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Crossan is pretty dishonest as a person, his work shouldn't carry much weight.
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Is this book good? Has anyone else read it? Crossan is generally considered fairly unorthodox, but this hasn't been so bad so far. Not as dry as the other stuff by him that I've attempted either. Probably not a great book to read if you're looking for an orthodox perspective though. That's what I was thinking, he's a Catholic priest, isn't he? |
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Crossan is pretty dishonest as a person, his work shouldn't carry much weight.
He believed that God didn't exist when dinosaurs were around and then later on God existed.
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I think WLC said something like that when he had a debate with him.
And no I'm not saying that makes him dishonest.
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Is this book good? Has anyone else read it? Crossan is generally considered fairly unorthodox, but this hasn't been so bad so far. Not as dry as the other stuff by him that I've attempted either. Probably not a great book to read if you're looking for an orthodox perspective though. That's what I was thinking, he's a Catholic priest, isn't he? Crossan was ordained a priest, and so in the Catholic view is technically still a priest, but has no authority to engage in priestly acts unless it is a dire emergency and there are no other priests around (such as last rights when there are no other priests around). |
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« Reply #2438 on: June 29, 2012, 12:58:40 AM » |
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He believed that God didn't exist when dinosaurs were around and then later on God existed.
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So I bought this little gem for about a dollar for my Nook. Wow! This is such a wonderful little book. You really get the sense that this this saint really and truly cares about humanity. If any y'all have the means, go out and purchase or borrow it; you won't be disappointed!
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« Reply #2441 on: June 30, 2012, 12:29:37 PM » |
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« Reply #2442 on: June 30, 2012, 01:07:31 PM » |
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The Long Emergency - James Howard Kunstler
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« Reply #2444 on: June 30, 2012, 11:28:53 PM » |
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I've recently taken to hunting down antique books lately. Bought a 1932 Georgia (US) history textbook (the things they said about black people are almost amusing--if they weren't so incredibly ignorant and biased) from a book sale at my university; bought a book of the early speeches of Wilfird Laurier, Canadian PM from 1896-1911, that was printed in 1890; and now I just bought a volume of Montesquieu's Persian Letters that was printed in Scotland in 1773. Can't say I agree with all Montesquieu says, but he definitely had some interesting things to say.
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Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! I just finished The Hunchback of Notre-Dame. Aside from a classic, this really is an epic novel! I loved it! So funny and yet so well crafted! Such depth of imagery and casual insertion of mythic symbolism. The dialogue was superb, the narration insightful without being dry or invasive. The plot incredible. I love the combination of Church and gangster scandals, which is why one of my favorite contemporary authors is Arturo Perez-Reverte! I especially enjoyed how all the characters and events were interconnected, sometimes obviously, sometimes loosely, and how there was a syncretic blend of sociopolitical commentary merged with the sheer audacious fun of the Roman Noir era of French literature The ending was perfectly tragic as well. While I usually read novels too deeply like an English Lit teacher, I just enjoyed this one for what it was. Maybe after a second read I will reflect better on what the novel means to me and what the symbolism expresses, but for now, reading was just fun enough stay blessed, habte selassie |
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The Reactionary Mind:Conservatism from Edmund Burke to Sarah Palin by Robin Carey. It was recommended to me. Not something I would normally read, but it has been very englightening. I am thankful for the recommendation.
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« Reply #2447 on: July 04, 2012, 07:11:19 PM » |
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Well, in an attempt to cope with an increasingly great amount of boredom, I decided to peruse my book shelf and see if there was anything I hadn't finished or hadn't read for a long time, and realized that I never did get very far into An Overview of Orthodox Canon Law by Metropolitan Rodopoulos, so I'm reading that now.
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« Reply #2448 on: July 05, 2012, 02:09:34 AM » |
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« Reply #2449 on: July 05, 2012, 12:23:10 PM » |
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The Greatest Prayer: Rediscovering the Revolutionary Message of The Lord's Prayer, by John Dominic Crossan
Is this book good? Has anyone else read it? Crossan is generally considered fairly unorthodox, but this hasn't been so bad so far. Not as dry as the other stuff by him that I've attempted either. Probably not a great book to read if you're looking for an orthodox perspective though. That's what I was thinking, he's a Catholic priest, isn't he? He was at one point but left the Priesthood for a woman. I don't think he is still regarded as a Roman Catholic based on the ideas he has espoused in various interviews. |
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Well, in an attempt to cope with an increasingly great amount of boredom, I decided to peruse my book shelf and see if there was anything I hadn't finished or hadn't read for a long time, and realized that I never did get very far into An Overview of Orthodox Canon Law by Metropolitan Rodopoulos, so I'm reading that now.
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« Reply #2453 on: July 05, 2012, 01:09:48 PM » |
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Well, in an attempt to cope with an increasingly great amount of boredom, I decided to peruse my book shelf and see if there was anything I hadn't finished or hadn't read for a long time, and realized that I never did get very far into An Overview of Orthodox Canon Law by Metropolitan Rodopoulos, so I'm reading that now.
I've read that one, and it isn't a cure for boredom Lol, it's actually not bad. I'm fairly interested in the subject matter, thankfully; but, it is certainly still not something that I can spend too much continuous time reading. |
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Lol, it's actually not bad. I'm fairly interested in the subject matter, thankfully; but, it is certainly still not something that I can spend too much continuous time reading.
Well I guess as long as you like it I remember liking The Church of the Ancient Councils by Archbp. Peter (L'Huillier) more, but then that's a different type of book I suppose. |
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« Reply #2455 on: July 05, 2012, 01:38:09 PM » |
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Lol, it's actually not bad. I'm fairly interested in the subject matter, thankfully; but, it is certainly still not something that I can spend too much continuous time reading.
Well I guess as long as you like it I remember liking The Church of the Ancient Councils by Archbp. Peter (L'Huillier) more, but then that's a different type of book I suppose. I've actually been meaning to get that one. |
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« Reply #2456 on: July 05, 2012, 11:47:43 PM » |
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Just finished reading Steven Runciman's book "The Fall of Constantinople", I have to say it is extremely depressing.
The hardest part was about the looting and sacking of the city. I couldn't help but sit there and marvel at why in God's name the Emperor didn't just immediately surrender the city and abdicate his throne, it would have spared so many lives, so many innocent people, so many icons and relics, so much religious literature. They could have spirited them away to Mount Athos or Russia (which was beating back the Mongols by this point). We would still have the icon painted by St. Luke as well...
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« Reply #2458 on: July 07, 2012, 03:27:56 PM » |
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« Reply #2459 on: July 07, 2012, 03:29:56 PM » |
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« Reply #2462 on: July 09, 2012, 11:55:00 PM » |
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« Reply #2463 on: July 09, 2012, 11:58:26 PM » |
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For an exhaustive single volume treatment of German "grammar" in English, you must have the following:
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For an exhaustive single volume treatment of German "grammar" in English, you must have the following:
Does it matter if it's an older edition? Like most things, no. I have an older edition. The only difference might be the treatment of the new new orthographical reforms, but they are not that big of a deal frankly. There is no way you cannot appreciate the systematic approach of this text. It won't teach you German per se, no text will, but even with a smattering of German, the treatment of prefixes alone will enlarge your passive vocabulary enormously and active moderately. From the modal verbs, to prepositions, to even taking on the task of trying to make sense of "flavoring particles", this is the best text in English by far on German "grammer". I keep putting using quotes with "grammer" because of the many examples will teach you a lot of vocabulary and the like as well. |
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Doesn't seem that hard so far *beats chest in show of manliness* German is like that. Given the fact that English is a Germanic language at first there are a lot of cognates and all that. But as you progress within the typical register not to mention more specialized registers of German, it becomes more and more alien. Sorta like the complete opposite of Spanish. |
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Doesn't seem that hard so far *beats chest in show of manliness* German is like that. Given the fact that English is a Germanic language at first there are a lot of cognates and all that. But as you progress within the typical register not to mention more specialized registers of German, it becomes more and more alien. Darn. Well anyway, I'm going to pretend like it's a snap for as long as I can. |
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I started on I, Robot then got kind of derailed. I need to get back to it...
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That's funny. I just started reading this very book on my kindle!
The "great minds think alike" thing doesn't apply to my clan, so I'm not sure where this coincidence came from I've also been using some German audio CDs that I got from the library. It's been much easier having both visual intruction and an audio aid, even if it's not interactive. |
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That's funny. I just started reading this very book on my kindle!
The "great minds think alike" thing doesn't apply to my clan, so I'm not sure where this coincidence came from I've also been using some German audio CDs that I got from the library. It's been much easier having both visual intruction and an audio aid, even if it's not interactive. Good idea. |
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« Reply #2473 on: July 11, 2012, 12:44:52 PM » |
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Started reading Paradise Lost. Any tips on what to look for?
Two chapters in and the "on the devil's side without knowing it" charge seems misplaced. I think the times where Milton seems to be glorifying satan are more intended to be jabs at humanity, such as one passage that I read as saying that, "even the demons don't fight among their own kind like we do!"
I'm missing a few of the mythological references. I could use a guidebook. I've just got a no frills, Borders books copy. Not that I don't get what Milton was saying, but it would be nice to just look up the references for my "know-it-all dweeb" cred lol.
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« Reply #2474 on: July 11, 2012, 12:57:17 PM » |
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Two chapters in and the "on the devil's side without knowing it" charge seems misplaced. Because of the stirring speeches given by Lucifer, and the comparatively flat-footed dialogue by God, the angels, etc., some have come away with the impression that Satan is the real "hero" of the poem. I think Milton was simply being very wise in showing how truly seductive and seemingly noble evil can be. For me, Satan's conscious decision to deceive his own angels as well as Adam and Eve "who wrong me not, for him who wronged" put to rest any regard for Satan as a noble character. I'm missing a few of the mythological references. I could use a guidebook. I've just got a no frills, Borders books copy. Not that I don't get what Milton was saying, but it would be nice to just look up the references for my "know-it-all dweeb" cred lol.
Dartmouth's online Milton Reading Room has good annotations: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~milton/reading_room/pl/book_1/index.shtml |
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