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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3420 on: October 24, 2013, 09:54:59 PM »
Walker Percy - "Love in the Ruins"

I found it entertaining.  That reminds me - I have someone in mind to pass it on to, I better get on that.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3421 on: October 24, 2013, 10:13:21 PM »
after conversations like this-which aren't rare- I vent off by swearing out loud in Romanian, for minutes. people that witness it I'm sure think i'm crazy.

Are there any good recordings online of Romanian swearing?  Yours is an interesting language, at least based on my exposure to it at the Romanian parish I adopted as my own in the last city in which I lived.  I'd like to explore some of the other neighbourhoods, so to speak.  
well, is there a better example than a monk cursing out loud?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTu6oV_Za_8
I don't even know what's going on but this is funny.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3422 on: October 24, 2013, 10:45:39 PM »
after conversations like this-which aren't rare- I vent off by swearing out loud in Romanian, for minutes. people that witness it I'm sure think i'm crazy.

Are there any good recordings online of Romanian swearing?  Yours is an interesting language, at least based on my exposure to it at the Romanian parish I adopted as my own in the last city in which I lived.  I'd like to explore some of the other neighbourhoods, so to speak.  
well, is there a better example than a monk cursing out loud?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTu6oV_Za_8
I don't even know what's going on but this is funny.

Is the next step in theosis?
he's swearing at pretty much every sacred name or object, as Romaios explained above.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3423 on: October 24, 2013, 10:59:47 PM »
I don't even know what's going on but this is funny.

Is the next step in theosis?

I think there was a problem with the monk's visa and a customs official was rude to him (insinuated that he came to Romania/was going to Turkey to get laid).

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3424 on: October 24, 2013, 11:02:26 PM »
Judging by his demeanor there is no reason to believe  he'd have to travel that far to merely get laid.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3425 on: October 24, 2013, 11:18:34 PM »
Judging by his demeanor there is no reason to believe  he'd have to travel that far to merely get laid.

He had a foreign (American?) passport and he was saying he had paid 20$ for his visa which expired in 3 months. Somebody had just told him that his monastic habit made no difference or so.

In Romania there are plenty of dubious monks begging for donations for some remote monastery to be built (they usually show a picture on a piece of cardboard and they put your names down for liturgies in exchange for money). You find them in malls, airports, markets or other public places. The Patriarchate, however, repeatedly disavowed all mendicants and forbade such practices. Some say these monks and nuns are Old Calendarists, but it's more likely they are just charlatans. This guy was cursing the (Romanian) Church and the Patriarch.   
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3426 on: October 25, 2013, 12:05:54 AM »
Are there any good recordings online of Romanian swearing?  Yours is an interesting language, at least based on my exposure to it at the Romanian parish I adopted as my own in the last city in which I lived.  I'd like to explore some of the other neighbourhoods, so to speak. 

Youtube's full of them. Don't watch if you plan on communing any time soon.  ;)

The only impediment to my communing lately is the chit chat about breasts that inevitably pops up here on Saturday evenings.  Swearing in languages I don't know is child's play. 
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3427 on: October 25, 2013, 12:34:56 AM »
English Translation of Timaeus / Plato.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3428 on: October 25, 2013, 12:41:30 AM »
English Translation of Timaeus / Plato.

It's mystifying to me that this particular dialogue gets so much attention.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3429 on: October 25, 2013, 12:52:40 AM »
English Translation of Timaeus / Plato.

It's mystifying to me that this particular dialogue gets so much attention.

Habent sua fata libelli. This was all of Plato Westerners could read for centuries...

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3430 on: October 25, 2013, 02:57:03 PM »
English Translation of Timaeus / Plato.

It's mystifying to me that this particular dialogue gets so much attention.
???

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3431 on: October 25, 2013, 03:11:27 PM »
English Translation of Timaeus / Plato.

It's mystifying to me that this particular dialogue gets so much attention.

Habent sua fata libelli. This was all of Plato Westerners could read for centuries...

Non sufficientis causa. The later Greek Platonists as well as the Arabs were totally obsessed by the Timaeus.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3432 on: October 25, 2013, 03:20:35 PM »
English Translation of Timaeus / Plato.

It's mystifying to me that this particular dialogue gets so much attention.
???

It's just a long-winded wildly speculative quasi-Pythagorean old-hat fairy tale. The really profound dialogues are Theaetetus and Parmenides...arguably Cratylus as well, even if the etymologies are silly.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3433 on: October 25, 2013, 07:25:02 PM »
The mythology and specific theories aside, the Timaeus lays out the basic Platonic approach to contemplating nature.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3434 on: October 26, 2013, 10:50:12 PM »
Habent sua fata libelli. This was all of Plato Westerners could read for centuries...

Non sufficientis causa. The later Greek Platonists as well as the Arabs were totally obsessed by the Timaeus.

You probably meant "that's not reason enough".  :P If so, the cases don't agree...

Non constat or non liquet would work better.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3435 on: October 27, 2013, 07:40:26 AM »
English Translation of Timaeus / Plato.

It's mystifying to me that this particular dialogue gets so much attention.

I guess it's because of the Atlantis story.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3436 on: October 27, 2013, 08:16:27 AM »
Shakespeare - Romeo and Juliet
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3437 on: October 27, 2013, 05:39:39 PM »
Habent sua fata libelli. This was all of Plato Westerners could read for centuries...

Non sufficientis causa. The later Greek Platonists as well as the Arabs were totally obsessed by the Timaeus.

You probably meant "that's not reason enough".  :P If so, the cases don't agree...

Non constat or non liquet would work better.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3439 on: October 27, 2013, 06:07:44 PM »
Life of Wagner...



“I believe in God, Mozart and Beethoven, and likewise their disciples and apostles; - I believe in the Holy Spirit and the truth of the one, indivisible Art; - I believe that this Art proceeds from God, and lives within the hearts of all illumined men; - I believe that he who once has bathed in the sublime delights of this high Art, is consecrate to Her for ever, and never can deny Her; - I believe that through Art all men are saved.”

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3440 on: October 27, 2013, 06:39:10 PM »
Life of Wagner...



“I believe in God, Mozart and Beethoven, and likewise their disciples and apostles; - I believe in the Holy Spirit and the truth of the one, indivisible Art; - I believe that this Art proceeds from God, and lives within the hearts of all illumined men; - I believe that he who once has bathed in the sublime delights of this high Art, is consecrate to Her for ever, and never can deny Her; - I believe that through Art all men are saved.”

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Germany is now the fertile soil of pantheism. This is the religion of our greatest thinkers, of our best artists, and in Germany deism, as I shall presently explain, was long ago theoretically destroyed. No one says it, but every one knows it : pantheism is the open secret of Germany. We have, in fact, outgrown deism. We are free, and we want no thundering tyrants; we have reached majority and can dispense with paternal care. Neither are we the work of a great mechanician. Deism is a religion for slaves, for children, for Genevese, for watchmakers. Pantheism is the occult religion of Germany.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3441 on: October 28, 2013, 06:02:05 AM »
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3442 on: October 28, 2013, 06:03:17 AM »
Romaios,  ;D there are different approaches towards God... especially in the world of art
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3443 on: October 28, 2013, 08:49:27 PM »
Sam Taylor, Nightfall at Navoo (finished reading).

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3444 on: October 29, 2013, 04:53:12 PM »
Shakespeare - Henry V

What a shame that I haven't read much of Shakespeare yet.
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« Reply #3445 on: October 29, 2013, 05:06:37 PM »
Shakespeare - Henry V

What a shame that I haven't read much of Shakespeare yet.
he bored me whenever I attempted. not saying it's his fault but reading plays in general bores me, except for some absurd theater.
Should edit this by saying that Corneille and Racine were a bit more tolerable but that was back in high-school anyways.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3446 on: October 29, 2013, 05:25:35 PM »
Shakespeare - Henry V

What a shame that I haven't read much of Shakespeare yet.
he bored me whenever I attempted. not saying it's his fault but reading plays in general bores me, except for some absurd theater.
Should edit this by saying that Corneille and Racine were a bit more tolerable but that was back in high-school anyways.

Probably best to see plays produced than read them, unless you are doing so for academic reasons, or they are closet dramas or whatever they are called.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3447 on: October 29, 2013, 05:29:28 PM »
Shakespeare - Henry V

What a shame that I haven't read much of Shakespeare yet.
he bored me whenever I attempted. not saying it's his fault but reading plays in general bores me, except for some absurd theater.
Should edit this by saying that Corneille and Racine were a bit more tolerable but that was back in high-school anyways.

Probably best to see plays produced than read them, unless you are doing so for academic reasons, or they are closet dramas or whatever they are called.
lots of classical lit is just pre-television soap operas and  the like

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« Reply #3448 on: October 29, 2013, 05:33:41 PM »
Shakespeare - Henry V

What a shame that I haven't read much of Shakespeare yet.
he bored me whenever I attempted. not saying it's his fault but reading plays in general bores me, except for some absurd theater.
Should edit this by saying that Corneille and Racine were a bit more tolerable but that was back in high-school anyways.

Probably best to see plays produced than read them, unless you are doing so for academic reasons, or they are closet dramas or whatever they are called.
lots of classical lit is just pre-television soap operas and  the like

Hey, I live in the city that birthed the soap opera. It's our greatest achievement.

I think the literature of the petit bourgeois could be argued to fall into this category, especially the stuff that was meant primarily for consumption by women. Really most of classic lit. is really bad Masterpiece Theater, which I guess is redundant.
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« Reply #3449 on: October 29, 2013, 05:34:28 PM »
^ Trouble is Shakespeare ain't as easy as Racine, Corneille, not to speak of absurd theatre and soap operas. He requires too much concentration to be (well) understood. It may well be a case of sour grapes...
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« Reply #3450 on: October 29, 2013, 05:36:19 PM »
^ Trouble is Shakespeare ain't as easy as Racine, Corneille, not to speak of absurd theatre and soap operas. He requires too much concentration to be (well) understood. It may well be a case of sour grapes...

Really? I think the problem with Shakespeare is that he is already understood given that everyone has already read him whether they have or not.

It takes some serious vision to make Shakespeare not come off as tired.
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« Reply #3451 on: October 29, 2013, 05:37:44 PM »
And Romeo, we can see where you stand in terms of your appreciation of Shakespeare with a single question:

What is his greatest play?

Really there is only one answer.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3452 on: October 29, 2013, 05:39:06 PM »
Racine as far as French classics go, is their Shakespeare.

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« Reply #3453 on: October 29, 2013, 05:42:20 PM »
Racine as far as French classics go, is their Shakespeare.

The French have no Shakespeare. No one does.

You simply cannot find another figure anywhere who had such an impact on the language and culture of a people in modernity.

The Germans will say Goethe, and perhaps he is the closest I've ever come across.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3454 on: October 29, 2013, 05:42:47 PM »
Really? I think the problem with Shakespeare is that he is already understood given that everyone has already read him whether they have or not.

That's why I said well understood.

It takes some serious vision to make Shakespeare not come off as tired.

As Augustin implied, how he comes off may depend more on the audience which - at this point in history - is chronically tired.

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« Reply #3455 on: October 29, 2013, 05:47:04 PM »
anyways i claim no great insight when it comes  playwrights . not much of an interest for me.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3456 on: October 29, 2013, 05:49:56 PM »
What is his greatest play?

Really there is only one answer.

I like King Lear best. I haven't read them all...

Because our school was named after him, our teachers demanded early on that we know at least one of his sonnets by heart. I think I learned Sonnet 18 before I even knew what the words meant... 
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« Reply #3457 on: October 29, 2013, 05:50:16 PM »
I was finishing up One Flew Over the Onion Dome by Father Joseph Huneycutt, but I've back-burnered that, as I checked a book out from my church library and want to make sure I can get through it before it's due back.  So now I'm reading Christ in His Saints by Father Patrick Henry Reardon.  

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« Reply #3458 on: October 29, 2013, 05:50:51 PM »
anyways i claim no great insight when it comes  playwrights . not much of an interest for me.

Yeah, I had to read plays and worse yet screenplays.

Not the most interesting material and I am a sucker for plot and dialog.

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« Reply #3459 on: October 29, 2013, 05:52:26 PM »
well of course, The Sonnets are adifferent matter altogether. even someone as lacking in nepsis as me, can appreciate them.

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« Reply #3460 on: October 29, 2013, 05:52:42 PM »
What is his greatest play?

Really there is only one answer.

I like King Lear best. I haven't read them all...

Because our school was named after him, our teachers demanded early on that we knew at least one of his sonnets by heart. I learned Sonnet 18 before I even knew what the words meant...  

Wow.

See, King Lear is what I used to say. Back when I thought Wagner was awesome.

About the same time I realized I didn't hate Mozart anymore and saw his genius was of an order more wonderful than the old Nazi's, I also realized The Tempest was Shakespeare best play.
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« Reply #3461 on: October 29, 2013, 05:53:44 PM »
well of course, The Sonnets are adifferent matter altogether. even someone as lacking in nepsis as me, can appreciate them.

And yet I can't read a single one.

Speaking of which, I gotta get back to Iconodule's comment about that one hack.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3462 on: October 29, 2013, 05:54:34 PM »
collins? or whatever

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« Reply #3463 on: October 29, 2013, 05:55:53 PM »
i like full fathom five. iirc was put to music by britten?

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« Reply #3464 on: October 29, 2013, 05:56:23 PM »
collins? or whatever

Yeah, I listened to an interview with him the other day. It was awful.
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