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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3015 on: June 01, 2013, 11:49:29 PM »
is foucault and deleuze like completely open to interpretation here? i guess i like my thesis to be crystal clear and to see if i agree or disagree.

With a lot of philosophy, simple propositions that one can take or leave are often beside the point.
yeah unless you are feeding some kind of bs enabler.

im sorry but there are plenty ways of being literary, thought provoking and funny without being purposely opaque

Don't get me wrong, a lot of philosophy simply seems difficult because it is badly written, or an old idea is regurgitated in a novel, gimmicky way. But also some of the most fulfilling philosophy, at least for me, is full of games and experiments that don't necessarily lead to a coherent system of principles.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3016 on: June 02, 2013, 01:12:22 AM »
I bought Out of Africa a few days ago and tried to read it, but I can't get past the first few pages. I find the Baroness Dinesen's writing to be dry, and while I understand that by the contemporary standards of her day she wasn't being racist, it's still hard to get passed for a reader in 2013, I find. So today I was given Two Faiths, One Banner by Professor Ian Almond, and I'm loving it. I haven't really read it in order (because it doesn't really need to be since it breaks up different regions and different eras which do not necessarily connect together), so now I'm on Chapter Three and reading about Emperor John Kantakouzenos VI and his close friendship with the Emir of Aydin, Umur. I don't know why I was so fascinated by the history of the Aragonese Crown for years; the Catalan Company was so horrible that there was a saying that existed on the island where my Grandmother was born up until at the very least the 1800's--"that's so bad, not even a Catalan would do that."
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3017 on: June 02, 2013, 06:26:25 PM »
Don't get me wrong, a lot of philosophy simply seems difficult because it is badly written, or an old idea is regurgitated in a novel, gimmicky way. But also some of the most fulfilling philosophy, at least for me, is full of games and experiments that don't necessarily lead to a coherent system of principles.

its not about the writing style to me. im not saying focault doesnt have anything to say, he does, but dont make a work purposely "hard" for the sake of it.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3018 on: June 02, 2013, 07:13:15 PM »
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« Reply #3019 on: June 02, 2013, 07:14:51 PM »
The best educator - Zhivan m. Marinkovikj

i dont see a finnish name here.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3020 on: June 02, 2013, 07:20:24 PM »
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I bought Out of Africa a few days ago and tried to read it, but I can't get past the first few pages. I find the Baroness Dinesen's writing to be dry, and while I understand that by the contemporary standards of her day she wasn't being racist, it's still hard to get passed for a reader in 2013, I find.
It's a favourite book of mine. I get what you are saying but the baroness at least, was lucid enough, to see what she was doing in Kenya and sense the way things will turn. For the same reason I liked Berberova's short stories etc. There is nostalgia there, but enough lucidity to see that things will never be the same again.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3021 on: June 02, 2013, 07:30:33 PM »
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I bought Out of Africa a few days ago and tried to read it, but I can't get past the first few pages. I find the Baroness Dinesen's writing to be dry, and while I understand that by the contemporary standards of her day she wasn't being racist, it's still hard to get passed for a reader in 2013, I find.
It's a favourite book of mine. I get what you are saying but the baroness at least, was lucid enough, to see what she was doing in Kenya and sense the way things will turn. For the same reason I liked Berberova's short stories etc. There is nostalgia there, but enough lucidity to see that things will never be the same again.

I have it on my bookshelf. Still haven't read it.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3022 on: June 02, 2013, 07:32:56 PM »
I like her short stories better. Especially the Seven Gothic Tales.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3023 on: June 02, 2013, 07:33:50 PM »
I read it in high school, that is over a decade ago.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3024 on: June 05, 2013, 09:34:48 PM »
this william blake dude is pretty good. fiery, antic, world-embracing gusto for life
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3025 on: June 06, 2013, 07:00:14 AM »
this william blake dude is pretty good. fiery, antic, world-embracing gusto for life


I just posted something about William Blake here:
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,51828.new.html#new


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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3026 on: June 06, 2013, 02:13:35 PM »
It's a favourite book of mine. I get what you are saying but the baroness at least, was lucid enough, to see what she was doing in Kenya and sense the way things will turn. For the same reason I liked Berberova's short stories etc. There is nostalgia there, but enough lucidity to see that things will never be the same again.

Well, as long as it gets better. I guess I can't really gleam all there is about the book in 22 pages. I suppose I'll give her another go, then.

I like her short stories better. Especially the Seven Gothic Tales.

May I ask, what are the Seven Gothic Tales about? I can't find an overview of those short stories online.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3027 on: June 06, 2013, 02:25:11 PM »
May I ask, what are the Seven Gothic Tales about? I can't find an overview of those short stories online.

They are not exactly what we think of as 'gothic' now; there certainly are duels, ghosts and romance galore, but the most recurrent theme is identity, especially people who are not what they appear to be. You can sample the stories here.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3028 on: June 06, 2013, 02:34:29 PM »
Sergei Hackel - Kallisarvoinen helmi (Pearl of Great Price)

A biography of St. Mary of Paris. She reminded me of Pope Francis. A Saint for sure but I didn't really understand her thoughts.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3029 on: June 06, 2013, 07:10:21 PM »
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i dont see a finnish name here.

His surname is Marinkovich, but, in Macedonia, we write "иќ" instead of "ич" at the end of Serbian surnames, and for that letter in latin we use kj. I should have written "ch" so that i will not confuse people that do not know that.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3030 on: June 06, 2013, 07:16:58 PM »
The best educator - Zhivan m. Marinkovikj

i dont see a finnish name here.

His surname is Marinkovich, but, in Macedonia, we write "иќ" instead of "ич" at the end of Serbian surnames, and for that letter in latin we use kj. I should have written "ch" so that i will not confuse people that do not know that.
i was making a joke here. supposedly finland has the best education in the world.

or so i have been told and soon to be corrected.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3031 on: June 06, 2013, 07:24:19 PM »
Sergei Hackel - Kallisarvoinen helmi (Pearl of Great Price)

A biography of St. Mary of Paris. She reminded me of Pope Francis. A Saint for sure but I didn't really understand her thoughts.
Is it because she was AFAIK a sui-generis leftist?

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3032 on: June 06, 2013, 08:43:38 PM »
A biography of St. Mary of Paris. She reminded me of Pope Francis. A Saint for sure but I didn't really understand her thoughts.

Pope Francis... 'a Saint for sure'?   ???

As the saying goes, 'look twice before you kiss the icon'.  ;D
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3033 on: June 06, 2013, 10:31:22 PM »
is foucault and deleuze like completely open to interpretation here? i guess i like my thesis to be crystal clear and to see if i agree or disagree.

With a lot of philosophy, simple propositions that one can take or leave are often beside the point.
yeah unless you are feeding some kind of bs enabler.

im sorry but there are plenty ways of being literary, thought provoking and funny without being purposely opaque

Don't get me wrong, a lot of philosophy simply seems difficult because it is badly written, or an old idea is regurgitated in a novel, gimmicky way. But also some of the most fulfilling philosophy, at least for me, is full of games and experiments that don't necessarily lead to a coherent system of principles.

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How is Foucault is hard?

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3034 on: June 06, 2013, 11:31:48 PM »
My summer reading plan:
Victor Davis Hanson:  Carnage and Culture
Aristophanes:  The Acharnians
Boethius:  The Consolation of Philosophy ( in Latin)
Lucretius:  on the Nature of the Universe
Donald Kagan:  the Peloponnesian War
Fr. Alexander Schmemann: for the Life of the World
Anthony Everitt:  Cicero
Seneca:  the Apocalocyntosis of the Divine Claudius
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3035 on: June 07, 2013, 12:28:39 AM »
^Nice. My summer reading is probably going to look something like this:

Quran
Sahih Al Bukhari (abridged)- Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan
501 Arabic Verbs- Raymond Scheindlin
Learn Arabic Language of the Qur'an- Dr. Izzath Uroosa
Media Arabic: A Coursebook for Reading Arabic News- Alaa Elgibali and Nevenka Korica
Introduction to Sahidic Coptic- Thomas Lambdin
So You Want To Learn Coptic- Sameh Younan
A Study in Bohairic Coptic- Nabil Mattar
Grammaire Copte- Alexander Mallon (translated into English)
College Latin
Wheelock's Latin Grammar
Familia Romana (with its "companion" book)
An American Childhood- Annie Dillard
On Writing Well- William Zinsser
In Cold Blood- Truman Capote
A Brief History of Time- Steven Hawking
Six Easy Pieces- Richard Feynman

But considering what a procrastinator I am (I am supposed to be finishing an essay as I type this), I'll be proud of myself if I finish even half of these books.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3036 on: June 07, 2013, 12:32:17 AM »
^Nice. My summer reading is probably going to look something like this:

Quran
Sahih Al Bukhari (abridged)- Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan
501 Arabic Verbs- Raymond Scheindlin
Learn Arabic Language of the Qur'an- Dr. Izzath Uroosa
Media Arabic: A Coursebook for Reading Arabic News- Alaa Elgibali and Nevenka Korica
Introduction to Sahidic Coptic- Thomas Lambdin
So You Want To Learn Coptic- Sameh Younan
A Study in Bohairic Coptic- Nabil Mattar
Grammaire Copte- Alexander Mallon (translated into English)
College Latin
Wheelock's Latin Grammar
Familia Romana (with its "companion" book)
An American Childhood- Annie Dillard
On Writing Well- William Zinsser
In Cold Blood- Truman Capote
A Brief History of Time- Steven Hawking
Six Easy Pieces- Richard Feynman

But considering what I procrastinator I am (I am supposed to be finishing an essay as I type this), I'll be proud of myself if I finish even half of these books.

If you make it to the Latin and need/want some assistance, let me know.  I teach that subject for a living.  I always appreciate people reading the classics in the original.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3037 on: June 07, 2013, 12:36:37 AM »
^Thanks for the offer. Definitely.

I decided to put off Ancient Greek and learn some Coptic and Latin instead. Plus, I also think a background in these two languages will help me learn the former.
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« Reply #3038 on: June 07, 2013, 12:51:29 AM »
^Nice. My summer reading is probably going to look something like this:

Quran
Sahih Al Bukhari (abridged)- Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan
501 Arabic Verbs- Raymond Scheindlin
Learn Arabic Language of the Qur'an- Dr. Izzath Uroosa
Media Arabic: A Coursebook for Reading Arabic News- Alaa Elgibali and Nevenka Korica
Introduction to Sahidic Coptic- Thomas Lambdin
So You Want To Learn Coptic- Sameh Younan
A Study in Bohairic Coptic- Nabil Mattar
Grammaire Copte- Alexander Mallon (translated into English)
College Latin
Wheelock's Latin Grammar
Familia Romana (with its "companion" book)
An American Childhood- Annie Dillard
On Writing Well- William Zinsser
In Cold Blood- Truman Capote
A Brief History of Time- Steven Hawking
Six Easy Pieces- Richard Feynman


But considering what a procrastinator I am (I am supposed to be finishing an essay as I type this), I'll be proud of myself if I finish even half of these books.

Good Grief! And Good Luck!

If you finish half, especially if you omit the ones I struck out, you are some kinda beast!
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3039 on: June 07, 2013, 12:53:52 AM »
^Thanks for the offer. Definitely.

I decided to put off Ancient Greek and learn some Coptic and Latin instead. Plus, I also think a background in these two languages will help me learn the former.

Latin is a cakewalk compared to Ancient Greek.  Good luck, or bona fortuna
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3040 on: June 07, 2013, 12:55:33 AM »
^Nice. My summer reading is probably going to look something like this:

Quran
Sahih Al Bukhari (abridged)- Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan
501 Arabic Verbs- Raymond Scheindlin
Learn Arabic Language of the Qur'an- Dr. Izzath Uroosa
Media Arabic: A Coursebook for Reading Arabic News- Alaa Elgibali and Nevenka Korica
Introduction to Sahidic Coptic- Thomas Lambdin
So You Want To Learn Coptic- Sameh Younan
A Study in Bohairic Coptic- Nabil Mattar
Grammaire Copte- Alexander Mallon (translated into English)
College Latin
Wheelock's Latin Grammar
Familia Romana (with its "companion" book)
An American Childhood- Annie Dillard
On Writing Well- William Zinsser
In Cold Blood- Truman Capote
A Brief History of Time- Steven Hawking
Six Easy Pieces- Richard Feynman


But considering what a procrastinator I am (I am supposed to be finishing an essay as I type this), I'll be proud of myself if I finish even half of these books.



Good Grief! And Good Luck!

If you finish half, especially if you omit the ones I struck out, you are some kinda beast!

Yeah, why did you strike those out?  Got something against classic American lit (in cold blood) and Latin?
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3041 on: June 07, 2013, 12:55:58 AM »
Maybe I should set a more reasonable goal for myself and call it my "finish before I graduate list" and not my "finish before the end of the summer list." ;)
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« Reply #3042 on: June 07, 2013, 01:00:23 AM »
^Nice. My summer reading is probably going to look something like this:

Quran
Sahih Al Bukhari (abridged)- Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan
501 Arabic Verbs- Raymond Scheindlin
Learn Arabic Language of the Qur'an- Dr. Izzath Uroosa
Media Arabic: A Coursebook for Reading Arabic News- Alaa Elgibali and Nevenka Korica
Introduction to Sahidic Coptic- Thomas Lambdin
So You Want To Learn Coptic- Sameh Younan
A Study in Bohairic Coptic- Nabil Mattar
Grammaire Copte- Alexander Mallon (translated into English)
College Latin
Wheelock's Latin Grammar
Familia Romana (with its "companion" book)
An American Childhood- Annie Dillard
On Writing Well- William Zinsser
In Cold Blood- Truman Capote
A Brief History of Time- Steven Hawking
Six Easy Pieces- Richard Feynman


But considering what a procrastinator I am (I am supposed to be finishing an essay as I type this), I'll be proud of myself if I finish even half of these books.



Good Grief! And Good Luck!

If you finish half, especially if you omit the ones I struck out, you are some kinda beast!

Yeah, why did you strike those out?  Got something against classic American lit (in cold blood) and Latin?

I left in Wheelock's.

I am just saying reading Capote ain't quite the feat as the other texts and half of those I am only guessing are difficult.

Coptic, Arabic, Latin . . . in one summer.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3043 on: June 07, 2013, 01:01:13 AM »
Maybe I should set a more reasonable goal for myself and call it my "finish before I graduate list" and not my "finish before the end of the summer list." ;)

Still a mighty feat! I don't understand why you talk down on yourself so much.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3044 on: June 07, 2013, 01:11:14 AM »
Maybe I should set a more reasonable goal for myself and call it my "finish before I graduate list" and not my "finish before the end of the summer list." ;)

Still a mighty feat! I don't understand why you talk down on yourself so much.
Well, I appreciate the vote of confidence. I guess the reason I wanted to "set a more reasonable goal for myself" is because I struggle to finish my required summer reading for school on time, so the likelihood of me finishing all these books in 3 months is pretty slim.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3045 on: June 07, 2013, 07:00:34 AM »
Boethius:  The Consolation of Philosophy ( in Latin)

The book is quite strange. A mix of prose and poetry. I read it a few months ago.
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« Reply #3046 on: June 07, 2013, 08:23:23 AM »
Boethius:  The Consolation of Philosophy ( in Latin)

The book is quite strange. A mix of prose and poetry. I read it a few months ago.


Oh, I've read it many times. I just like to revisit it.  The mix of prose and poetry is typical with Menippean Satire.

Unfortunately, I don't really get to appreciate its Latin.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3047 on: June 07, 2013, 08:24:03 AM »
^Nice. My summer reading is probably going to look something like this:

Quran
Sahih Al Bukhari (abridged)- Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan
501 Arabic Verbs- Raymond Scheindlin
Learn Arabic Language of the Qur'an- Dr. Izzath Uroosa
Media Arabic: A Coursebook for Reading Arabic News- Alaa Elgibali and Nevenka Korica
Introduction to Sahidic Coptic- Thomas Lambdin
So You Want To Learn Coptic- Sameh Younan
A Study in Bohairic Coptic- Nabil Mattar
Grammaire Copte- Alexander Mallon (translated into English)
College Latin
Wheelock's Latin Grammar
Familia Romana (with its "companion" book)
An American Childhood- Annie Dillard
On Writing Well- William Zinsser
In Cold Blood- Truman Capote
A Brief History of Time- Steven Hawking
Six Easy Pieces- Richard Feynman


But considering what a procrastinator I am (I am supposed to be finishing an essay as I type this), I'll be proud of myself if I finish even half of these books.



Good Grief! And Good Luck!

If you finish half, especially if you omit the ones I struck out, you are some kinda beast!

Yeah, why did you strike those out?  Got something against classic American lit (in cold blood) and Latin?

I left in Wheelock's.

I am just saying reading Capote ain't quite the feat as the other texts and half of those I am only guessing are difficult.

Coptic, Arabic, Latin . . . in one summer.

No one "reads" a grammar book. It's a reference book.  You should have kept in the Familia Romana.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3048 on: June 07, 2013, 08:25:09 AM »
The Consolatio doesn't really read like Menippean satire. Then again, my experience with that genre is limited to Lucian.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3049 on: June 07, 2013, 10:20:42 AM »
Sergei Hackel - Kallisarvoinen helmi (Pearl of Great Price)

A biography of St. Mary of Paris. She reminded me of Pope Francis. A Saint for sure but I didn't really understand her thoughts.
Is it because she was AFAIK a sui-generis leftist?

You mean why I didn't understand her thoughts? Nope. It is because of her disregard of some traditional Orthodox practices like diocesean structure of the Church and various monastic practices. But I guess the latter was because she was more of a deaconess than a nun.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3050 on: June 09, 2013, 02:00:04 AM »
The idiot / Dostoevsky

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3051 on: June 09, 2013, 02:10:27 AM »
The Decipherment of Linear B, by John Chadwick
The Poems, Plays and Prose of Pushkin, by Alexander Pushkin
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3052 on: June 09, 2013, 04:34:09 AM »
I don't need to read any more books except the Bible. Boy, it feels like I've graduated from 4 year college.  ;D

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3053 on: June 09, 2013, 10:59:31 AM »
No one "reads" a grammar book.

O rly?  :police:
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3054 on: June 09, 2013, 03:52:03 PM »
The Decipherment of Linear B, by John Chadwick


Excellent choice. My compliments, sir.  Sir John's passing several years ago made me cry. His works were what got me into studying the Bronze Age of Greek Civilization. I still reference his works to this day when I teach the Iliad.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3055 on: June 09, 2013, 03:55:03 PM »
^Nice. My summer reading is probably going to look something like this:

Quran
Sahih Al Bukhari (abridged)- Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan
501 Arabic Verbs- Raymond Scheindlin
Learn Arabic Language of the Qur'an- Dr. Izzath Uroosa
Media Arabic: A Coursebook for Reading Arabic News- Alaa Elgibali and Nevenka Korica
Introduction to Sahidic Coptic- Thomas Lambdin
So You Want To Learn Coptic- Sameh Younan
A Study in Bohairic Coptic- Nabil Mattar
Grammaire Copte- Alexander Mallon (translated into English)
College Latin
Wheelock's Latin Grammar
Familia Romana (with its "companion" book)
An American Childhood- Annie Dillard
On Writing Well- William Zinsser
In Cold Blood- Truman Capote
A Brief History of Time- Steven Hawking
Six Easy Pieces- Richard Feynman


But considering what a procrastinator I am (I am supposed to be finishing an essay as I type this), I'll be proud of myself if I finish even half of these books.



Good Grief! And Good Luck!

If you finish half, especially if you omit the ones I struck out, you are some kinda beast!

Yeah, why did you strike those out?  Got something against classic American lit (in cold blood) and Latin?

I left in Wheelock's.

I am just saying reading Capote ain't quite the feat as the other texts and half of those I am only guessing are difficult.

Coptic, Arabic, Latin . . . in one summer.

No one "reads" a grammar book.

Er . . . I do.

Not that that is a great argument for doing so.
Ignorance is not a lack, but a passion.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3056 on: June 09, 2013, 03:56:58 PM »
The Decipherment of Linear B, by John Chadwick


Excellent choice. My compliments, sir.  Sir John's passing several years ago made me cry. His works were what got me into studying the Bronze Age of Greek Civilization. I still reference his works to this day when I teach the Iliad.

Which translation into English of the Iliad do you like the most? Or how would you access briefly the strengths of the most common ones?
Ignorance is not a lack, but a passion.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3057 on: June 09, 2013, 03:58:08 PM »
^Nice. My summer reading is probably going to look something like this:

Quran
Sahih Al Bukhari (abridged)- Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan
501 Arabic Verbs- Raymond Scheindlin
Learn Arabic Language of the Qur'an- Dr. Izzath Uroosa
Media Arabic: A Coursebook for Reading Arabic News- Alaa Elgibali and Nevenka Korica
Introduction to Sahidic Coptic- Thomas Lambdin
So You Want To Learn Coptic- Sameh Younan
A Study in Bohairic Coptic- Nabil Mattar
Grammaire Copte- Alexander Mallon (translated into English)
College Latin
Wheelock's Latin Grammar
Familia Romana (with its "companion" book)
An American Childhood- Annie Dillard
On Writing Well- William Zinsser
In Cold Blood- Truman Capote
A Brief History of Time- Steven Hawking
Six Easy Pieces- Richard Feynman


But considering what a procrastinator I am (I am supposed to be finishing an essay as I type this), I'll be proud of myself if I finish even half of these books.



Good Grief! And Good Luck!

If you finish half, especially if you omit the ones I struck out, you are some kinda beast!

Yeah, why did you strike those out?  Got something against classic American lit (in cold blood) and Latin?

I left in Wheelock's.

I am just saying reading Capote ain't quite the feat as the other texts and half of those I am only guessing are difficult.

Coptic, Arabic, Latin . . . in one summer.

No one "reads" a grammar book.

Er . . . I do.

Not that that is a great argument for doing so.

Then you're a bigger nerd than I (and that's saying something).  

Just to make sure we understand, from my experience, no one reads a grammar book cover to cover.  One reads the section(s) he needs and then puts it down. If you do read a grammar book from cover to cover, you either a) need to find a new way to get to sleep at night b) really need to get a life or c) are just the language guru of the century.  ;)
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Those who do not read  history are doomed to get their facts from Hollywood--Anonymous

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3058 on: June 09, 2013, 03:58:17 PM »
No one "reads" a grammar book.

O rly?  :police:

OK, maybe people shouldn't read them given the two data points we have of those who do . . .
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #3059 on: June 09, 2013, 04:01:16 PM »
The Decipherment of Linear B, by John Chadwick


Excellent choice. My compliments, sir.  Sir John's passing several years ago made me cry. His works were what got me into studying the Bronze Age of Greek Civilization. I still reference his works to this day when I teach the Iliad.

Which translation into English of the Iliad do you like the most? Or how would you access briefly the strengths of the most common ones?

The two I favor the most are:
1)  Robert Fagles.  TO me, this is the KJV equivalent of all the (modern) translations out there.  It tries to keep the poetic form and it has wonderful introduction and footnotes with a glossary of important people in the story (in case you lost track of who was who). 
2) Stanley Lombardo.  More updated language; not quite as stuffy.  Intro is OK.  Footnotes not as copious.  I find that this version resonates with students more.  It's translated to really bring out the catastrophe of war.

I seek the truth by which no man was ever harmed--Marcus Aurelius

Those who do not read  history are doomed to get their facts from Hollywood--Anonymous

What earthly joy remains untouched by grief?--St. John Damascene