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Seriously if I hear someone say 50 Shades of Grey is a good book I'm going to strangle them.
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A History of God: The 4,000 Year Quest of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, by Karen Armstrong
Save yourself the time. Guess when you have plenty though, what does it matter? She is terrible. She is not an Orthodox Christian, and she is certainly way too ecumenical and too liberal for my tastes. However, if you know this going in then you can still gain a lot from her. She is very knowledgable about religion and she is an excellent writer in my opinion. Selam I read a book of hers while waiting for a woman to get ready to go out, before I cared about Orthodoxy Christianity or being involved in anything "religious". While offering much laughter, it was terribly written. It was a helpful exercise, as I was able to quickly gauge the woman's intellectual capacity and propensity to the worst sorta liberalism, when she explained to me how interesting and "informative" the text was and how she came to better understand "religious people" especially Christians. The problem is not the ecumenicism. Aside from the writing, she belongs in the heap of trash of x studies, in this case religious studies, which doesn't properly understand its own history of thought, necessarily "Western", then attempts to reduce everything else in the world to its own uncritical understanding of its own metaphysics. No thanks. [/rant] But as they say:  Which actually is just another installment in the patronizing toward the Black Man long series of tales of Whitey Knows Best. Like I said, I've only read two of her books. One on Islam and the other was her autobiogrpahy "The Spiral Staircase." I found her writing highly readable and very informative. But then again, I am a simple man who likes to understand what I read the first time without having to read the same paragraph again and again to discern it's meaning (like I had to do with your post above.  ) Selam I, too, am a simple man. I have enjoyed a few of her books and am quite sympathetic to some of her views. |
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I am also reading this, because as a convert I am obligated to read Pelikan:  Jaroslav Pelikan examines the biblical portrait of Mary, analyzing both the New and Old Testaments to see how the bits of information provided about her were expanded into a full-blown doctrine. He explores the view of Mary in late antiquity, where the differences between Mary, the mother of Christ, and Eve, the "mother of all living," provided positive and negative symbols of women. He discusses how the Eastern church commemorated Mary and how she was portrayed in the Holy Qur'an of Islam. He explains how the paradox of Mary as Virgin Mother shaped the paradoxical Catholic view of sexuality and how Reformation rejection of the worship of Mary allowed her to be a model of faith for Protestants. He considers also her role in political and social history. He analyzes the place of Mary in literature—from Dante, Spenser, and Milton to Wordsworth, George Eliot, and Goethe—as well as in music and art, and he describes the miraculous apparitions of Mary that have been experienced by the common people. |
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If you could describe Ayn Rand and Objectivism, what would it be?
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« Reply #2399 on: June 12, 2012, 12:31:03 PM » |
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If you could describe Ayn Rand and Objectivism, what would it be?
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Satanism without the Satan stuff. That's better than what I was going to go with, which is, "The asshole you hate the most in this story is supposed to be the one to which you look up." Nice I do not know her entire philosophy other than that she seems basically a free market economist and and an atheist. The book "We the Living" was adapted to an Italian movie in 1942 & eventually banned by the fascists since it was inherently anti totalitarian. To be anti communist & anti fascist does not seem to bad . Guess I will have to investigate further. Coming out of russia an atheist after 1917 (or any time?) seems understandable.. |
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Satanism without the Satan stuff. That's better than what I was going to go with, which is, "The asshole you hate the most in this story is supposed to be the one to which you look up." Nice I do not know her entire philosophy other than that she seems basically a free market economist and and an atheist. This is hardly the top of the iceberg, but: "My views on charity are very simple. I do not consider it a major virtue and, above all, I do not consider it a moral duty. There is nothing wrong in helping other people, if and when they are worthy of the help and you can afford to help them. I regard charity as a marginal issue.What I am fighting is the idea that charity is a moral duty and a primary virtue."
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Satanism without the Satan stuff. That's better than what I was going to go with, which is, "The asshole you hate the most in this story is supposed to be the one to which you look up." Nice I do not know her entire philosophy other than that she seems basically a free market economist and and an atheist. This is hardly the top of the iceberg, but: "My views on charity are very simple. I do not consider it a major virtue and, above all, I do not consider it a moral duty. There is nothing wrong in helping other people, if and when they are worthy of the help and you can afford to help them. I regard charity as a marginal issue.What I am fighting is the idea that charity is a moral duty and a primary virtue."
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If so, it should be given to all young males within the Church to mount near their beds. It would substantially decrease the frequency of "self harm" threads on oc.net. For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs after seeing the Ayn Rand centerfold. |
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I am also reading this, because as a convert I am obligated to read Pelikan:
Just because you're a convert does not oblige you to read the books of other converts. Don't get me wrong: I like Pelikan's History of Doctrine series, but I don't read him because he's a convert like me. And, at the risk of sounding parochial, most books written from the convert perspective, I really cannot stand, especially Frederica Matthewes Greene and Clark Carlton to name a few. |
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I am also reading this, because as a convert I am obligated to read Pelikan:
Just because you're a convert does not oblige you to read the books of other converts. Don't get me wrong: I like Pelikan's History of Doctrine series, but I don't read him because he's a convert like me. I was being tongue-in-cheek, of course. I am reading Pelikan because it is a subject in which I am interested, and he writes about the history of doctrine without the hackneyed polemic of some. FWIW, I'm fairly certain Mary through the Centuries was written before his official conversion. Jesus through the Centuries certainly was. And, at the risk of sounding parochial, most books written from the convert perspective, I really cannot stand, especially Frederica Matthewes Greene and Clark Carlton to name a few.
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Radical Son: A Generational Odyssey by David Horowitz http://www.amazon.com/Radical-Son-A-Generational-Odyssey/dp/0684840057Very well written and hard to put down. I'm really enjoying it so far. Selam
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"Salvation is free, but not easy. It is completely dependent upon the grace of God, and yet we must work it out with fear and trembling. It is given to all, but only a few find it. We are saved only by His Cross, and yet not without taking up our own." +GMK+
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« Reply #2423 on: June 21, 2012, 05:10:55 PM » |
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Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards.
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O chant unto our God, chant ye; chant unto our King, chant ye.
For God is king of all the earth, O chant ye with understanding.
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« Reply #2424 on: June 21, 2012, 09:22:01 PM » |
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If you could describe Ayn Rand and Objectivism, what would it be?
As a person who recently read We the Living and is almost finished with Atlas Shrugged, Rand preached autolatry. Pure and simple. The books are hymns of adoration to the self, punctuated periodically by boring sex scenes. Now, understand: when I say the books celebrate self-worship, I don't mean that self-worship is "under the surface" or "the root of it all" or something like that. It's very much on the surface; she preached it largely without hypocrisy. That's what makes her so evil. |
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Miami's Theme Song (Spongebob): Who lives in Miami right by the sea? LeBron James! Absorbent and bald and selfish is he. LeBron James! If not being clutch be somethin' ya wish. LeBron James! Then drop on the floor and flop like a fish.
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« Reply #2425 on: June 21, 2012, 09:47:20 PM » |
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^ Thanks for your insight. Remember that scene in Crime and Punishment where Raskonliv has that dream about the horse being beaten to death? Am I deranged if I was laughing the entire time because of how cruel it was? I almost took in some pleasure by reading it. I'm reading this:  |
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« Reply #2426 on: June 21, 2012, 10:09:52 PM » |
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Thanks a bunch, orthonorm. I now have the Diff'rent Strokes theme song stuck in my head  Reading The Trial, Don Rosa's The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck, and a book about the Russian Revolution in preparation for class in the fall (just the last one, though having to read all three of them would make for an interesting class). |
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I'm not posting on oc.net for the time being. Thank you to everyone for your support!
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"The only-begotten Son of God, wanting us to be partakers of his divinity, assumed our human nature so that, having become man, he might make men gods." - St. Thomas Aquinas
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« Reply #2428 on: June 22, 2012, 12:48:54 AM » |
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The Greatest Prayer: Rediscovering the Revolutionary Message of The Lord's Prayer, by John Dominic Crossan
Is this book good? Has anyone else read it? |
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Renewal during the first month of the new ecclesiastical calendar! |
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« Reply #2429 on: June 22, 2012, 12:52:21 AM » |
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"Frozen Moment," Camilla Ceder.
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