Romanian Orthodox Cross

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10385 on: September 15, 2018, 01:42:01 PM »
I prefer unpainted.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10386 on: September 15, 2018, 01:52:38 PM »
I am not sure which I prefer, but I like that cross.

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10387 on: September 15, 2018, 01:58:13 PM »
I prefer unpainted.

As do I. It's good craftsmanship either way.

Speaking of crosses, I found an interesting explanation for the lack of a crucified Christ on personal crosses worn under clothing:

"On the nativity/baptismal cross there is no image of the crucified Christ
The fact is that the naked cross is hidden hidden under clothing. The image of the Crucifixion would transform the cross into an icon, the icon is intended for immediate perception and prayer. Wearing an icon in the form hidden from the eyes means using it inappropriately, namely, as a magical amulet. In order to avoid a heretical attitude toward the image, on the baptismal cfoss the image is replaced by a symbol-sign-the eight-pointed Cross, only signifying the Crucifixion, but not depicting it.

This explains why pectoral crosses have a depiction of the crucifixion - because they are also icons.

More explanation:

Said in the Scripture: Everyone bears his cross. The cross is a symbol of heroism before God. The cross with the image of the crucified Christ is a symbol of the heroic deed of Christ in the name of the Lord. And such a cross is used for praying, like an icon. Your nativity cross is a symbol of your personal feat in the name of the Lord. This is the cross that you carry. Therefore, there should not be an image of Christ on it. Native crosses with a crucifixion are found, including very ancient ones, but this is the Catholic influence, where a cross with a crucifixion was adopted. Now such crosses are universally accepted in the ROC. And one more difference: on the back of the prayer cross is written a prayer: The cross is the keeper, and on the native "Let God Rise"
On the cross may be the image of your heavenly patron (naturally not crucified). This is an ancient tradition of Russian Orthodoxy, which was before the schism and was preserved among the Old Believers. But such crosses are a rarity.


Take these with a grain of salt as they were Google translated.

Some more crosses:



(Baptismal)



(Icon)

Interestingly, in old believer / non Nikonian Crosses Christ typically has his arms almost at a 90° angle as opposed to slumping.


“God,”
The words rumbled:
“There is much suffering,
But the church is alive. "

 “How long, Archpriest, are we to suffer thus?” I answered: “Until our very death, Markovna!” And she replied, with a sigh: “So be it, Petrovich, let us plod on.” - Life of Avvakum by Himself

Nastasya, Nastasya, be
patient and do not cry:
Not every happiness
Comes in the clothing of fortune.

St. Avvakum, pray for us!

St. Ambrose, pray for us!

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10388 on: September 15, 2018, 02:22:54 PM »
I prefer unpainted.

As do I. It's good craftsmanship either way.

Speaking of crosses, I found an interesting explanation for the lack of a crucified Christ on personal crosses worn under clothing:

"On the nativity/baptismal cross there is no image of the crucified Christ
The fact is that the naked cross is hidden hidden under clothing. The image of the Crucifixion would transform the cross into an icon, the icon is intended for immediate perception and prayer. Wearing an icon in the form hidden from the eyes means using it inappropriately, namely, as a magical amulet. In order to avoid a heretical attitude toward the image, on the baptismal cfoss the image is replaced by a symbol-sign-the eight-pointed Cross, only signifying the Crucifixion, but not depicting it.

This explains why pectoral crosses have a depiction of the crucifixion - because they are also icons.

More explanation:

Said in the Scripture: Everyone bears his cross. The cross is a symbol of heroism before God. The cross with the image of the crucified Christ is a symbol of the heroic deed of Christ in the name of the Lord. And such a cross is used for praying, like an icon. Your nativity cross is a symbol of your personal feat in the name of the Lord. This is the cross that you carry. Therefore, there should not be an image of Christ on it. Native crosses with a crucifixion are found, including very ancient ones, but this is the Catholic influence, where a cross with a crucifixion was adopted. Now such crosses are universally accepted in the ROC. And one more difference: on the back of the prayer cross is written a prayer: The cross is the keeper, and on the native "Let God Rise"
On the cross may be the image of your heavenly patron (naturally not crucified). This is an ancient tradition of Russian Orthodoxy, which was before the schism and was preserved among the Old Believers. But such crosses are a rarity.


Take these with a grain of salt as they were Google translated.

Some more crosses:



(Baptismal)



(Icon)

Interestingly, in old believer / non Nikonian Crosses Christ typically has his arms almost at a 90° angle as opposed to slumping.

Briven to you own one of those crosses (icon)
"Two Romes fell, a third stands, and there will not be a fourth one."-Philotheus of Pskov

Christ is risen from the dead,
Trampling down death by death,
And upon those in the tombs
Bestowing life!- Paschal troparion

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10389 on: September 15, 2018, 02:23:50 PM »
I prefer unpainted.

As do I. It's good craftsmanship either way.

Speaking of crosses, I found an interesting explanation for the lack of a crucified Christ on personal crosses worn under clothing:

"On the nativity/baptismal cross there is no image of the crucified Christ
The fact is that the naked cross is hidden hidden under clothing. The image of the Crucifixion would transform the cross into an icon, the icon is intended for immediate perception and prayer. Wearing an icon in the form hidden from the eyes means using it inappropriately, namely, as a magical amulet. In order to avoid a heretical attitude toward the image, on the baptismal cfoss the image is replaced by a symbol-sign-the eight-pointed Cross, only signifying the Crucifixion, but not depicting it.

This explains why pectoral crosses have a depiction of the crucifixion - because they are also icons.

More explanation:

Said in the Scripture: Everyone bears his cross. The cross is a symbol of heroism before God. The cross with the image of the crucified Christ is a symbol of the heroic deed of Christ in the name of the Lord. And such a cross is used for praying, like an icon. Your nativity cross is a symbol of your personal feat in the name of the Lord. This is the cross that you carry. Therefore, there should not be an image of Christ on it. Native crosses with a crucifixion are found, including very ancient ones, but this is the Catholic influence, where a cross with a crucifixion was adopted. Now such crosses are universally accepted in the ROC. And one more difference: on the back of the prayer cross is written a prayer: The cross is the keeper, and on the native "Let God Rise"
On the cross may be the image of your heavenly patron (naturally not crucified). This is an ancient tradition of Russian Orthodoxy, which was before the schism and was preserved among the Old Believers. But such crosses are a rarity.


Take these with a grain of salt as they were Google translated.

Some more crosses:



(Baptismal)



(Icon)

Interestingly, in old believer / non Nikonian Crosses Christ typically has his arms almost at a 90° angle as opposed to slumping.

Briven to you own one of those crosses (icon)

No, I found these online.
“God,”
The words rumbled:
“There is much suffering,
But the church is alive. "

 “How long, Archpriest, are we to suffer thus?” I answered: “Until our very death, Markovna!” And she replied, with a sigh: “So be it, Petrovich, let us plod on.” - Life of Avvakum by Himself

Nastasya, Nastasya, be
patient and do not cry:
Not every happiness
Comes in the clothing of fortune.

St. Avvakum, pray for us!

St. Ambrose, pray for us!

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10390 on: September 15, 2018, 02:24:41 PM »
I prefer unpainted.

As do I. It's good craftsmanship either way.

Speaking of crosses, I found an interesting explanation for the lack of a crucified Christ on personal crosses worn under clothing:

"On the nativity/baptismal cross there is no image of the crucified Christ
The fact is that the naked cross is hidden hidden under clothing. The image of the Crucifixion would transform the cross into an icon, the icon is intended for immediate perception and prayer. Wearing an icon in the form hidden from the eyes means using it inappropriately, namely, as a magical amulet. In order to avoid a heretical attitude toward the image, on the baptismal cfoss the image is replaced by a symbol-sign-the eight-pointed Cross, only signifying the Crucifixion, but not depicting it.

This explains why pectoral crosses have a depiction of the crucifixion - because they are also icons.

More explanation:

Said in the Scripture: Everyone bears his cross. The cross is a symbol of heroism before God. The cross with the image of the crucified Christ is a symbol of the heroic deed of Christ in the name of the Lord. And such a cross is used for praying, like an icon. Your nativity cross is a symbol of your personal feat in the name of the Lord. This is the cross that you carry. Therefore, there should not be an image of Christ on it. Native crosses with a crucifixion are found, including very ancient ones, but this is the Catholic influence, where a cross with a crucifixion was adopted. Now such crosses are universally accepted in the ROC. And one more difference: on the back of the prayer cross is written a prayer: The cross is the keeper, and on the native "Let God Rise"
On the cross may be the image of your heavenly patron (naturally not crucified). This is an ancient tradition of Russian Orthodoxy, which was before the schism and was preserved among the Old Believers. But such crosses are a rarity.


Take these with a grain of salt as they were Google translated.

Some more crosses:



(Baptismal)



(Icon)

Interestingly, in old believer / non Nikonian Crosses Christ typically has his arms almost at a 90° angle as opposed to slumping.

Briven to you own one of those crosses (icon)

No, I found these online.

so do you own any cross that is not a baptismal one?
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Christ is risen from the dead,
Trampling down death by death,
And upon those in the tombs
Bestowing life!- Paschal troparion

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10391 on: September 15, 2018, 02:31:22 PM »
I prefer unpainted.

As do I. It's good craftsmanship either way.

Speaking of crosses, I found an interesting explanation for the lack of a crucified Christ on personal crosses worn under clothing:

"On the nativity/baptismal cross there is no image of the crucified Christ
The fact is that the naked cross is hidden hidden under clothing. The image of the Crucifixion would transform the cross into an icon, the icon is intended for immediate perception and prayer. Wearing an icon in the form hidden from the eyes means using it inappropriately, namely, as a magical amulet. In order to avoid a heretical attitude toward the image, on the baptismal cfoss the image is replaced by a symbol-sign-the eight-pointed Cross, only signifying the Crucifixion, but not depicting it.

This explains why pectoral crosses have a depiction of the crucifixion - because they are also icons.

More explanation:

Said in the Scripture: Everyone bears his cross. The cross is a symbol of heroism before God. The cross with the image of the crucified Christ is a symbol of the heroic deed of Christ in the name of the Lord. And such a cross is used for praying, like an icon. Your nativity cross is a symbol of your personal feat in the name of the Lord. This is the cross that you carry. Therefore, there should not be an image of Christ on it. Native crosses with a crucifixion are found, including very ancient ones, but this is the Catholic influence, where a cross with a crucifixion was adopted. Now such crosses are universally accepted in the ROC. And one more difference: on the back of the prayer cross is written a prayer: The cross is the keeper, and on the native "Let God Rise"
On the cross may be the image of your heavenly patron (naturally not crucified). This is an ancient tradition of Russian Orthodoxy, which was before the schism and was preserved among the Old Believers. But such crosses are a rarity.


Take these with a grain of salt as they were Google translated.

Some more crosses:



(Baptismal)



(Icon)

Interestingly, in old believer / non Nikonian Crosses Christ typically has his arms almost at a 90° angle as opposed to slumping.

Briven to you own one of those crosses (icon)

No, I found these online.

so do you own any cross that is not a baptismal one?

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“God,”
The words rumbled:
“There is much suffering,
But the church is alive. "

 “How long, Archpriest, are we to suffer thus?” I answered: “Until our very death, Markovna!” And she replied, with a sigh: “So be it, Petrovich, let us plod on.” - Life of Avvakum by Himself

Nastasya, Nastasya, be
patient and do not cry:
Not every happiness
Comes in the clothing of fortune.

St. Avvakum, pray for us!

St. Ambrose, pray for us!

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10392 on: September 15, 2018, 02:35:43 PM »
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10393 on: September 15, 2018, 02:36:37 PM »
I prefer unpainted.
+1

Speaking of crosses, I found an interesting explanation for the lack of a crucified Christ on personal crosses worn under clothing:

Huh?

I've always had my personal cross with crucified Christ. Doesn't matter if I bought in Serbia or Poland. I mean, it's not something obligatory, but it's also not something unpresent.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #10394 on: September 15, 2018, 02:43:51 PM »
I prefer unpainted.
+1

Speaking of crosses, I found an interesting explanation for the lack of a crucified Christ on personal crosses worn under clothing:

Huh?

I've always had my personal cross with crucified Christ. Doesn't matter if I bought in Serbia or Poland. I mean, it's not something obligatory, but it's also not something unpresent.

By the lack, I meant the canonical lack in many crosses.

This may be a solely pre Nikonian Russian tradition.
“God,”
The words rumbled:
“There is much suffering,
But the church is alive. "

 “How long, Archpriest, are we to suffer thus?” I answered: “Until our very death, Markovna!” And she replied, with a sigh: “So be it, Petrovich, let us plod on.” - Life of Avvakum by Himself

Nastasya, Nastasya, be
patient and do not cry:
Not every happiness
Comes in the clothing of fortune.

St. Avvakum, pray for us!

St. Ambrose, pray for us!

My blog: http://pustozersk.blogspot.com