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« on: February 15, 2011, 03:33:25 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2011, 04:01:18 PM »

I recall reading that one Finnish Gospel musician once said that "when you combine religion and entertaiment you get bad religion and bad entertaiment."

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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2011, 04:12:07 PM »

I recall reading that one Finnish Gospel musician once said that "when you combine religion and entertaiment you get bad religion and bad entertaiment."


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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2011, 05:05:30 PM »

I recall reading that one Finnish Gospel musician once said that "when you combine religion and entertaiment you get bad religion and bad entertaiment."



That's true of every "worship band" performance I've ever sat through. Usually not done very well. And I get freaked out by people (especially little kids) who become completely enraptured and gesticulate and cry.
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2011, 06:43:33 PM »

For some reason it makes me think of an episode I saw of Metalocalypse where they had the band's parents on the show. Toki's dad was a pastor from Norway and about halfway through the episode it show's Toki's mom cross herself from right to left.
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2011, 06:50:55 PM »

I suppose spiritually it's better than nothing, but I'm glad my Lutheran Grandmother isn't alive to see this.
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2011, 07:29:19 PM »

RC Metal Mass http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5VFC_TDkYM&feature=player_embedded
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2011, 09:12:27 PM »

If your gonna do it you gotta be subtle and artistic to achieve better results.
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2011, 10:02:50 PM »


wow.  if my Grandmother saw this, she'd do an epic facepalm and exclaim "mój Boże!",as was her habit at anything un Catholic.
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2011, 10:08:41 PM »

Well it looks like someone from our forum got the link and then decided to make ***** out of Orthodox Christians (on the Roman Catholic metal Mass).


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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2011, 10:23:26 PM »

Two comments:
  • In a Lutheran church you would expect some killer keyboard licks.
  • Brain Salad Surgery, first track
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2011, 10:25:39 PM »

I will say that I was expecting this to be way cooler, as Scandinavia has produced some of the best extreme metal that the world has seen. I just figured that there had to be some High Church Lutherans up there that could successfully marry the worlds. This seems silly.
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2011, 02:20:20 PM »

Well it looks like someone from our forum got the link and then decided to make ***** out of Orthodox Christians (on the Roman Catholic metal Mass).

Yeah, noticed that.
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2011, 08:00:25 AM »

A Lutheran death metal service isn't all that shocking.  The Scandinavians are the undisputed masters of the death-metal genre.

It's a set-up.  During the winter the sun rises at 9 am and sets at 3 or 4 pm in Stockholm.  No wonder why seasonal affective disorder and depression are common among Scandinavians.  There ain't no sunlight for vitamin metabolism and serotonin production!


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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2011, 08:20:33 AM »

If you would like to see more videos of those Metal Masses search for "metallimessu" from Youtube.
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2011, 11:41:23 AM »

Ay Dios mio! That's... Shocked

I actually LIKE metal and I think that this is ridiculous. Not to get stereotypical, but I totally thought that Lutherans would be the last people to have a metal service.  Grin

But I agree with jordanz that if any country is going to do a Lutheran metal service....it's a Scandinavian country!

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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2011, 01:17:00 PM »

I must be honest I had to laugh when I saw the Lutheran Metal Mass minister dude.
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2011, 03:45:29 PM »

At first I was like  Huh and then I was like  Cheesy and finally I was like  Grin
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2011, 03:49:13 PM »

If they could get the guys from Emperor or Burzum to convert to Christianity, a decent metal mass might be feasible.
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2011, 06:58:35 PM »

I will say that I was expecting this to be way cooler, as Scandinavia has produced some of the best extreme metal that the world has seen. I just figured that there had to be some High Church Lutherans up there that could successfully marry the worlds. This seems silly.

I know. You would think that with such great metal acts which Finland has produced over the years (CoB, Kalmah, Nightwish) there would be something a little more artistic and palpable.  Such is clearly not the case.
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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2011, 08:27:59 PM »

At first I was like  Huh and then I was like  Cheesy and finally I was like  Grin

what, no  Shocked ?
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2011, 06:24:27 AM »

A Lutheran death metal service isn't all that shocking.  The Scandinavians are the undisputed masters of the death-metal genre.

It's a set-up.  During the winter the sun rises at 9 am and sets at 3 or 4 pm in Stockholm.  No wonder why seasonal affective disorder and depression are common among Scandinavians.  There ain't no sunlight for vitamin metabolism and serotonin production!
In Poland it is the same thing.
If the Swedes lived the Faith, they would not have these problems. The only remedy is to eat less. Do you know how idiotic women who believe the fact that their metabolism doesn't work go to the solarium, and walk out with brown skin..   
I have noticed one thing, you can invent a disease, and soon, everyone will be sick with it.
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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2011, 09:37:27 AM »

In Poland it is the same thing.

No, it's not. Poland is well to the south.

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The winter blues of Scandinavians isn't some recently invented disease. It was noted by writers in antiquity.
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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2011, 01:44:26 AM »

At first I was like  Huh and then I was like  Cheesy and finally I was like  Grin

what, no  Shocked ?

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« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2011, 11:13:06 AM »


Umm.. No thanks.
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« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2011, 01:49:21 PM »


Wimps and posers... leave the hall!
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« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2011, 02:02:12 PM »


That might be the most horrible thing I've ever seen...
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« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2011, 02:11:41 PM »

I will say that I was expecting this to be way cooler, as Scandinavia has produced some of the best extreme metal that the world has seen. I just figured that there had to be some High Church Lutherans up there that could successfully marry the worlds. This seems silly.

Finland isn't Scandinavian...
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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2011, 02:20:08 PM »

Really? I thought it was.  Huh
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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2011, 03:44:16 PM »

Really? I thought it was.  Huh

No, Finns, though they look like Nords in almost every aspect have the same ancestors as the Mongols and Turks. Their language is part of the larger Turkish family.  Technically, Finland and Iceland have a  special designation to mark them apart from Scandinavia, but I can't remember what it is.
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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2011, 03:48:53 PM »

Whatev. Anything above that snaky sea thing above Germany is Scandanavian to me.
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2011, 04:03:39 PM »


Hey, I love metal - just not in worship.

I know that people do this with the best intentions but I think distracts more than anything.
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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2011, 04:17:18 PM »

Really? I thought it was.  Huh

Scandinavia includes Denmark, Norway, and Sweden.

Nordic countries are Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden.

One reason Finland isn't Scandinavian because Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish languages are a dialect continuum known as the Scandinavian languages—they are mutually intelligible with each other. Finnish is entirely unrelated to Scandinavian languages.

Finland is kind of a hybrid between Russia and Scandinavia.
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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2011, 04:26:58 PM »

This really makes me appreciate the Divine Liturgy.
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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2011, 04:32:09 PM »

Thanks, CF and scamandrius.  Smiley I learned something today!
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« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2011, 08:20:11 PM »

Whatev. Anything above that snaky sea thing above Germany is Scandanavian to me.

Uh, dude, I'm a Finn; that's my heritage.  Please don't reply to my post with a snarky "whatev."  My relatives fought those damned Soviet communists and gave their blood for Suomi.  It is a great nation.
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« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2011, 08:23:01 PM »

Finland is kind of a hybrid between Russia and Scandinavia.

Finland a hybrid of Russia and Scandinavia?  Finland was conquered and ruled by both Scandinavians and Russians, quite brutally too. The Finns have a state Lutheran church and a state Orthodox Church, but culturally, Finland is quite distinct. Elakoon Suomi.
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« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2011, 08:30:52 PM »

Whatev. Anything above that snaky sea thing above Germany is Scandanavian to me.

Uh, dude, I'm a Finn; that's my heritage.  Please don't reply to my post with a snarky "whatev."  My relatives fought those damned Soviet communists and gave their blood for Suomi.  It is a great nation.

Read what I wrote again chief. Focus in on: "snaky sea thing" and "above germany".  police
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« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2011, 09:35:41 PM »

Finland a hybrid of Russia and Scandinavia?  Finland was conquered and ruled by both Scandinavians and Russians, quite brutally too. The Finns have a state Lutheran church and a state Orthodox Church, but culturally, Finland is quite distinct. Elakoon Suomi.

Yes, I spoke my thoughts. I'm not dissing Finland.

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« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2011, 10:28:53 AM »

This reminds me of Fratello Metallo, an Italian metal band whose lead singer (vocalist) is a Capuchin Friar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXclLNSwIAQ&feature=related

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« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2011, 11:29:12 AM »

Really? I thought it was.  Huh

No, Finns, though they look like Nords in almost every aspect have the same ancestors as the Mongols and Turks. Their language is part of the larger Turkish family.

Source?

I consider Finland to be part of Scandinavia. While Finland is geographically a little distinct from other Scandinavian countries and while our language and culture might have originally been more Eastern than other Scandinavican countries I believe that centuries-long occupation of Sweden and post-Independence politics made us part of Scandinavia.
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« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2011, 03:36:19 PM »

Really? I thought it was.  Huh

No, Finns, though they look like Nords in almost every aspect have the same ancestors as the Mongols and Turks. Their language is part of the larger Turkish family.

Source?

I consider Finland to be part of Scandinavia. While Finland is geographically a little distinct from other Scandinavian countries and while our language and culture might have originally been more Eastern than other Scandinavican countries I believe that centuries-long occupation of Sweden and post-Independence politics made us part of Scandinavia.

Works for me  Smiley
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« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2011, 08:07:24 PM »

Linguistically-speaking, Finnish is not Scandinavian but Uralic, thereby related to Estonian, Hungarian, and various minority languages of Finland, Sweden, and Russia (Sami, Udmurt, Mari, etc). No clear genetic relationship has been established with the Turkic languages (sorry, Scamandrius), though the urheimat suggested by the name "Uralic" might cause some confusion in that regard (the Urals do run through parts of Kazakhstan and other areas where Turkic languages are spoken). Culturally of course it may be another, more complicated matter, as Alpo points out.

On to the topic at hand: I am so glad to be firmly on the path to joining a church where this kind of thing is not tolerated or encouraged. Call me crazy, but I really do think that there ought to be maintained in the minds and hearts of the people a strict division between what is allowed in a liturgical context and what is not. Luckily for me, Egyptians (and Syrians, Ethiopians, etc.) are generally not keen on heavy metal music, though theoretically it could be some other thing (I would be just as unhappy to find "Chaabi" showing up in church).
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« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2011, 09:10:17 PM »

Scandinavia!

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« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2011, 01:09:37 AM »

Scandinavia!



One would think that those who actually live in Scandinavia know better than those who live in America. angel

But then again since I'm not into Nationalism, Scandinavism or other isms for me it doesn't really matter whether we are part of Scandinavia or not. People should value their heritage in it's own right rather than it being part of something bigger. Länge leve Finland. Wink
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