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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5400 on: August 26, 2017, 01:35:38 AM »
Cat propaganda. So good!
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5401 on: August 26, 2017, 07:02:43 AM »
From the Holy Mountain: A Journey in the Shadow of Byzantium by William Dalrymple translated into Polish.
In Polish translation there is a mess with the Orthodox terminology: Syriacs are called "ortodoksi" while Greeks are called "prawosławni" - in fact both term mean "Orthodox". In one place an Armenian or Greek temple is called "kościół" (in Polish it's used mainly for Roman Catholics churches, sometimes also for Protestant ones, but they have their own term: "zbór"), while in another it's called "cerkiew" (Eastern Christian church; in the past that was the name also for RC churches).

Anyway, it's amazing to read e.g about peacful Syria in 90s, with Christians being 20% of the population, a talk with Aleppian metropolitan Yohanna Ibrahim that was captured 4 years ago and so on...

I forgot to quote the author's talk with one of the Athonites monks, that's in quite beginning of the book:

Monk: Are you a heretic or an Orthodox?
The author: I'm a Catholic.
Monk: Oh my God. I'm so sorry...
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5402 on: August 26, 2017, 09:52:36 AM »
From the Holy Mountain: A Journey in the Shadow of Byzantium by William Dalrymple translated into Polish.
In Polish translation there is a mess with the Orthodox terminology: Syriacs are called "ortodoksi" while Greeks are called "prawosławni" - in fact both term mean "Orthodox". In one place an Armenian or Greek temple is called "kościół" (in Polish it's used mainly for Roman Catholics churches, sometimes also for Protestant ones, but they have their own term: "zbór"), while in another it's called "cerkiew" (Eastern Christian church; in the past that was the name also for RC churches).

Anyway, it's amazing to read e.g about peacful Syria in 90s, with Christians being 20% of the population, a talk with Aleppian metropolitan Yohanna Ibrahim that was captured 4 years ago and so on...

I forgot to quote the author's talk with one of the Athonites monks, that's in quite beginning of the book:

Monk: Are you a heretic or an Orthodox?
The author: I'm a Catholic.
Monk: Oh my God. I'm so sorry...

LOL, I read this book while in seminary and had a love/hate relationship with it, but some of those conversations were nice.  It's been a while, but in either the conversation you quoted from or another, the author is talking to a monk (I think at Mar Saba in the Holy Land?) and IIRC the monk says that on the Last Day he'll be watching the author floating in a river of fire on his way to hell alongside the Pope, Freemasons, and other non-Orthodox like himself.  So funny. 
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5403 on: August 26, 2017, 10:03:49 AM »
Wow, I've got to see that conversation
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5404 on: August 26, 2017, 12:28:31 PM »
It might be the section in his Byzantine Fathers books: http://www.roacusa.org/htdocs/Orthodox%20School/Patrology/The%20Byzantine%20Fathers%20of%20the%206-8%20Centuries,%20Fr.%20George%20Floro.doc#_Toc47795105
Thank you very much, this is excellent. I never read anything by Fr. Florovsky before but I really enjoy the way he writes (assuming I'm not reading a translation). I wish his writings were available in print.

Just finished the sections on the saint and I can't imagine how difficult it was for Fr. Maximos Constas to translate him since much of his writing is in a fragmented acerbic nature, engulfed in allegories, eschewed a formal theological system, wanting depth over breadth, etc.

But man the section on his theology is so profound, especially on the Logos and the Incarnation. Beautiful stuff.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5405 on: August 26, 2017, 01:39:18 PM »
From the Holy Mountain: A Journey in the Shadow of Byzantium by William Dalrymple translated into Polish.
In Polish translation there is a mess with the Orthodox terminology: Syriacs are called "ortodoksi" while Greeks are called "prawosławni" - in fact both term mean "Orthodox". In one place an Armenian or Greek temple is called "kościół" (in Polish it's used mainly for Roman Catholics churches, sometimes also for Protestant ones, but they have their own term: "zbór"), while in another it's called "cerkiew" (Eastern Christian church; in the past that was the name also for RC churches).

Anyway, it's amazing to read e.g about peacful Syria in 90s, with Christians being 20% of the population, a talk with Aleppian metropolitan Yohanna Ibrahim that was captured 4 years ago and so on...

I forgot to quote the author's talk with one of the Athonites monks, that's in quite beginning of the book:

Monk: Are you a heretic or an Orthodox?
The author: I'm a Catholic.
Monk: Oh my God. I'm so sorry...

LOL, I read this book while in seminary and had a love/hate relationship with it, but some of those conversations were nice.  It's been a while, but in either the conversation you quoted from or another, the author is talking to a monk (I think at Mar Saba in the Holy Land?) and IIRC the monk says that on the Last Day he'll be watching the author floating in a river of fire on his way to hell alongside the Pope, Freemasons, and other non-Orthodox like himself.  So funny.

Oh, for now, I have quite the same feeling ;)
I haven't reached the moment of the coversation you mentioned, it will be interesting :D
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5406 on: August 26, 2017, 01:41:17 PM »
From the Holy Mountain: A Journey in the Shadow of Byzantium by William Dalrymple translated into Polish.
In Polish translation there is a mess with the Orthodox terminology: Syriacs are called "ortodoksi" while Greeks are called "prawosławni" - in fact both term mean "Orthodox". In one place an Armenian or Greek temple is called "kościół" (in Polish it's used mainly for Roman Catholics churches, sometimes also for Protestant ones, but they have their own term: "zbór"), while in another it's called "cerkiew" (Eastern Christian church; in the past that was the name also for RC churches).

Anyway, it's amazing to read e.g about peacful Syria in 90s, with Christians being 20% of the population, a talk with Aleppian metropolitan Yohanna Ibrahim that was captured 4 years ago and so on...

I forgot to quote the author's talk with one of the Athonites monks, that's in quite beginning of the book:

Monk: Are you a heretic or an Orthodox?
The author: I'm a Catholic.
Monk: Oh my God. I'm so sorry...

LOL, I read this book while in seminary and had a love/hate relationship with it, but some of those conversations were nice.  It's been a while, but in either the conversation you quoted from or another, the author is talking to a monk (I think at Mar Saba in the Holy Land?) and IIRC the monk says that on the Last Day he'll be watching the author floating in a river of fire on his way to hell alongside the Pope, Freemasons, and other non-Orthodox like himself.  So funny.

Oh, for now, I have quite the same feeling ;)
I haven't reached the moment of the coversation you mentioned, it will be interesting :D

That anecdote was the inspiration behind this post
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5407 on: August 26, 2017, 07:33:13 PM »
Works of Mary Wollstonecraft

Interesting precursory socialism and feminism from an 18th century woman using overwrought prose? ???

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5408 on: September 02, 2017, 02:37:30 PM »
This. Sequel to "Tennison." Hopefully the end won't be as depressing as the first.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5409 on: September 08, 2017, 11:44:54 PM »
Got a lot of reading done with my time off. Kierkegaard and St. Mother Maria of Paris (may her memory be eternal!).
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5410 on: September 09, 2017, 02:15:13 AM »
St. Mother Maria of Paris (may her memory be eternal!).

It already is.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5411 on: September 09, 2017, 02:52:51 PM »
Pilate and Jesus, by Giorgio Agamben. Gonna finish this one a friend sent me in the mail and then proceed to The Way to Nicea by Fr. John Behr (a merciful boon from Mor Ephrem).
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« Reply #5412 on: September 09, 2017, 03:05:23 PM »
The Way to Nicea by Fr. John Behr (a merciful boon from Mor Ephrem).

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5413 on: September 09, 2017, 03:56:01 PM »
It already is.
Oops :police:

Pilate and Jesus, by Giorgio Agamben
Let me know if this is worth checking out.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5414 on: September 09, 2017, 04:20:16 PM »
The Literature of Georgia, Donald Rayfield

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5415 on: September 09, 2017, 04:59:39 PM »
Tesla: Inventor of the Electrical Age by W. Bernard Carlson
Ready Player One by Ernest Cline
Genesis (in Chap 1 currently)
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5416 on: September 10, 2017, 11:44:31 AM »
It already is.
Oops :police:

Pilate and Jesus, by Giorgio Agamben
Let me know if this is worth checking out.
It is! Agamben is great, and he doesn't go all critical on this particular short work.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5417 on: September 13, 2017, 10:58:18 AM »
Existentialism is a Humanism by Sartre, it was OK, easy read, an idea or two worth pondering but the way he conceives of "existentialism" seems way too superficial. I didn't read an introduction or background to it, so I assume he was quickly writing an essay to refute critics hence why it isn't as dense as his Being and Nothingness is. I wish Isa would finish that draft of his where he appropriates this essay in a Christian reading.

However I do thank Sartre for helping me think away from hard determinism. I'm not sure I agree completely with his notion of free will. To what can we measure how free we are in relation to environmental and psychological factors? I side more with nurture over nature, the former determining each of our destinies outside of our control. From this view, I'd say we don't have freedom. Even the choices we make, as Sartre conceives of it, is still imbued with some deterministic quality. I might be totally wrong here though. In the end I might side with Kierkegaard in that faith allows for true freedom to be manifested. We can go beyond what is finite but only in Christ, and I'm not a humanist in that this is always the case for humans are in a limited way always transcending. My conviction is a Christian is radically different than other existing humans in the world.

Anyway enough of this dumb rambling. And perfect timing to this is I did start reading Fear and Trembling by KierkegaardJohannes de silentio last night. So, so good. I finished Practice in Christianity last week, Sickness Unto Death on Monday and now I am devouring everything he has written under his pseudonyms. I'm obsessed. Finally a thinker that is able to articulate so well what is in my heart! I briefly encountered Kierkegaard years ago when I bumbled into Orthodoxy but never got into his writings. I have missed out. I want to read Philosophical Fragments and Concluding Postcript after F&T.

I'll have to try to make room for Orthodox Dogmatic Theology somewhere, since we are having discussions on it with my priest. But we've taken a break to watch Church History videos, thankfully. Once a fire has been kindled in my mind, it's hard to cool the flames to direct my attention to something else...
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5418 on: September 13, 2017, 11:11:43 AM »
St. Mother Maria of Paris.

The Essential Writings publication?
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5419 on: September 13, 2017, 11:54:24 AM »
St. Mother Maria of Paris.

The Essential Writings publication?
Yeah it's fantastic, if not incredibly depressing the circumstances she was in.
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« Reply #5420 on: September 13, 2017, 12:40:32 PM »
Just got out "Odd Numbers" by Anne Holt. Still haven't finished her book "Beyond the Truth," but I'll try and wrap that up soon.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5421 on: September 13, 2017, 12:50:11 PM »
The Literature of Georgia, Donald Rayfield

I've been wanting to pick that up. I read his history of Georgia and it read like a professor's lecture outline, but I hear the literature book is much, much better.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5422 on: September 13, 2017, 12:50:30 PM »
"The Dreams in the Witch House" by HP Lovecraft
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5423 on: September 13, 2017, 02:10:53 PM »
Newman's Apologia, which is kind of weird since I don't have the belligerent publication to which he was responding for context.
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« Reply #5424 on: September 13, 2017, 02:13:50 PM »
St. Mother Maria of Paris.

The Essential Writings publication?
Yeah it's fantastic, if not incredibly depressing the circumstances she was in.

Agreed.

I'd be interested in finding a collection of her poetry.

As a related aside, I gave my daughter the name Rosemary in honor of Mother Maria.
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« Reply #5425 on: September 13, 2017, 02:19:58 PM »
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5426 on: September 13, 2017, 02:36:09 PM »
Of Orthodox books I've lately been reading The Gurus, Young Man and Elder Paisios by Dionysios Farasiotis. I've read some teachings of Elder Paisios before but he seemed like angry old Greek man with overt nostalgy for his childhood. This book on the other hand tells more of him instead of his teaching which I can stomach much better.

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« Reply #5427 on: September 13, 2017, 05:47:53 PM »
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5428 on: September 15, 2017, 12:10:32 AM »
Modern Orthodox Thinkers by Fr. Andrew Louth. Wonderful book.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5429 on: September 15, 2017, 09:27:28 AM »
Of Orthodox books I've lately been reading The Gurus, Young Man and Elder Paisios by Dionysios Farasiotis. I've read some teachings of Elder Paisios before but he seemed like angry old Greek man with overt nostalgy for his childhood. This book on the other hand tells more of him instead of his teaching which I can stomach much better.

I read this book some years ago and didn't get much from it. It was being pushed as an Orthodox answer to Hinduism in general as well as New Age spirituality, but the man's experience is very specific. The particular groups he studies with are not very representative and many Hindus are not on board with the Babaji phenomenon. The book also makes no real attempt to address doctrinal differences between Christianity and the various Hindu schools, and centers around supernatural experiences. We have no idea what the guru teaches, only that he has powerful and dangerous command of his disciples. This could give the impression that groups that are not so scary and controlling are therefore okay.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5430 on: September 15, 2017, 09:49:23 AM »
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5431 on: September 15, 2017, 11:47:52 PM »
Of Orthodox books I've lately been reading The Gurus, Young Man and Elder Paisios by Dionysios Farasiotis. I've read some teachings of Elder Paisios before but he seemed like angry old Greek man with overt nostalgy for his childhood. This book on the other hand tells more of him instead of his teaching which I can stomach much better.

I read this book some years ago and didn't get much from it. It was being pushed as an Orthodox answer to Hinduism in general as well as New Age spirituality, but the man's experience is very specific. The particular groups he studies with are not very representative and many Hindus are not on board with the Babaji phenomenon. The book also makes no real attempt to address doctrinal differences between Christianity and the various Hindu schools, and centers around supernatural experiences. We have no idea what the guru teaches, only that he has powerful and dangerous command of his disciples. This could give the impression that groups that are not so scary and controlling are therefore okay.

While those are valid criticisms, I very much enjoyed the book. I thought it was well written and basically a true horror story with a redemptive Orthodox Christian message. I got chills reading it. So I give it an A+ for pure story telling and entertainment value. I give it a C for theological depth. And I give it an A for it's depiction of the reality of spiritual warfare.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5432 on: September 15, 2017, 11:50:43 PM »
Of Orthodox books I've lately been reading The Gurus, Young Man and Elder Paisios by Dionysios Farasiotis. I've read some teachings of Elder Paisios before but he seemed like angry old Greek man with overt nostalgy for his childhood. This book on the other hand tells more of him instead of his teaching which I can stomach much better.

I read this book some years ago and didn't get much from it. It was being pushed as an Orthodox answer to Hinduism in general as well as New Age spirituality, but the man's experience is very specific. The particular groups he studies with are not very representative and many Hindus are not on board with the Babaji phenomenon. The book also makes no real attempt to address doctrinal differences between Christianity and the various Hindu schools, and centers around supernatural experiences. We have no idea what the guru teaches, only that he has powerful and dangerous command of his disciples. This could give the impression that groups that are not so scary and controlling are therefore okay.

Let us read a book called Elder Paisios and Sri Aurobindo.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5433 on: September 16, 2017, 09:28:59 PM »
Can someone help me out with finding something in Kierkegaard's work? I can't remember where I read it, but K was commenting on how Christians can get into debating all sorts of hypothetical scenarios. Like the Gospel doesn't clearly tell you what to do in x situation, but you could get into endless arguments on what one should do in that situation. K had a clever solution to this problem but I can't recall what it was. He kind of mocked Christians that did this.

The only reason I'm asking is because I witness this pretty often from someone but K's advice might be helpful. I think there is enough in the Gospel that is clear but maybe I'm wrong.
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« Reply #5434 on: September 18, 2017, 06:25:11 PM »
Found this in my bookcase. Probably going to read it again soon.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5435 on: September 18, 2017, 10:52:48 PM »
Orthodox Dogmatic Theology - Fr. Pomazansky

Ugh I really don't like reading this text. Today I was listening to a lecture course on Orthodox Dogmatics by Metr. Jonah who made a distinction between theologies in the 19th-20th centuries. He said, on the one hand there's the neo-patristic synthesis which blossomed in the Paris School by exiled Russian intellectuals (Lossky, Berdyaev, Bulgakov etc). On the other are theologians using a very old fashioned scholastic approach, that relied on non-critical Latin translations of the Greek Fathers. In contrast, the neo-patristic theologians wanted to go beyond the inherited scholasticm and deeper into the ancient Greek sources and Fathers.

So I'm going to guess Fr. Pomazansky is more from the traditional approach, filtering Orthodoxy thru Vatican Latin translated texts. This section is painful to read:

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Our reason demands the acknowledgement in God of a whole series of essential attributes. Reason tells us that God has a rational, free, and personal existence. If in the imperfect world we see free and rational personal beings, we cannot fail to recognize a free and rational personal existence in God Himself, who is the Source, Cause, and Creator of all life. Reason tells us that God is a most perfect Being. Every lack and imperfection are incompatible with the concept of “God.” Reason tells us that the most perfect Being can be only singular: God is One. There cannot be two perfect beings, since one would limit the other. Reason tells us that God is a self-existing Being, since nothing can be the cause or condition of the existence of God.
The attributes of God. (Part I. God in Himself - 1. Our knowledge of God)
http://www.intratext.com/IXT/ENG0824/_PM.HTM

As Iconodule mentioned before about Fr. Pomazansky missing the link between the icons and the Incarnation, here too is he missing the link between epistemology and the Incarnation. Knowledge of God must start with the Incarnation and nowhere else. Looking at the table of contents, under "Our Knowledge of God":

The dogma of faith.
Belief or faith as an attribute of the soul.
The power of faith.
The source of faith.
The nature of our knowledge of God
The essence of God.
The attributes of God.
Sacred Scripture concerning the attributes of God.
God is Spirit.
Eternal.
All-Good.
Omniscient.
All-Righteous.
Almighty (Omnipotent).
Omnipresent.
Unchangeable.
Self-Sufficing and All-Blessed.
The unity of God.

To my mind, St. Justin Popovich in his Man and the God-Man nullifies the above theology in the first two chapters. Lossky's Mystical Theology in the Eastern Church and Met. John Zizoulas' Being as Communion further expound brilliantly on the relation to Christ, His Church and man.

I had a feeling I wasn't going to be impressed by it because Fr. Seraphim Rose translated it, who I hardly agree with him on anything.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5436 on: September 19, 2017, 04:08:19 PM »
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5437 on: September 21, 2017, 02:24:37 PM »
It might be the section in his Byzantine Fathers books: http://www.roacusa.org/htdocs/Orthodox%20School/Patrology/The%20Byzantine%20Fathers%20of%20the%206-8%20Centuries,%20Fr.%20George%20Floro.doc#_Toc47795105
Thank you very much, this is excellent. I never read anything by Fr. Florovsky before but I really enjoy the way he writes (assuming I'm not reading a translation). I wish his writings were available in print.

Just finished the sections on the saint and I can't imagine how difficult it was for Fr. Maximos Constas to translate him since much of his writing is in a fragmented acerbic nature, engulfed in allegories, eschewed a formal theological system, wanting depth over breadth, etc.

But man the section on his theology is so profound, especially on the Logos and the Incarnation. Beautiful stuff.

I just picked up Fr Maximos' translation of the Ambigua, volume 1. Have you read that yet? I'm kind of excited to get started on it.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5438 on: September 22, 2017, 02:20:44 PM »
I just picked up Fr Maximos' translation of the Ambigua, volume 1. Have you read that yet? I'm kind of excited to get started on it.
No I haven't started. Please let me know what you think (maybe start up a review thread if you want to). I'm more excited to read what you find insightful or enriching lol.

Right now I'm going through Orthodox Dogmatic Theology by Fr. Pomazansky as this is the text my priest wants us to read, those in the adult education class (which is just two people, my godparent and I lol). As I'm reading the chapter on the Holy Trinity, I am also reading Being as Communion in tandem which to me I think His Eminence John makes the best argument I've read as to why the Holy Trinity matters.

I'm also reviewing some of the Divine Services stuff in the Law of God as well as referencing The Divine Banquet by Fr. Hatzidakis. Before I go to sleep, I am reading through the Way of the Pilgrim.

The more I read Orthodox books, the more and more I just fall in love with the faith.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5439 on: September 22, 2017, 02:23:03 PM »
BTW, can anyone point me in the direction of a good book on St Seraphim of Sarov? The texts I saw on amazon seem incomplete but I could be wrong. My priest said something about a saint who wrote a book on St. Seraphim that came directly from him. I don't know the name.
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« Reply #5440 on: September 22, 2017, 02:33:47 PM »
BTW, can anyone point me in the direction of a good book on St Seraphim of Sarov? The texts I saw on amazon seem incomplete but I could be wrong. My priest said something about a saint who wrote a book on St. Seraphim that came directly from him. I don't know the name.

I'm a little unclear here. Are you looking for a biography, or stuff that he wrote/ said himself? For the former, I believe the book by Fr. Lazarus Moore (currently printed with the title An Extraordinary Peace) is supposed to be the best. In any case it's the one I read. Apart from his biography it also includes some accounts of miracles attributed to him and also his famous conversation with Motovilov.

In terms of his teaching, I believe everything recorded from him is collected in the Little Russian Philokalia, Volume 1. I also think most or all of this material is included in Fedotov's A Treasury of Russian Spirituality.
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« Reply #5441 on: September 22, 2017, 03:01:26 PM »
BTW, can anyone point me in the direction of a good book on St Seraphim of Sarov? The texts I saw on amazon seem incomplete but I could be wrong. My priest said something about a saint who wrote a book on St. Seraphim that came directly from him. I don't know the name.

I'm a little unclear here. Are you looking for a biography, or stuff that he wrote/ said himself? For the former, I believe the book by Fr. Lazarus Moore (currently printed with the title An Extraordinary Peace) is supposed to be the best. In any case it's the one I read. Apart from his biography it also includes some accounts of miracles attributed to him and also his famous conversation with Motovilov.

In terms of his teaching, I believe everything recorded from him is collected in the Little Russian Philokalia, Volume 1. I also think most or all of this material is included in Fedotov's A Treasury of Russian Spirituality.
Thanks a lot. Sorry for being unclear, yeah I'm looking for what St. Seraphim said/wrote than a biography. I'll take a look at those two.
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« Reply #5442 on: September 22, 2017, 03:07:35 PM »
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“A goose to hatch the Crystal Egg after an Eagle had half-hatched it! Aye, aye, to be sure, that’s right,” said the Old Woman of Beare. “And now you must go find out what happened to it. Go now, and when you come back I will give you your name.”
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5443 on: September 22, 2017, 03:46:59 PM »
The Orthodox Veneration of the Mother of God by St. John Maximovitch

Nice to read something non-academic and kind of devotional dogmatics. I've often wondered the real spiritual use of dogmatics but this book a lot different to how Orthodox is usually presented at least for Westerners.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5444 on: September 25, 2017, 04:40:42 PM »
The Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church by Vladimir Lossky
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