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« Reply #225 on: December 30, 2005, 11:07:47 AM » |
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Taking my first plunge into Tolkien... hobbit, then trilogy, then maybe more?
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« Reply #226 on: December 30, 2005, 01:13:45 PM » |
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I'd start with The Hobbit, because it's a an easy intro (being primarily a children's book) and because it sets the stage so nicely for the LOTR trilogy. I was very glad I'd read about Bilbo's "There and Back Again" adventure before launching into the trilogy, as wonderful as the latter is. (Wonderful enough, IMHO, to merit several full re-readings over the years.)
Neat little piece of trivia: In the original 1930s version of The Hobbit, the ring Bilbo finds is a neat little thing, but not terribly sinister. It turns him invisible and all that, but it doesn't have the same corrupting power. When Tolkien started writing the continuation of TH, he realized the ring would be The Ring of Power, the focus of the story. So he went back and rewrote part of TH, having honest little Bilbo trick Gollum rather meanly to acquire the Ring, and lie to Gandalf about how he got it, to show its corrupting influence. This is the version one finds in bookstores today.
As for me, I'm enjoying The Paul Evdokimov Reader. Most impressive. But I've taken a brief timeout to re-read The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.
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« Reply #227 on: December 30, 2005, 01:47:55 PM » |
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I'd start with The Hobbit, because it's a an easy intro (being primarily a children's book) and because it sets the stage so nicely for the LOTR trilogy. I was very glad I'd read about Bilbo's "There and Back Again" adventure before launching into the trilogy, as wonderful as the latter is. (Wonderful enough, IMHO, to merit several full re-readings over the years.) This was the advice my friend gave me: Go Hobbit, Trilogy, then The Simarilion, then the Unfinished tales and whatnot. Thanks for the trivia point, too! |
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« Reply #228 on: December 30, 2005, 03:05:07 PM » |
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You're welcome. "Trivial" is my middle name.
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« Reply #229 on: December 30, 2005, 03:14:20 PM » |
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Eragon and Eldest are so great, aurelia - you'll enjoy the 2nd book! go to your local library, it'll be in the kid's/young adult section. and cleveland - makes me so happy you're makin your first foray into Tolkien! you wont be disappointed! as for me, i am kinda nuts right now w/ my books....i am still rereading LOTR (i'm in Two Towers now), Chronicles of Narnia (Prince Caspian), Harry Potter (Half-Blood Prince), and now I have moved onto the next book I am up to in the Redwall series (Salamandastron)...and finally, at last i got my hands on the sequal to Gregory Maguire's book Wicked, called Son of a Witch, which i just started last night and I am so excited about because Wicked was wonderful. anyone who is into fairy-tales or kid's stories at all, I recommend his work - he rewrites common fairy-tales w/ an adult sensibility (Wicked is the Oz story from the perspective of the Wicked Witch of the West, starting from when she is a little green-colored baby - others include Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister and Mirror Mirror, the 1st a retelling of Cinderella and the 2nd a retelling of, i think, snow white). so, yea, im in fantasy land - best place to be when it comes to books  D |
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« Reply #230 on: December 30, 2005, 06:24:39 PM » |
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Son of a Witch,I LOVED Wicked, I so want to read the sequel. ave to pay off some library fines first though...bad me... 
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« Reply #231 on: February 01, 2006, 11:27:07 PM » |
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« Reply #232 on: February 02, 2006, 05:18:02 AM » |
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« Reply #233 on: February 03, 2006, 03:21:48 PM » |
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Starting on The Secret of the Rosary by St. Louis De Montfort (130 pgs, TAN books) and Baudolino by Umberto Eco- its gonna take me forever to get through this one- its small type and its like 520 pgs.
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« Reply #234 on: February 03, 2006, 04:32:25 PM » |
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This was the advice my friend gave me: Go Hobbit, Trilogy, then The Simarilion, then the Unfinished tales and whatnot. Thanks for the trivia point, too!
Fantastic choices all! I tend to read LoTR about once every year or so, and have done so since ca. 1982. During my time at CSU I took part in two marathon readings (for both The Two Towers and The Return of The King) held at Mather Mansion. I got to read a lot of the Gollum sequences, and was nowhere near as good as what was in the last two films. Good times nonetheless. Right now I'm reading At The Corner or East and Now by Frederica Mathewes-Green, and am about to start The Living Bread by Thomas Merton. N |
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Right now I'm reading At The Corner or East and Now by Frederica Mathewes-Green.... So am I! I'm on pg.103 at the moment. I think she does a great job of weaving theology/praxis (and explaining it) with her narrative, but fails to really keep in mind that the actual praxis/ability of those in her own parish are beginners/amateurs wrt Orthodoxy and just doing their best - considering that she only has a few "cradle" Orthodox in her parish. I'm enjoying the book - it is very light in reading and reads quickly. |
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« Reply #236 on: February 03, 2006, 06:19:51 PM » |
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I just re-read "The Great Divorce" by C.S. Lewis. Great peice.
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« Reply #237 on: February 03, 2006, 07:15:12 PM » |
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The Spiritual Counsels of Father John of Kronstadt, a 230-page "Reader's Digest" version of My Life in Christ. I came across this book, a 1960s paperback in British-English translation, one evening before Vespers when I decided to take a peek at our parish's humble little library. As soon as I opened it I became aware that it was exactly the book I needed to be reading right then, if you know what I mean. It's an amazing work -- I highly recommend it or any similar distillations of MLIC.
(The book is old enough for the translator to have noted that while the "political situation" in the USSR had not permitted the MP to glorify St. John, the Church in Exile had done so.)
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« Reply #238 on: February 03, 2006, 08:33:58 PM » |
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Caramelo by Sandra Cisneros (English Version)
Cold Mountain by Charles Frazier
Memoria de mis putas tristes by Gabriel GarcÃÂÂÂa Márquez
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Apologia Against Those Who Decry Holy Images by St. John of Damascus
Christ in the Psalms by Fr. Patrick Henry Reardon
Mountain of Silence: A Search for Orthodox Spirituality by Kyriacos C. Markides
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« Reply #239 on: February 03, 2006, 08:47:54 PM » |
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So am I! I'm on pg.103 at the moment. - it is very light in reading and reads quickly.
I'm only on pg. 40 or so. Just picked up a copy of Facing East as well, but I'm at least a week from being able to start on it. My list is too long...I'll never get around to everything. N |
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« Reply #240 on: February 04, 2006, 12:43:06 AM » |
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Finished the book on C.S. Lewis. I had read the Chronicles of Narnia and a few of his other books, but I must admit that I had a bit of an idealized notion of the man. It was insightful reading not just about his good points, but also his faults. Especially interesting was the way that Tolkien and others sometimes spoke of/to him. Anyway, got some new books from B&N:
A Brief History of the Paradox: Philosophy and the Labyrinths of the Mind, by Roy Sorensen
Whose Bible Is It? A Short History of the Scriptures, by Jaroslav Pelikan
The Problems of Philosophy, by Bertrand Russell
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« Reply #241 on: February 04, 2006, 02:12:27 AM » |
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I just re-read "The Great Divorce" by C.S. Lewis. Great peice.
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« Reply #242 on: February 04, 2006, 05:27:42 AM » |
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Just finished the entire series of the Chronicles of Narnia and now paraphrasing the stories for my young grandchildren ages 4 to 7. My ten year old grandson and I are reading the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe aloud and discussingthe theological basis of the book. He is really doing well at it. I am looking for a good spiritual study and meditation for Great Lent---any suggestions.
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« Reply #243 on: February 04, 2006, 05:30:12 AM » |
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Me too- VERY thought-provoking. Indeed. It's very Orthodox as well. There are some disagreements I have with it, but I wonder how many of those are due to his actual theology as opposed to the inherent limitations of the metaphor. |
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« Reply #244 on: February 04, 2006, 01:21:48 PM » |
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« Reply #246 on: February 22, 2006, 03:46:12 PM » |
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Indeed. It's very Orthodox as well. There are some disagreements I have with it, but I wonder how many of those are due to his actual theology as opposed to the inherent limitations of the metaphor.
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« Reply #247 on: February 22, 2006, 05:30:19 PM » |
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Recently read "The Sword of the Prophet" by Serge Trifkovic Next I'm probably going to read "The Crusades Through Arab eyes" by Amin Maalouf. Sort of picking my way through "Dock in the Dock" C.S. Lewis. Re-read the Chronicles of Narnia after seeing "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" Just finished "Till We Have Faces" - by Lewis. What a wonderful book! "The Inner Kingdom" by Bishop Ware - another wonderful book! Read a couple of Roman mystery novels and some Jane Austen in between. I like diversification Have a huge and rather daunting pile of reading for Lent. |
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« Reply #249 on: February 22, 2006, 08:23:51 PM » |
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« Reply #250 on: February 23, 2006, 06:47:04 PM » |
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If you have time or inclination, would you please explain your thoughts here a bit? Sure. Some of the major things were the destruction of people, the fact that only some people in Heaven were "close enough" to help others, and there was one more, the biggest I think, but I can't recall what it was. Anyways, for the first, I am referring especially to the main with the mime on a chain, where he completely "poofs." I understand the point of the sin completely taking over, but it seems to be teaching that the sin "replaces" the person, whereas what actually happens is that the person is just controlled by the sin, but never gone. Also, the fact that only the "lower" citizens of Heaven were allowed/able to help newcomers, and that the holier ones couldn't even see them, was wrong; it is very backwards. Jesus Himself came to help that very type of people, and as we see in Orthodoxy, the more saintly peopel are in fact the ones that make most of an impact. (Again, sorry I can't remmeber the other problem.) But as I mentioned before, I am not sure if these are due to his actual theology of Heaven/Hell, or simply the limitations of the analogy he used. |
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I'm now reading "Consoler of Suffering Hearts - The Life, Counsels and Miracles of Eldress Rachel, Visionary of Russia" by Archpriest Sergei Levedev. I haven't been able to put this book down since I received it in the mail. It is a beautiful witness of a beautiful Christian - one whom we can emulate. Eldress Rachel's absolute faith in God has really encouraged me and touched my heart. Has anyone else ever read this book?
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« Reply #254 on: March 02, 2006, 12:35:03 PM » |
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I am not sure if these are due to his actual theology of Heaven/Hell, or simply the limitations of the analogy he used.
Thank you for explaining. I think that it was due to the limits of the analogy. Ebor |
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« Reply #255 on: March 08, 2006, 09:22:14 AM » |
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Reading just now HH Dalai Lama & Howard Cutler: The Art of Happines. A handbook for living.
I find Dalai a very exaiting personality. Once he said beeing a marxist as much as a buddist.
His Holiness is visiting next summer even the little country of Finland...
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Bone Wars: The Excavation and Celebrity of Andrew Carnegie's Dinosaur, by Tom Rea
Lost Christianities: The Battle for Scripture and Faiths We Never Knew, by Bart D. Ehrman
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« Reply #257 on: April 11, 2006, 08:50:25 AM » |
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"Heart of Darkness" by Joseph Conrad for my class.
Just finished "Pretender" by Cherryh, the lastest in her "Foriegner" series (It's SF)
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« Reply #259 on: April 11, 2006, 10:02:25 AM » |
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The Suffering Servant: Isaiah 53 in Christian and Jewish Sources, ed. B. Junowski, P. Stuhl Macher
Greek in a Nutshell: An Outline of Greek Grammar with Brief Reading Lessons, J. Strong
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"Heart of Darkness" by Joseph Conrad for my class.
Just finished "Pretender" by Cherryh, the lastest in her "Foriegner" series (It's SF)
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« Reply #261 on: April 11, 2006, 11:20:31 PM » |
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Little Women by Louisa May Alcott, Walk Two Moons by Sharon Creech, What is Goodbye? by Nikki Grimes, Simon and Garfunkel: The Biography by Victoria Kingston, and still workin my way slowly through LOTR (Tolkien) and the Time Quartet by Madeline L'Engle (I'm on A Wind in the Door).
I just read Holes by Louis Sacher in 2 very fast sittings this weekend...I highly recommend this Newberry Award Winner.
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Ordered this book from my local library which they purchased: Author Stamatis, Steven P. Title The Janissary factor-- in the name of God : a novel / by Steven P. Stamatis. Publication info. Baltimore : Publish America, c2004. http://catalog.kcls.org/search/Kstamatis&searchscope=1&SORT=D/Kstamatis&searchscope=1&SORT=D/1%2C2%2C2%2CB/frameset&FF=Kstamatis&searchscope=1&SORT=D&1%2C1%2CThis fiction novel is very pooly written but does have an interesting plot where a Janissary rebellion 200 years ago in Turkey ressulted in the Sultan eliminating the Janissaries as a guard force, however some were spared and organized a secret organiation with the goal of ethnic Greeks and others in the units assuming the identity of their Christian ancestors and working secretely to infiltrate the Partiarchy of Constanitinople with bishops who are secret Muslims trained in both faiths with the gol of having one of them become patriarch as a Turkish secret agent. Of course the hero uncovers the plot and saves the Patriach who is obviously Bartholomew with the name of Timothy. Not very well written and could have been done better. |
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I did not know that the dalai lama was any interest to an Orthodox Christian; since of Orthodox Christians are followers of Christ.
And you used the prefix HH in your description of this man. You can not mean 'His Holiness'...right?
I am assuming that either you were joking or I misunderstood what you posted. I pray that either situation is the case.
If you are truly reading with interest the thoughts of this man than I suggest that you speak with your Priest on this.
I was taught that the Orthodox church teaches reading books, watching videos or listening to people which are teaching ideas that are not consistent with the teachings of the Orthodox church are to be avoided; especially when they are teaching alternative means of procuring spiritual peace and relevance; and that during the great fast reading, watching TV an all other forms of entertainment should be avoided including listening to music or other oratory that is not particularly intended to enrich the growth of the Orthodox Christian spirit.
I do not know many people who follow this but it is still taught and kept strongly in Ethiopia and I find it good stewartship from the Fathers to help keep people focused on the fast so that the fast is not merely a 'vegan diet'. The point is that the EYES, EARS, STOMACH and all other parts of the body is to be subject to the fast...not just the stomach. Even the mind should not imagine profane things or silliness but focus on righteous thoughts and ideas.
Just a little advise to you and all (as well as myself).
On the subject I am reading 'God or nothing else' by HH (His Holiness) Pope Shenouda III; Patriarch of Alexandria and the the See of St. Mark. I just finished 'the seven words of Christ of the cross' also by HH Pope Shenouda III. This was an amazing book which like all of his books rings clear and enriches your faith in Christ and His Church.
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« Reply #264 on: April 12, 2006, 02:17:39 PM » |
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Whew, this thread is too long for me to read all your responses in one sitting. I guess I'll just chime in with my response. I'm currently reading--for the fifth time-- The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien. Excellent story! |
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« Reply #265 on: April 12, 2006, 02:27:37 PM » |
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I read Holes some years back when I got it for my eldest, not long before the movie. I think it's wonderful (the movie isn't bad either, but the book is better).
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« Reply #266 on: April 12, 2006, 11:29:26 PM » |
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Yea I haven't gotten around to the movie Holes yet, but I am wary of the fact that Stanley is not overweight in the movie...I am a fan of the actor playing Stanley, and I think he has the right personality for it, so it may be okay. But I'll hafta wait and see...I suspect the book will have my heart on this one though, if it's between the book and the movie.
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hmmmm...
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« Reply #267 on: April 13, 2006, 07:17:21 AM » |
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Krysostomos
I did not know that the dalai lama was any interest to an Orthodox Christian; since of Orthodox Christians are followers of Christ.
I am rc, who reads all kind of books - even orthodox ones... |
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"You may say I am a dreamer. But I am not the only one." John Lennon
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« Reply #268 on: April 13, 2006, 07:40:42 AM » |
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This is just a thread to ask what everyone is reading. At the moment I'm reading this thread. |
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Fàilte dhut a Mhoire,
tha thu lan de na gràsan;
Tha an Tighearna maille riut.
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PeterTheAleut
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« Reply #269 on: April 13, 2006, 12:17:10 PM » |
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At the moment I'm reading this thread.
SMARTASS!!!  |
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