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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5130 on: January 18, 2017, 06:48:11 PM »
I like the content but the translation itself is terribly wooden IMO. It serves in my mind as a prime example of how neo-Elizabethan prose is not necessarily more musical or poetic than contemporary English.

And you would translate it better?  How many languages do you know and/or conversant in?

Since when is translation an excuse for poor English style? Or are you saying Saint Ephraim's originals are badly written too?

Since you failed to answer the question I put to you I'm going to assume the answer is zero.  I just love how people who do not know any language other than their own feel that they can just complain about translations as if they know jack squat as to what goes into translation be it from  Syriac to Greek, Greek to Russian,Russian to English (as in the case with this particular Psalter) or German to Swahili, Hebrew to Chinese, etc.

I know Syriac, have helped translate liturgical texts into English for the Church, and I agree with Iconodule. 
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5131 on: January 18, 2017, 07:37:26 PM »
I like the content but the translation itself is terribly wooden IMO. It serves in my mind as a prime example of how neo-Elizabethan prose is not necessarily more musical or poetic than contemporary English.

And you would translate it better?  How many languages do you know and/or conversant in?

Since when is translation an excuse for poor English style? Or are you saying Saint Ephraim's originals are badly written too?

Since you failed to answer the question I put to you I'm going to assume the answer is zero.  I just love how people who do not know any language other than their own feel that they can just complain about translations as if they know jack squat as to what goes into translation be it from  Syriac to Greek, Greek to Russian,Russian to English (as in the case with this particular Psalter) or German to Swahili, Hebrew to Chinese, etc.

I know Syriac, have helped translate liturgical texts into English for the Church, and I agree with Iconodule.

Your credentials/background  are not in question. Iconodule's are. He doesn't have a good basis for which to frame an opinion, any opinion on translation.  If he simply commented upon the English style (which is a different basis of criticism), fine and dandy. But, since he took issue with translation, I called him out on his lack of expertise.  I believe you have done the same for me on a number of occasions (justified and not).
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5132 on: January 19, 2017, 01:07:38 AM »
I like the content but the translation itself is terribly wooden IMO. It serves in my mind as a prime example of how neo-Elizabethan prose is not necessarily more musical or poetic than contemporary English.

And you would translate it better?  How many languages do you know and/or conversant in?

Since when is translation an excuse for poor English style? Or are you saying Saint Ephraim's originals are badly written too?

Since you failed to answer the question I put to you I'm going to assume the answer is zero.  I just love how people who do not know any language other than their own feel that they can just complain about translations as if they know jack squat as to what goes into translation be it from  Syriac to Greek, Greek to Russian,Russian to English (as in the case with this particular Psalter) or German to Swahili, Hebrew to Chinese, etc.

I know Syriac, have helped translate liturgical texts into English for the Church, and I agree with Iconodule.

Your credentials/background  are not in question. Iconodule's are. He doesn't have a good basis for which to frame an opinion, any opinion on translation.  If he simply commented upon the English style (which is a different basis of criticism), fine and dandy. But, since he took issue with translation, I called him out on his lack of expertise.  I believe you have done the same for me on a number of occasions (justified and not).

I guess I didn't take his criticism as being so much about the translation (from another language) as about the translation (the finished, English language product in its own right). 
Please don't project meta-debates onto me.

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The erection of one’s rod counts as a form of glory (Theophylaktos of Ohrid, A Defense of Eunuchs, p. 329).

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5133 on: January 19, 2017, 08:53:01 AM »
I like the content but the translation itself is terribly wooden IMO. It serves in my mind as a prime example of how neo-Elizabethan prose is not necessarily more musical or poetic than contemporary English.

And you would translate it better?  How many languages do you know and/or conversant in?

Since when is translation an excuse for poor English style? Or are you saying Saint Ephraim's originals are badly written too?

Since you failed to answer the question I put to you I'm going to assume the answer is zero.  I just love how people who do not know any language other than their own feel that they can just complain about translations as if they know jack squat as to what goes into translation be it from  Syriac to Greek, Greek to Russian,Russian to English (as in the case with this particular Psalter) or German to Swahili, Hebrew to Chinese, etc.

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Iconodule, Such commentaries to another forumer are not allowed in this section, moreover it has nothing to do with any review. I am giving you 10% of warning.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5134 on: January 19, 2017, 08:54:08 AM »
I like the content but the translation itself is terribly wooden IMO. It serves in my mind as a prime example of how neo-Elizabethan prose is not necessarily more musical or poetic than contemporary English.

And you would translate it better?  How many languages do you know and/or conversant in?

Since when is translation an excuse for poor English style? Or are you saying Saint Ephraim's originals are badly written too?

Since you failed to answer the question I put to you I'm going to assume the answer is zero.  I just love how people who do not know any language other than their own feel that they can just complain about translations as if they know jack squat as to what goes into translation be it from  Syriac to Greek, Greek to Russian,Russian to English (as in the case with this particular Psalter) or German to Swahili, Hebrew to Chinese, etc.

I know Syriac, have helped translate liturgical texts into English for the Church, and I agree with Iconodule.

Your credentials/background  are not in question. Iconodule's are. He doesn't have a good basis for which to frame an opinion, any opinion on translation.  If he simply commented upon the English style (which is a different basis of criticism), fine and dandy. But, since he took issue with translation, I called him out on his lack of expertise.  I believe you have done the same for me on a number of occasions (justified and not).

I guess I didn't take his criticism as being so much about the translation (from another language) as about the translation (the finished, English language product in its own right).

Right, you only need to know English and English literature to see if something is in poor English. A good translation respects the language it's in as much as the language it's from. Of course if Scam only reads Breitbart articles then this translation must look like a masterpiece.
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“A goose to hatch the Crystal Egg after an Eagle had half-hatched it! Aye, aye, to be sure, that’s right,” said the Old Woman of Beare. “And now you must go find out what happened to it. Go now, and when you come back I will give you your name.”
- from The King of Ireland's Son, by Padraic Colum

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5135 on: January 19, 2017, 09:59:11 AM »
I'm going on a trip right now. I'm taking with me The Orthodox Church (Met. Kallistos of Diokleia), Meditations (Marcus Aurelius, translation by George Long), a manual on Civil law, and a short introduction to Modern Greek.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5136 on: January 19, 2017, 11:37:41 AM »
I'm going on a trip right now. I'm taking with me The Orthodox Church (Met. Kallistos of Diokleia), Meditations (Marcus Aurelius, translation by George Long), a manual on Civil law, and a short introduction to Modern Greek.

Leave room for a Bible.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5137 on: January 19, 2017, 01:00:31 PM »
I like the content but the translation itself is terribly wooden IMO. It serves in my mind as a prime example of how neo-Elizabethan prose is not necessarily more musical or poetic than contemporary English.

And you would translate it better?  How many languages do you know and/or conversant in?

Since when is translation an excuse for poor English style? Or are you saying Saint Ephraim's originals are badly written too?

Since you failed to answer the question I put to you I'm going to assume the answer is zero.  I just love how people who do not know any language other than their own feel that they can just complain about translations as if they know jack squat as to what goes into translation be it from  Syriac to Greek, Greek to Russian,Russian to English (as in the case with this particular Psalter) or German to Swahili, Hebrew to Chinese, etc.

I know Syriac, have helped translate liturgical texts into English for the Church, and I agree with Iconodule.

Your credentials/background  are not in question. Iconodule's are. He doesn't have a good basis for which to frame an opinion, any opinion on translation.  If he simply commented upon the English style (which is a different basis of criticism), fine and dandy. But, since he took issue with translation, I called him out on his lack of expertise.  I believe you have done the same for me on a number of occasions (justified and not).

I guess I didn't take his criticism as being so much about the translation (from another language) as about the translation (the finished, English language product in its own right).

Right, you only need to know English and English literature to see if something is in poor English. A good translation respects the language it's in as much as the language it's from.

Right. For example, the NASB is a perfectly serviceable Bible, but it reads like someone's lawyer did the work.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5138 on: January 19, 2017, 01:59:37 PM »
Right, you only need to know English and English literature to see if something is in poor English. A good translation respects the language it's in as much as the language it's from.

Right. For example, the NASB is a perfectly serviceable Bible, but it reads like someone's lawyer did the work.

I like the NASB as a translation for study, but not for liturgical use. 
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5139 on: January 26, 2017, 12:08:30 AM »
The same boy who sold me the Summa Theologica in English in a hard cover (GBWW's version, I think it's complete) for 10 BRL (about 3 USD) last Monday sold me today a German dictionary from 90 years ago for 5 BRL and gave me a rare and historically important translation of the Bible for free (probably just because the inner part of the cover was kinda bad).
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5140 on: January 26, 2017, 02:52:26 AM »
Samuel Huntington's Clash of Civilizations I read the original article and watched him on Youtube, so I thought I'd read the full book.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5141 on: January 26, 2017, 10:20:13 AM »
Heart of Darkness again. Just perfection. Not bad for a guy who didn't speak English till his 20's.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5142 on: January 26, 2017, 10:24:03 AM »
Harvard Law course materials on copyright. 'Splodey head, but a geekgasm.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5143 on: January 26, 2017, 12:59:33 PM »
A Room Full of Bones by Elly Griffith. I like the series.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5144 on: January 27, 2017, 10:04:22 AM »
The True Significance of Sacred Tradition and Its Great Worth: A Nineteenth Century Orthodox Response to Roman Catholic and Protestant Missionaries in the East by St. Raphael of Brooklyn, translated from the Greek by Fr. Patrick Viscuso.  I had it on pre-order for the longest, and it just arrived.  From the little bit I have read so far, it is a great blessing for the modern Orthodox world, especially as it pertains to addressing the penetration of heterodox theology and practice in jurisdictions like the Coptic Church.  I plan to write a more comprehensive review later, and I encourage everyone - especially my fellow Oriental Orthodox in jurisdictions plagued by Protestant influence - to read it.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5145 on: January 28, 2017, 12:05:25 AM »
My very first second-reading of Charles Dickens, "The Pickwick Papers".
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5146 on: January 28, 2017, 02:06:14 AM »
A collection of the Sherlock Holmes mysteries. I have a Kindle text that contains everything Sir Arthur Conan Doyle ever wrote about our good friends Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson of 221B Baker Street.

Also, Luther's Small Catechism (again). I believe that it should be memorised at Confirmation (which it usually is). But I ALSO believe that it should be reviewed regularly as a discipline to maintain that memory. Since entering the Church, I have been appalled at how ignorant people are of the Confessions generally ("only Pastors read that!" they say), which may be understandable given that they ARE a bit intense. But its even more revolting when you realise how lacking people are in knowledge even of the Small Catechism. Its like after Confirmation they never pick up a copy again!

I am quite curious to ask: I know that Chrismation is generally done at birth. But I also know that the Orthodox do teach the young people their Faith. May I know how this is done?  Are young persons catechised in the way that Lutherans and Catholics traditionally have been? And if not, how IS it done?


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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5147 on: January 29, 2017, 09:07:26 PM »
The Sorrow of War by Bao Ninh (semi-autobiographical novel from a North Vietnamese veteran of the American war)
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5148 on: January 29, 2017, 09:15:54 PM »
The True Significance of Sacred Tradition and Its Great Worth: A Nineteenth Century Orthodox Response to Roman Catholic and Protestant Missionaries in the East by St. Raphael of Brooklyn, translated from the Greek by Fr. Patrick Viscuso.  I had it on pre-order for the longest, and it just arrived.  From the little bit I have read so far, it is a great blessing for the modern Orthodox world, especially as it pertains to addressing the penetration of heterodox theology and practice in jurisdictions like the Coptic Church.  I plan to write a more comprehensive review later, and I encourage everyone - especially my fellow Oriental Orthodox in jurisdictions plagued by Protestant influence - to read it.
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This is a sincere compliment. I like how you get into the issue and spread knowledge about his book. Main places I know of offhand where Catholics and Protestants made huge inroads into the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox communities was in India (OOs) and Ukraine, Syria, Palestine (EOs).
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5149 on: January 29, 2017, 10:52:29 PM »
The True Significance of Sacred Tradition and Its Great Worth: A Nineteenth Century Orthodox Response to Roman Catholic and Protestant Missionaries in the East by St. Raphael of Brooklyn, translated from the Greek by Fr. Patrick Viscuso.  I had it on pre-order for the longest, and it just arrived.  From the little bit I have read so far, it is a great blessing for the modern Orthodox world, especially as it pertains to addressing the penetration of heterodox theology and practice in jurisdictions like the Coptic Church.  I plan to write a more comprehensive review later, and I encourage everyone - especially my fellow Oriental Orthodox in jurisdictions plagued by Protestant influence - to read it.
I like that you write reviews.
This is a sincere compliment. I like how you get into the issue and spread knowledge about his book. Main places I know of offhand where Catholics and Protestants made huge inroads into the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox communities was in India (OOs) and Ukraine, Syria, Palestine (EOs).

The book is a treasure.  It has the original text - written in a very elegant Greek which is a pleasure to read, sort of like reading the Fathers.  It also has a fine English translation, and commentary on the theological school at Halki at which St. Raphael was a student, and the circumstances under which Protestant and Catholic "missionaries" were plaguing the Orthodox population of the Ottoman Near East.  I'll post more when I can.  Right now, suffice it to say that there are pearls of wisdom the contemporary Oriental Orthodox Churches bedeviled by heterodox influence could greatly benefit from.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5150 on: January 31, 2017, 02:14:23 AM »
"The Bazaar of Heracleides: Nestorius of Constantinople" - with a forward by our very own Fr. Peter Farrington, I presume.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5151 on: January 31, 2017, 09:05:10 AM »
'The Orthodox Church' by Bp. Kallistos Ware
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« Reply #5152 on: January 31, 2017, 01:43:46 PM »
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5154 on: February 02, 2017, 02:40:05 PM »
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5155 on: February 02, 2017, 03:42:55 PM »
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5156 on: February 02, 2017, 04:56:45 PM »
Rereading and reading anew old hard boiled pulp: starting with Hammet's The Thin Man, following with Chandler's The Big Sleep (two of my favorite movies, never read the novels before though)
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5157 on: February 02, 2017, 05:01:42 PM »
Rereading and reading anew old hard boiled pulp: starting with Hammet's The Thin Man, following with Chandler's The Big Sleep (two of my favorite movies, never read the novels before though)

The Big Sleep is practically unrecognizable.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5158 on: February 02, 2017, 05:22:22 PM »
Rereading and reading anew old hard boiled pulp: starting with Hammet's The Thin Man, following with Chandler's The Big Sleep (two of my favorite movies, never read the novels before though)

I read The Long Goodbye years ago, don't remember much but I wholly enjoyed it.
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- from The King of Ireland's Son, by Padraic Colum

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5159 on: February 02, 2017, 05:30:11 PM »
Rereading and reading anew old hard boiled pulp: starting with Hammet's The Thin Man, following with Chandler's The Big Sleep (two of my favorite movies, never read the novels before though)

I read The Long Goodbye years ago, don't remember much but I wholly enjoyed it.

same here, that was one impetus that drove me to this, the other was going through a film noir movie kick. I think I also have something in my head telling me that the 1930's were one of the better decades for Hollywood, and working with literature like this is one reason why. 
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5160 on: February 02, 2017, 05:33:49 PM »
Rereading and reading anew old hard boiled pulp: starting with Hammet's The Thin Man, following with Chandler's The Big Sleep (two of my favorite movies, never read the novels before though)

The Big Sleep is practically unrecognizable.

Intersting. I just watched To Have and Have Not, which I think I like more than Casablanca, but it was nothing like the Hemmingway novel from what I remember.  Interestingly, it was William Faulkner who did the script and rewrite.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5161 on: February 02, 2017, 05:41:08 PM »
Heart of Darkness again. Just perfection. Not bad for a guy who didn't speak English till his 20's.

I was thinking of making a thread along the lines of "what we read in school"....I couldn't remember if this was an assigned book or not.  I know I read it and loved it, I'm not sure if I did it on my own.  Regardless, it should be a standard assigned to boys somewhere during 6th-9th grade.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5162 on: February 02, 2017, 05:48:20 PM »
Heart of Darkness again. Just perfection. Not bad for a guy who didn't speak English till his 20's.

I was thinking of making a thread along the lines of "what we read in school"....I couldn't remember if this was an assigned book or not.  I know I read it and loved it, I'm not sure if I did it on my own.  Regardless, it should be a standard assigned to boys somewhere during 6th-9th grade.

I had to read it in 12th grade but was not in the right mindset to appreciate it unfortunately. That was generally the case with a lot of assigned books for me.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5163 on: February 02, 2017, 05:54:36 PM »
Rereading and reading anew old hard boiled pulp: starting with Hammet's The Thin Man, following with Chandler's The Big Sleep (two of my favorite movies, never read the novels before though)

I read The Long Goodbye years ago, don't remember much but I wholly enjoyed it.

same here, that was one impetus that drove me to this, the other was going through a film noir movie kick. I think I also have something in my head telling me that the 1930's were one of the better decades for Hollywood, and working with literature like this is one reason why.

Another book I enjoyed along these lines was Cornell Woolrich's Rendezvous in Black which, as far as I know, has never been filmed (some of his other books were).

I love noir films. My favorites tend to be on the later end (40's to late 50's). Double Indemnity, Nightmare Alley, Gun Crazy, Out of the Past...
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- from The King of Ireland's Son, by Padraic Colum

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5164 on: February 02, 2017, 07:29:53 PM »
Rereading and reading anew old hard boiled pulp: starting with Hammet's The Thin Man, following with Chandler's The Big Sleep (two of my favorite movies, never read the novels before though)

Nice!  I'm doing a Hammett re-read-a-thon myself.  I've just finished Red Harvest,, The Dain Curse, and The Maltese Falcon.  Working my way through The Glass Key right now and The Thin Man is next on my list.  I'll go back the Chandler after that.

Rereading and reading anew old hard boiled pulp: starting with Hammet's The Thin Man, following with Chandler's The Big Sleep (two of my favorite movies, never read the novels before though)

The Big Sleep is practically unrecognizable.

The book and the film each of their own charm.  Bogart's performance is one of the best of his career.  He embodies Marlowe.

Rereading and reading anew old hard boiled pulp: starting with Hammet's The Thin Man, following with Chandler's The Big Sleep (two of my favorite movies, never read the novels before though)

I read The Long Goodbye years ago, don't remember much but I wholly enjoyed it.

+1

Farewell, My Lovely is also excellent.

I think I also have something in my head telling me that the 1930's were one of the better decades for Hollywood, and working with literature like this is one reason why.

+1

Rereading and reading anew old hard boiled pulp: starting with Hammet's The Thin Man, following with Chandler's The Big Sleep (two of my favorite movies, never read the novels before though)

I read The Long Goodbye years ago, don't remember much but I wholly enjoyed it.

same here, that was one impetus that drove me to this, the other was going through a film noir movie kick. I think I also have something in my head telling me that the 1930's were one of the better decades for Hollywood, and working with literature like this is one reason why.

Another book I enjoyed along these lines was Cornell Woolrich's Rendezvous in Black which, as far as I know, has never been filmed (some of his other books were).

I love noir films. My favorites tend to be on the later end (40's to late 50's). Double Indemnity, Nightmare Alley, Gun Crazy, Out of the Past...

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5166 on: February 04, 2017, 03:29:35 AM »
Just skimming through and reading OC.net at a quick glance.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5167 on: February 04, 2017, 04:57:42 AM »
I like the content but the translation itself is terribly wooden IMO. It serves in my mind as a prime example of how neo-Elizabethan prose is not necessarily more musical or poetic than contemporary English.

And you would translate it better?  How many languages do you know and/or conversant in?

Since when is translation an excuse for poor English style? Or are you saying Saint Ephraim's originals are badly written too?

Since you failed to answer the question I put to you I'm going to assume the answer is zero.  I just love how people who do not know any language other than their own feel that they can just complain about translations as if they know jack squat as to what goes into translation be it from  Syriac to Greek, Greek to Russian,Russian to English (as in the case with this particular Psalter) or German to Swahili, Hebrew to Chinese, etc.

I know Syriac, have helped translate liturgical texts into English for the Church, and I agree with Iconodule.

Your credentials/background  are not in question. Iconodule's are. He doesn't have a good basis for which to frame an opinion, any opinion on translation.  If he simply commented upon the English style (which is a different basis of criticism), fine and dandy. But, since he took issue with translation, I called him out on his lack of expertise.  I believe you have done the same for me on a number of occasions (justified and not).

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5168 on: February 13, 2017, 12:37:03 PM »
Listened to an audiobook with the wife of Neil Gaiman's tale, "The Truth is a Cave in the Black Mountains," read by Gaiman himself. Highly recommended; some of his best work.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5169 on: February 13, 2017, 12:49:07 PM »
Listened to an audiobook with the wife of Neil Gaiman's tale, "The Truth is a Cave in the Black Mountains," read by Gaiman himself. Highly recommended; some of his best work.

I don't think I've found a piece of Amanda Palmer's work, musical or writing, that I didn't enjoy. And Gaiman could build a career on the side as audiobook narrator. His entire Graveyard Book recording is available on YouTube.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5170 on: February 15, 2017, 12:22:28 PM »
The Art of Prayer for nonfiction, The Odyssey as translated by Robert Fagles for fiction.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5171 on: February 15, 2017, 12:24:53 PM »
Heart of Darkness again. Just perfection. Not bad for a guy who didn't speak English till his 20's.

Heart of Darkness is wonderful. Writing, that is.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5172 on: February 15, 2017, 12:55:29 PM »
The Pull of the Moon, by Diane Janes.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5173 on: February 15, 2017, 07:32:52 PM »
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #5174 on: February 18, 2017, 02:41:23 PM »
Recently/currently...

Blood of Elves, by Andrzej Sapkowski (I still find myself unable to get into his writing)
The Alexiad, Anna Comnena
Evidence and Inquiry: Towards Reconstruction in Epistemology, by Susan Haack
The Experience of God: Being, Consciousness, Bliss, by David Bentley Hart (I seem to be getting more from it the 2nd time through)