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« on: February 21, 2011, 12:06:42 AM »

I was wondering if anyone is aware of any type of comprehensive online resources which contain Orthodox scripture commentary, especially from the Early Church Fathers and other Orthodox Saints? I'm looking for anything that I can get here. Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2011, 12:19:54 AM »

Let me know if you find this. Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2011, 12:36:37 AM »

A nice preivew of that book Trevor was talking about. It heavily relies on Chrysostom commentary

http://books.google.com/books?id=YLmbkbpANpAC&pg=PA119&dq=holy+father+bible+orthodox&hl=en&ei=RuthTcfzLMOqlAe-nP3cCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CEAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2011, 12:59:10 AM »

That is a nice preview actually. Perhaps I should have been a bit more specific, I am looking that can be categorized by book, say for example, I want to find Orthodox commentary for the book of John.
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2011, 01:29:36 AM »

Off-and-on I've been thinking about getting an Orthodox commentary on the book of John myself, and I have been eyeing these two:

http://cpress.orthodoxws.com/catalog_explanation_4.html
(by St Theophylact of Ohrid)

http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-John-Beholding-Orthodox-Companion/dp/1888212551
(br Fr Lawrence Farley)

Neither is a comprehensive study by the early Fathers, but they both still look pretty good.
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2011, 04:07:38 AM »

Perhaps there is justification and need for a wiki style site arranged by Bible books/ch/vss where Orthodox Christians could contribute to an online commentary project?
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2011, 11:56:12 AM »

If you go to http://www.ccel.org/fathers.html and scroll down, you will find the homilies of St. John Chrysostom online for Gospel of St. Matthew, Gospel of St. John, Acts of the Apostles, Epistle to the Romans, 1 & 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, Thessalonians, Timothy, Titus, and Philemon, and Hebrews.

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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2011, 02:16:12 PM »

If you go to http://www.ccel.org/fathers.html and scroll down, you will find the homilies of St. John Chrysostom online for Gospel of St. Matthew, Gospel of St. John, Acts of the Apostles, Epistle to the Romans, 1 & 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, Thessalonians, Timothy, Titus, and Philemon, and Hebrews.



That's the best i've seen so far, thanks jah777!
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2011, 02:16:42 PM »

Perhaps there is justification and need for a wiki style site arranged by Bible books/ch/vss where Orthodox Christians could contribute to an online commentary project?

That would be an ambitious project, no doubt, but one well worth the effort. Of course, commentary would have to be based on writings of the fathers/saints. Perhaps though I would almost rather see just the text from the fathers/saints themselves available online than extrapolations/interpolations of others.
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2013, 11:38:11 PM »

I know this thread was posted two years ago, but has anything popped up since then. I would really enjoy a comprehensive Orthodox commentary of scripture.
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2013, 12:04:04 AM »

I have been flirting with putting something like this together, on a purely rudimentary level at first anyway, for a while now. It would be a collection of both English language translations and also Russian, Greek/Latin (Migne, etc.), etc. and anything really that was in the public domain, with an emphasis on the site being easy to navigate and the content easy to locate with searches (or a little work). A lot of the resources are already out there on the net, they just need to be organized in a better way, made more accessible, etc. For example, you can use the indexes provided by CCEL to search the works of the Church Fathers they host to see if they quote this or that Scripture passage. Want to know if St. John Chrysostom quoted Joshua 7:6 or Judges 13:18? That information is at your fingertips, you just have to manually search through each of the indexes (here is an example). Unfortunately I haven't found a site yet that brings it all together, and I'm a long way off from starting the project myself.
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2013, 12:07:05 AM »

I know this thread was posted two years ago, but has anything popped up since then. I would really enjoy a comprehensive Orthodox commentary of scripture.

You can find good homilies online.

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St. Augustine on the Psalms http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf108.toc.html
St. Augustine on the Gospel of John and the 1st Catholic Epistle of John http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf107.toc.html
St. Augustine on the Gospels http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf106.toc.html
St. John Chrysostom on the Gospel of St. Matthew http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf110.toc.html
St. John Chrysostom on the Acts of the Apostles and the Epistle of St. Paul to the Romans http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf110.toc.html
St. John Chrysostom on the Epistles to the Corinthians http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf112.toc.html
St. John Chrysostom on the other Pauline Epistles http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf113.toc.html
St. John Chrysostom on the Gospel of John and the Epistle to the Hebrews http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf114.toc.html
St. Jerome on the Book of Daniel http://www.ccel.org/ccel/pearse/morefathers/files/jerome_daniel_02_text.htm
St. Cyril of Alexandria Commentary on the Gospel of Luke http://www.ccel.org/ccel/pearse/morefathers/files/cyril_on_luke_00_intro.htm
St. Cyril of Alexandria Commentary on Gospel of St. John the Evangelist http://www.ccel.org/ccel/pearse/morefathers/files/cyril_on_john_00_praefatio.htm

Those are the online ones I know of, if you want ones in print, well that may take more time.
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2013, 12:09:07 AM »

^New Advent is generally easier to navigate than CCEL (and other websites with the same info), if all you want is the actual texts of the Church Fathers, though the New Advent footnotes are terrible (or nonexistent) as are the scholarly commentary/introductions.
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2013, 01:03:33 AM »

Honestly, I think these will hold me over for some time. I'm not really looking for print, especially if I can find it for free online. Thanks Guys. It seems like St. John Chrysostom is very popular in the Orthodox tradition. I'll do some research on him tomorrow.

Asteriktos, that's a really cool idea. I dunno if there's any way I can help, but you can always shoot me a message, as I wouldn't mind. That's essentially what I was looking for, an online, easily navigable collection.
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2013, 01:57:15 AM »

It seems like St. John Chrysostom is very popular in the Orthodox tradition. I'll do some research on him tomorrow.

St. John Chrysostom is considered one of the "Three Holy Hierarchs", there was actually a big debate in the Church as to which one was "better" than the others.
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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2013, 02:44:27 AM »

Interesting. Was there a particular reason? I mean it doesn't seem that important who was ultimately most important. All three were probably huge in their own right. Good to know the history though.

edit: thnx for sharing btw, im pretty ignorant here.
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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2014, 12:25:52 PM »

Interesting. Was there a particular reason? I mean it doesn't seem that important who was ultimately most important. All three were probably huge in their own right. Good to know the history though.

St. Gregory the Theologian was the best, but the partisans for the other two saints couldn't be made to see reason, so being saintly and humble, St. Gregory allowed all three to be venerated together so as to maintain brotherly love and unity on earth. This story is not true, but it's how I think about it.  Grin See here for another view.

Regarding the OP... since I last posted on this thread I have wondered what the negatives and positives of such a project would be. I am generally a fan of getting as much good/verified information to people as possible and then leaving it to them to do right by it. And there would obviously be advantages in learning about the faith, constructing/researching for sermons, etc. However, I do think there are also dangers in this kind of thing. A major worry is that such lists or resources can give people a sense of knowledge that is well beyond the means of what they actually have. They may not know the culture, context, language issues, and on and on, and all they can think is "Well I based my opinion on the Fathers, I read a bunch of them, so how can I get things wrong?" It is perhaps comparable to Protestants, who continually read and study the Bible, and think they are growing with each day to a better understanding. And maybe they are, I hope so anyway. However, this can also lead to a prideful sense of mastery of a topic or text or whatever that isn't actually there.

Anyway, thoughts on the pros and cons of such sites/resources?
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