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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4095 on: August 17, 2014, 06:10:25 AM »
Although it's far from an Orthodox book, The Closing of the American Mind by Alan Bloom.

One of the more overrated books of the last century. Every now and then he's right in his criticism of the ideas of his opponents, although he overstates the importance that relativism holds in the minds of his opponents. His own ideas, though, are not much better either. His strict universalism, for example, is in many cases as bizarre as the relativism he so consistently critizes, and despite taking issue with the relativists much of his ideas about literature come from Nietzsche. He also has the tendency to see western philosophy and literature before the 20th century as a continuous and harmonious whole, which, of course, it wasn't.

He is often unable to avoid sounding like a ranting old man, complaining on how x, y and z were so much better in his days, which makes the book hard to enjoy. All arguments of merit in his book has been said better elsewhere, and those that are new are bizarre and often contradicted by the author without himself noting it.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4096 on: August 18, 2014, 01:37:53 PM »
Although it's far from an Orthodox book, The Closing of the American Mind by Alan Bloom.

One of the more overrated books of the last century. Every now and then he's right in his criticism of the ideas of his opponents, although he overstates the importance that relativism holds in the minds of his opponents. His own ideas, though, are not much better either. His strict universalism, for example, is in many cases as bizarre as the relativism he so consistently critizes, and despite taking issue with the relativists much of his ideas about literature come from Nietzsche. He also has the tendency to see western philosophy and literature before the 20th century as a continuous and harmonious whole, which, of course, it wasn't.

He is often unable to avoid sounding like a ranting old man, complaining on how x, y and z were so much better in his days, which makes the book hard to enjoy. All arguments of merit in his book has been said better elsewhere, and those that are new are bizarre and often contradicted by the author without himself noting it.


The book made a huge impression the first time I read it (2 years ago), but I was rather disappointed this time around for many of the reasons you mentioned above.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4097 on: August 18, 2014, 02:16:18 PM »
What are you "reading" this for?

It was available at the library, so I decided to give it a shot. At 1000+ pages I should have figured I wouldn't come anywhere close to finishing it, which I didn't.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4098 on: August 18, 2014, 03:11:00 PM »
A second heavyweight, 'Saint Cyril of Alexandria and the Christological Controversy, Fr John McGuckin, published by SVS.

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« Reply #4099 on: August 18, 2014, 07:17:03 PM »
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« Reply #4100 on: August 18, 2014, 07:18:17 PM »
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4101 on: August 18, 2014, 07:59:39 PM »
Hostage to the Devil, by Fr. Martin Malachi. Superb story telling, terrifying subject matter.

What Happened at Vatican II, by John W. O'Malley. Because I want to know.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4102 on: August 18, 2014, 08:34:24 PM »
My Life in Christ by St John of  Kronstadt and  The Hermitess Photini by Archimandrite Joachim Spetsieris
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4103 on: August 18, 2014, 08:41:30 PM »
Peter the Great: His Life and World by Robert K. Massie.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4104 on: August 19, 2014, 03:11:45 AM »
Hostage to the Devil, by Fr. Martin Malachi. Superb story telling, terrifying subject matter.



Incredible book! One of my favorites.


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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4105 on: August 22, 2014, 06:25:24 PM »
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4106 on: August 22, 2014, 06:27:27 PM »
Peter the Great: His Life and World by Robert K. Massie.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4107 on: August 22, 2014, 08:32:19 PM »
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4108 on: August 23, 2014, 10:34:36 AM »
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4109 on: August 23, 2014, 11:06:38 AM »
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4110 on: August 23, 2014, 11:36:43 AM »
Father Seraphim Rose: His Life and Works by Hieromonk Damascene.


Wonderful book!


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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4111 on: August 25, 2014, 10:54:00 PM »
Anathem / Neal Stephenson.

He went too far. He really shudda kept with the pulpier shorter stuff. This was by far his worst effort.
Have you read ReamDe? Thought the same as you about Anathem, but ReamDe is a worse attempt at swinging the other direction.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4112 on: August 26, 2014, 01:38:29 AM »
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« Reply #4113 on: August 26, 2014, 02:49:16 AM »
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« Reply #4114 on: August 26, 2014, 05:53:44 PM »


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« Reply #4116 on: September 01, 2014, 11:45:43 PM »


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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4117 on: September 02, 2014, 12:18:26 AM »


Zinn definitely has some valid insights regarding the evils and injustices that accompanied the founding of America. Which is why I actually have so little respect for him. Anyone who can so clearly see the evils perpetrated against Native Americans and slaves has no excuse for their militant support of abortion.


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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4118 on: September 02, 2014, 12:22:05 AM »


Zinn definitely has some valid insights regarding the evils and injustices that accompanied the founding of America. Which is why I actually have so little respect for him. Anyone who can so clearly see the evils perpetrated against Native Americans and slaves has no excuse for their militant support of abortion.


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The Indians? I don't think slaves had as much self-autonomy in that respect.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
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Zinn definitely has some valid insights regarding the evils and injustices that accompanied the founding of America. Which is why I actually have so little respect for him. Anyone who can so clearly see the evils perpetrated against Native Americans and slaves has no excuse for their militant support of abortion.


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The Indians? I don't think slaves had as much self-autonomy in that respect.

I meant Howard Zinn's support of abortion, not the Native Americans.


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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4120 on: September 02, 2014, 08:05:00 AM »


Zinn definitely has some valid insights regarding the evils and injustices that accompanied the founding of America. Which is why I actually have so little respect for him. Anyone who can so clearly see the evils perpetrated against Native Americans and slaves has no excuse for their militant support of abortion.


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The Indians? I don't think slaves had as much self-autonomy in that respect.

I love it when people who complain about political correctness use the singular "they".

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4121 on: September 02, 2014, 10:09:23 AM »
Anathem / Neal Stephenson.
He went too far. He really shudda kept with the pulpier shorter stuff. This was by far his worst effort.
Have you read ReamDe? Thought the same as you about Anathem, but ReamDe is a worse attempt at swinging the other direction.
I am no expert at literature, so I was curious how Neal "goes to far?"  I read it because I was intrigued by the author's imagination of a world that has monasteries devoted to math, in addition to religion.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4122 on: September 02, 2014, 06:39:24 PM »


Zinn definitely has some valid insights regarding the evils and injustices that accompanied the founding of America. Which is why I actually have so little respect for him. Anyone who can so clearly see the evils perpetrated against Native Americans and slaves has no excuse for their militant support of abortion.


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The Indians? I don't think slaves had as much self-autonomy in that respect.

I love it when people who complain about political correctness use the singular "they".

As I said in the prior post, I was referring to Howard Zinn not Native Americans. And I never mentioned political correctness.


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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4123 on: September 03, 2014, 07:53:04 AM »


Zinn definitely has some valid insights regarding the evils and injustices that accompanied the founding of America. Which is why I actually have so little respect for him. Anyone who can so clearly see the evils perpetrated against Native Americans and slaves has no excuse for their militant support of abortion.


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The Indians? I don't think slaves had as much self-autonomy in that respect.

I love it when people who complain about political correctness use the singular "they".

As I said in the prior post, I was referring to Howard Zinn

So why didn't you say "he"?

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4124 on: September 03, 2014, 10:03:42 AM »
Half way through reading the 50 Spiritual Homilies (and Apophtegmata III) of Saint Macarius of Egypt.
Heavy going in places, but every now and then real Spiritual jewels are unveiled.
I did not know such material existed - how did this get past censors?
Some say it's pseudo-graphical.

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« Reply #4125 on: September 03, 2014, 10:54:30 PM »


Zinn definitely has some valid insights regarding the evils and injustices that accompanied the founding of America. Which is why I actually have so little respect for him. Anyone who can so clearly see the evils perpetrated against Native Americans and slaves has no excuse for their militant support of abortion.


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The Indians? I don't think slaves had as much self-autonomy in that respect.

I love it when people who complain about political correctness use the singular "they".

As I said in the prior post, I was referring to Howard Zinn

So why didn't you say "he"?


I guess I made a grammatical error.


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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4126 on: September 03, 2014, 11:02:23 PM »
Just started 'Grave Doubts' by Elizabeth Corley. Good so far.

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« Reply #4127 on: September 03, 2014, 11:29:06 PM »
Anathem / Neal Stephenson.
He went too far. He really shudda kept with the pulpier shorter stuff. This was by far his worst effort.
Have you read ReamDe? Thought the same as you about Anathem, but ReamDe is a worse attempt at swinging the other direction.
I am no expert at literature, so I was curious how Neal "goes to far?"  I read it because I was intrigued by the author's imagination of a world that has monasteries devoted to math, in addition to religion.

If by "imagination" you mean "knowledge of ancient history." ;) (The Pythagoreans.)
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« Reply #4128 on: September 04, 2014, 09:09:08 PM »
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« Reply #4129 on: September 04, 2014, 10:00:36 PM »
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« Reply #4130 on: September 07, 2014, 02:23:07 AM »
Some of the "Canterbury Tales" in Middle English for school. Really quite fun, especially the bawdy stuff. The Wife of Bath is fun. And the "Miller's Tale". And it really all sounds best in Middle English. Once you get down the pronunciation it's not that hard. It only helps to have a good copy with notes for words where meaning is not clear.

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« Reply #4131 on: September 07, 2014, 02:53:40 AM »


It was a good critique of the Papacy, I had some problems with it. He seems to just assume Roman Catholicism is "true" and that as a given, interprets every criticism in that light. He comes to the same conclusion that Orthodox do, that the Church as a whole is infallible, not the man in the office. I also had problems with the way he made his criticisms, much of it was very "Scholastic" and not very "noteworthy" if you know what I mean. It's good to use logic to make points, but when it comes to a certain philosophical position that he takes as a given, and doesn't see the point of view of outsiders in his critique, it really loses it's staying power.

Maybe 3/5 stars. It's very much oriented to a Roman Catholic audience.
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« Reply #4132 on: September 07, 2014, 08:34:31 AM »
The Hindustan Times, which tends not to give me indigestion after Sunday lunch. :D

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« Reply #4134 on: September 07, 2014, 05:20:54 PM »
John Motley - Siege of Leyden.

The celebration of the lifting of the siege is coming up again soon, and I wanted to see what English sources had to say about it. The description of Leyden and the siege were very flattering up to the point of sycophancy. Enough to bring a blush to my face. Quite nice, quite nice.
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« Reply #4135 on: September 08, 2014, 07:34:57 PM »
Being and Having: An Existentialist Diary, by Gabriel Marcel

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« Reply #4136 on: September 09, 2014, 12:39:02 AM »
Being and Having: An Existentialist Diary, by Gabriel Marcel


I tried to read that once. But as I read it I kept thinking that it would be better to have a sandwich and a beer.


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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4137 on: September 09, 2014, 02:25:55 AM »
Being and Having: An Existentialist Diary, by Gabriel Marcel


I tried to read that once. But as I read it I kept thinking that it would be better to have a sandwich and a beer.


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Much better his young peer Levinas.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #4138 on: September 09, 2014, 03:41:22 AM »
Being and Having: An Existentialist Diary, by Gabriel Marcel


I tried to read that once. But as I read it I kept thinking that it would be better to have a sandwich and a beer.


Selam

Much better his young peer Levinas.

I didn't actually try to read it. Just my weak attempt at humor.


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