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News around...
« on: February 11, 2011, 12:35:57 AM »
Here are some news I found googling today. Would like to share and get your opinion.

http://bit.ly/feGnSW

After reading this: the only question comes to mind - What is wrong with OCA?

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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2011, 12:48:16 AM »
Here are some news I found googling today. Would like to share and get your opinion.

http://bit.ly/feGnSW

After reading this: the only question comes to mind - What is wrong with OCA?
Nothing.

Do yourself a favor. Stay away from that site: it's toxic.
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2011, 01:06:43 AM »
Here are some news I found googling today. Would like to share and get your opinion.

http://bit.ly/feGnSW

After reading this: the only question comes to mind - What is wrong with OCA?

Gah!  I clicked on a link to the "Voices from Russia" site.  Great.  Now I am yet another statistic for the author of that blog to crow about.  Try not using an abbreviated url next time.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2011, 03:26:35 AM »
Try not using an abbreviated url next time.

I figured a board of such conservative bent would have a policy against URL redirects.
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2011, 10:08:12 AM »

Nothing.

Do yourself a favor. Stay away from that site: it's toxic.

I agree. I've stumbled onto her site before.  She not very kind to those she disagrees with.

It seems to me she has anger issues.  I think calling Kh. Frederica Matthews-Green "Freddie" is pretty disrespectful, no matter what one may think of her.  And calling Met. JONAH a "fat poseur" is way over the top. 

I think its kind of funny that she hurls this stuff out there and then has comments off. 


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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2011, 10:33:09 AM »
Or, the OP may be a troll from he/she who cannot be named?

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Re: News around...
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2011, 01:38:39 PM »
Here are some news I found googling today. Would like to share and get your opinion.

http://bit.ly/feGnSW

After reading this: the only question comes to mind - What is wrong with OCA?

It has an unhinged blogger throwing mud in its face.  That's what's wrong with the OCA. 

I've always had a hard time wrapping my mind around a Russian supremacist who criticizes others for suffering from obesity and alcoholism.  This is like someone who adores pots, but hates kettles for being black.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2011, 01:53:57 PM »

Nothing.

Do yourself a favor. Stay away from that site: it's toxic.

I agree. I've stumbled onto her site before.  She not very kind to those she disagrees with.

It seems to me she has anger issues.  I think calling Kh. Frederica Matthews-Green "Freddie" is pretty disrespectful, no matter what one may think of her.  And calling Met. JONAH a "fat poseur" is way over the top. 

I think its kind of funny that she hurls this stuff out there and then has comments off. 



It is also a "rule" of this board to refer to the title of the wife of a Priest? Just wondering.

FWIW. If the first text I read about Orthodoxy in the context of a crisis of faith was any of Kh. Frederica Matthews-Green's stuff. I would have probably would have laughed after the first chapter or two and tossed the text.

Thankfully, I read a handful of essays from this text:

http://www.amazon.com/Inner-Journey-Christian-Tradition-Anthology/dp/1596750081

The essays / "interviews" from Fr. Alexander Schmemann, Fr. Thomas Hopko, and Metropolitan Kallistos Ware profoundly affected me.

The text was suggested to me by a Protestant who said that I might find something in Orthodoxy.
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2011, 04:19:07 PM »

Nothing.

Do yourself a favor. Stay away from that site: it's toxic.

I agree. I've stumbled onto her site before.  She not very kind to those she disagrees with.

It seems to me she has anger issues.  I think calling Kh. Frederica Matthews-Green "Freddie" is pretty disrespectful, no matter what one may think of her.  And calling Met. JONAH a "fat poseur" is way over the top.  

I think its kind of funny that she hurls this stuff out there and then has comments off.  



It is also a "rule" of this board to refer to the title of the wife of a Priest? Just wondering.

FWIW. If the first text I read about Orthodoxy in the context of a crisis of faith was any of Kh. Frederica Matthews-Green's stuff. I would have probably would have laughed after the first chapter or two and tossed the text.

Thankfully, I read a handful of essays from this text:

http://www.amazon.com/Inner-Journey-Christian-Tradition-Anthology/dp/1596750081

The essays / "interviews" from Fr. Alexander Schmemann, Fr. Thomas Hopko, and Metropolitan Kallistos Ware profoundly affected me.

The text was suggested to me by a Protestant who said that I might find something in Orthodoxy.

You may have laughed her off but surely you wouldn't refer to her as "Freddie".   :-\

Well...that blogger has got some rather unfavorable things to say about Fr. Alexander too. (imagine that!).  ;)  
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2011, 05:48:04 PM »
Yes, she is an angry small person.  She taunts and gloats over failings in the Orthodox Church as if it brings her joy.  Toxic indeed.

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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2011, 03:42:24 AM »

Nothing.

Do yourself a favor. Stay away from that site: it's toxic.

I agree. I've stumbled onto her site before.  She not very kind to those she disagrees with.

It seems to me she has anger issues.  I think calling Kh. Frederica Matthews-Green "Freddie" is pretty disrespectful, no matter what one may think of her.  And calling Met. JONAH a "fat poseur" is way over the top.  

I think its kind of funny that she hurls this stuff out there and then has comments off.  



The comments are off because most of the hits "she" brags about are really people who think the blog is horrible and/or unintentionally amusing.

I think the nicknames are my favorite part.  They are a delightful mix of Russian diminuitives and childish insults that just sends me into hysterical convulsions, wondering if even Vara takes himself seriously anymore.
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2011, 11:08:31 AM »


I think the nicknames are my favorite part.  They are a delightful mix of Russian diminuitives and childish insults that just sends me into hysterical convulsions, wondering if even Vara takes himself seriously anymore.

I believe that Vara is a she. 

I think the only thing that site is good for is Protestant fodder against the Orthodox faith.

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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2011, 11:58:37 AM »
It was not my intention to lure anybody to a website that is gossip or toxic. So please forgive me. Nevertheless, the question was missed. Please understand, I do not use search engines to find this type of information. It so happened that I stumbled on it. I do not condone this type of websites and normally do not participate in a discussion on such topics but, perhaps, I was unclear.... When I asked for your opinion, I was referring to two letters that were published on the website. I do not know who the moderator of the website is and I do not really care but can not deny the fact the the information is there and was made available for not only me but everybody else to see it. Again, after reading about a deacon getting married and the letter from one bishop to another, all I can say What the heck?

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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2011, 06:12:34 PM »
I can't comment on the situation brought up in the letters, but I would not use Bishop Nikolai as a source for accurate news about goings-on in the Church considering his track record in the American Orthodox Diocese of Alaska and the Serbian Orthodox Diocese of Australia and New Zealand. Especially considering Metropolitan Jonah's rather strong language about homosexuals being part of a 'culture of death.' Just sayin'...
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2011, 08:47:25 PM »
I can't comment on the situation brought up in the letters, but I would not use Bishop Nikolai as a source for accurate news about goings-on in the Church considering his track record in the American Orthodox Diocese of Alaska and the Serbian Orthodox Diocese of Australia and New Zealand. Especially considering Metropolitan Jonah's rather strong language about homosexuals being part of a 'culture of death.' Just sayin'...
I would say the bishop has an inner knowledge of things that cannot just be dismissed by a passing remark of a young, new and, perhaps, naive metropolitan.

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Re: News around...
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2011, 10:54:21 PM »
I can't comment on the situation brought up in the letters, but I would not use Bishop Nikolai as a source for accurate news about goings-on in the Church considering his track record in the American Orthodox Diocese of Alaska and the Serbian Orthodox Diocese of Australia and New Zealand. Especially considering Metropolitan Jonah's rather strong language about homosexuals being part of a 'culture of death.' Just sayin'...
I would say the bishop has an inner knowledge of things that cannot just be dismissed by a passing remark of a young, new and, perhaps, naive metropolitan.

From what I can see, we're talking about the letters of a bishop who has plenty of reason to spread vitriol everywhere, up against a hierarch who has a long background in monasticism.

If I was to go through the letter to Bishop Benjamin, I'd call it a tantrum, mostly based around 'I did you many favours, why can't you give me a kickback'.  It's pathetic.

It's also a private interchange, so it confuses me why this is in the public forum anyway - sans replies, I note, from the hierarchs that, unlike Bishop Nikolai (Soraich), haven't been suspended for tonsuring child molestors.

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Re: News around...
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2011, 11:29:16 PM »


I think the nicknames are my favorite part.  They are a delightful mix of Russian diminuitives and childish insults that just sends me into hysterical convulsions, wondering if even Vara takes himself seriously anymore.

I believe that Vara is a she. 

I think the only thing that site is good for is Protestant fodder against the Orthodox faith.

He is a she only due to surgery that removed his male parts.
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2011, 04:56:13 AM »
I can't comment on the situation brought up in the letters, but I would not use Bishop Nikolai as a source for accurate news about goings-on in the Church considering his track record in the American Orthodox Diocese of Alaska and the Serbian Orthodox Diocese of Australia and New Zealand. Especially considering Metropolitan Jonah's rather strong language about homosexuals being part of a 'culture of death.' Just sayin'...
I would say the bishop has an inner knowledge of things that cannot just be dismissed by a passing remark of a young, new and, perhaps, naive metropolitan.

No, but at that point, Bishop Nikolai had plenty of motivation to put a negative or embarrassing spin on true events. 

For instance, if we take it as fact that someone actually watched lots of pornography on the diocesan computers, Bishop Nikolai offers absolutely no proof that it was Bishop Benjamin himself, and Bp. Nikolai's suggestion that perhaps Bp. Benjamin watched it with his nephew is simply a lurid accusation with no evidence.

The description of Bishop Benjamin's behavior after being arrested was particularly strange to me.  Has Bishop Nikolai ever actually been around a drunk person before?  Bishop Benjamin's alleged behavior was not at all out of character for a drunk person, and he's an alcoholic, which means he is vulnerable to drinking to excess.
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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2011, 05:22:10 AM »
I bet this person will be the first to set up an Orthodox WikiLeaks site!
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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2011, 01:31:02 AM »

Nothing.

Do yourself a favor. Stay away from that site: it's toxic.

I agree. I've stumbled onto her site before.  She not very kind to those she disagrees with.

It seems to me she has anger issues.  I think calling Kh. Frederica Matthews-Green "Freddie" is pretty disrespectful, no matter what one may think of her.  And calling Met. JONAH a "fat poseur" is way over the top. 

I think its kind of funny that she hurls this stuff out there and then has comments off. 
She is actually a he:he's a "Konvertsy" when it comes to gender. Hence the anger, I'm sure.
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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2011, 01:40:34 PM »

Nothing.

Do yourself a favor. Stay away from that site: it's toxic.

I agree. I've stumbled onto her site before.  She not very kind to those she disagrees with.

It seems to me she has anger issues.  I think calling Kh. Frederica Matthews-Green "Freddie" is pretty disrespectful, no matter what one may think of her.  And calling Met. JONAH a "fat poseur" is way over the top. 

I think its kind of funny that she hurls this stuff out there and then has comments off. 
She is actually a he:he's a "Konvertsy" when it comes to gender. Hence the anger, I'm sure.

Add all of that to a form of extreme, xenophobic Russophilsm and you have one potent mix for sure.

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« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2011, 10:34:37 AM »
Do you know how I can contact the editor of that blog? An email address would be sufficient.

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« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2011, 10:48:11 AM »
Do you know how I can contact the editor of that blog? An email address would be sufficient.

TIA

Beware of what you wish for, it might come true. Good luck if you contact them and keep us posted. Any response should be entertaining for sure!

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« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2011, 11:04:00 AM »
I've found kinda guestbook of her blog so I posted this there. I wonder whether she approves it.

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Greetings,

My name is Michał Kalina and I happen to be the author of the newsreport you have translated and posted here.

I would like to rectify two things you have written about our website. Firstly Cerkiew.pl is not the official site of the Polish Autocephalous Orthodox Church. The official site of the Church of Poland is Orthodox.pl. Secondly we had not prepared the newsreport beforehand. We made it after Metropolitan Nicholas' death thanks to the materials published on the site of the American Carpatho Russian Orthodox Diocese.

We are thankful for the interest you have in our site but we prefer our materials not to be used for attacking the Orthodox Church in America for which we have a great esteem.

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« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2011, 11:31:47 AM »
What I find real funny about his argument is that the OCA is the only major American jurisdiction that has even posted anything about Met. Nicholas' passing. GOARCH, Antiochian.org and even the Episcopal Assembly web sites lack any mention. GOARCH and the ACROD are both under the EP and they have yet to post anything, why is she not be critical of them?

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« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2011, 11:40:26 AM »
I've found kinda guestbook of her blog so I posted this there. I wounder whether she approves it.

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Greetings,

My name is Michał Kalina and I happen to be the author of the newsreport you have translated and posted here.

I would like to rectify two things you have written about our website. Firstly Cerkiew.pl is not the official site of the Polish Autocephalous Orthodox Church. The official site of the Church of Poland is Orthodox.pl. Secondly we had not prepared the newsreport beforehand. We made it after Metropolitan Nicholas' death thanks to the materials published on the site of the American Carpatho Russian Orthodox Diocese.

We are thankful for the interest you have in our site but we prefer our materials not to be used for attacking the Orthodox Church in America for which we have a great esteem.

Michał Kalina

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I suspect the OCA website people didn't expect His Eminence to repose so quickly, and did what they could to honor him after the news was announced.
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« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2011, 11:43:09 AM »
What I find real funny about his argument is that the OCA is the only major American jurisdiction that has even posted anything about Met. Nicholas' passing. GOARCH, Antiochian.org and even the Episcopal Assembly web sites lack any mention. GOARCH and the ACROD are both under the EP and they have yet to post anything, why is she not be critical of them?

This man is pure evil, a true son of Satan!

I think you mean UOC-USA, as ACROD certainly has information posted about it.

What he does is pure evil, definitely.  Such surpassing hatred and cruelty.
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« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2011, 11:44:25 AM »
UOC-USA posted it too.

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« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2011, 01:36:09 PM »
I've found kinda guestbook of her blog so I posted this there. I wonder whether she approves it.
Be forewarned that he takes a vendetta on anybody who appears to disagree with him (regardless of actual disagreement), and he has a very long memory.
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« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2011, 01:54:14 PM »
I've found kinda guestbook of her blog so I posted this there. I wonder whether she approves it.
Be forewarned that he takes a vendetta on anybody who appears to disagree with him (regardless of actual disagreement), and he has a very long memory.

Yeah?  I actually got quoted on his website, and haven't been hunted down by the mighty Varangian warriors yet.  He's all bark and no bite.  The best he can do is come up with an incomprehensible, derogatory nickname for you and include you in his litany of the accursed.
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« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2011, 02:16:55 PM »
I've found kinda guestbook of her blog so I posted this there. I wonder whether she approves it.
Be forewarned that he takes a vendetta on anybody who appears to disagree with him (regardless of actual disagreement), and he has a very long memory.

Yeah?  I actually got quoted on his website, and haven't been hunted down by the mighty Varangian warriors yet.  He's all bark and no bite.  The best he can do is come up with an incomprehensible, derogatory nickname for you and include you in his litany of the accursed.
That's more or less what I meant. Some people don't like being called names on websites that -- inexplicably -- get more hits than they should.
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« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2011, 03:45:04 PM »
Word to the wise in the game of internets, if you are going to provocative toward anyone who might be willing to spend time and energy litigating whatever comments you write about them, it pays to have libel insurance. If you are a home owner, you can add it to your standard umbrella package for a pittance.

Because of trivial litigating due to internet mud-slinging, those libel policies are starting to become slightly more expensive.

And I doubt many here would truly get into to a war of attrition with someone over the internet, but if you do, you need be to upfront with the insurance companies about the nature of the content of the material you create so that they cannot denying you protection later.

I am speaking from the perspective of a US citizen obviously. The nature of libel on the internet is very fuzzy and probably will remain so. Just saying.

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« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2011, 06:28:20 PM »
Being slated by an American blogger influenced with conspiracy theories is the last thing I'm afraid of.
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« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2011, 07:44:42 PM »
I still can't wrap my head around what this blog even is.
Is this person actually a transsexual? What is his/her agenda? Are they actually Russian, or do they just like Russia?
I suppose I don't really want the answers to any of these questions, I'm just banging my head out loud.

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« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2011, 08:24:25 PM »
I don't trust him/her for the sole reason of the horrible layout and formatting of the blog. Horrors!

(I just read a thread where people were talking about Christian bloggers TYPING LIKE THIS! And I laughed for the next 15 minutes, because I have received invites from many of those blogs. This blog provoked a similar reaction.)

ETA: LOL. And he/she put an RT video on the blog. LOL. Not surprised!
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She's touring the facility/and picking up slack.
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« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2011, 09:16:08 PM »
I still can't wrap my head around what this blog even is.
Is this person actually a transsexual?

The blog author started off life as a man named Stan.  At some point he had sex reassignment surgery and assumed a female identity, Barbara-Marie, or "Vara" for short.  Many Orthodox people who are not part of his fanclub refer to him by the pronouns pertaining to the gender God gave him.  

For the record, all of this information is easily accessible by internet searches for public postings made by the man himself, and should not be construed as a violation of his privacy.

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What is his/her agenda?

As best as I can tell, it's to preserve "Russian Orthodoxy" in the United States in opposition to two different groups, those he calls "renovationists", and those he calls "konvertsy".  

Renovationists are/were a real group, but she extends the definition to fit people like Fr. Alexander Schmemann and Fr. John Meyendorff, who taught things like it's okay to commune more than four times per year, and it's fine if your church does not have a six-story iconostasis.  The real renovationists taught extremely wacky stuff under the nascent Soviet regime, and pulled away from the real Orthodox Church to create the farcical "Living Church".

"Konvertsy" is his term for converts to Orthodoxy who don't know their place, so to speak, particularly former Episcopalians.  He is offended that many of them receive ordination and begin teaching in and serving the Church, when he believes they have not received sufficient formation in the Church.  That might be a fair point, but you have to understand what his idea of sufficient formation would be.  He views the unreserved condemnation of abortion and homosexual activity as something the "konvertsy" brought into the Church, among other things.  He does view abortion as wrong, but insists that it should be kept legal, and that active and partnered homosexuals are allowed to remain in good standing in the Church as long as they are quiet about it.  Anyone who doesn't feel the way he does about these (and other issues) lacks proper formation in Orthodoxy, and should either be silenced, or leave the Orthodox Church.

In short, "renovationists" are cradle Orthodox he doesn't like, and "konvertsy" are convert Orthodox he doesn't like.

All of this is drawn out in numerous blog postings.  Naturally, Metropolitan Jonah of the OCA and St. Vladimir's Seminary are among his bugbears.

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Are they actually Russian, or do they just like Russia?

He is at least a partial descendant of Russian emigres, but has lived his whole life in America, AFAIK.  His knowledge of Russian is sufficient to translate articles from Russian, hence the basis of the blog is to translate Russian church news for American readers.

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I suppose I don't really want the answers to any of these questions, I'm just banging my head out loud.

...oh.  :)  Well, now they're here for somebody else!
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« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2011, 04:37:53 AM »
Well thanks for the info, anyhow.

It's amazing what types of people you can find on the Internet  ???
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« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2011, 10:14:13 AM »
I've found kinda guestbook of her blog so I posted this there. I wounder whether she approves it.

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Greetings,

My name is Michał Kalina and I happen to be the author of the newsreport you have translated and posted here.

I would like to rectify two things you have written about our website. Firstly Cerkiew.pl is not the official site of the Polish Autocephalous Orthodox Church. The official site of the Church of Poland is Orthodox.pl. Secondly we had not prepared the newsreport beforehand. We made it after Metropolitan Nicholas' death thanks to the materials published on the site of the American Carpatho Russian Orthodox Diocese.

We are thankful for the interest you have in our site but we prefer our materials not to be used for attacking the Orthodox Church in America for which we have a great esteem.

Michał Kalina

:D

I suspect the OCA website people didn't expect His Eminence to repose so quickly, and did what they could to honor him after the news was announced.


Not true among the faithful of our parish.  I was acquainted with Bishop Nikolai, and I do not believe he himself while he was in good health wished to do harm to others.  We have been praying for him every service for over a year.  I had not heard of his passing.  Memory Eternal!

However, since I have not found a mention of Bp Nikolai of Alaska having passed on, I wonder if  we have him confused with the Bishop Nikolai of the Carpatho Rus Orthodox?

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« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2011, 10:45:47 AM »
I've found kinda guestbook of her blog so I posted this there. I wounder whether she approves it.

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Greetings,

My name is Michał Kalina and I happen to be the author of the newsreport you have translated and posted here.

I would like to rectify two things you have written about our website. Firstly Cerkiew.pl is not the official site of the Polish Autocephalous Orthodox Church. The official site of the Church of Poland is Orthodox.pl. Secondly we had not prepared the newsreport beforehand. We made it after Metropolitan Nicholas' death thanks to the materials published on the site of the American Carpatho Russian Orthodox Diocese.

We are thankful for the interest you have in our site but we prefer our materials not to be used for attacking the Orthodox Church in America for which we have a great esteem.

Michał Kalina

:D

I suspect the OCA website people didn't expect His Eminence to repose so quickly, and did what they could to honor him after the news was announced.


Not true among the faithful of our parish.  I was acquainted with Bishop Nikolai, and I do not believe he himself while he was in good health wished to do harm to others.  We have been praying for him every service for over a year.  I had not heard of his passing.  Memory Eternal!

However, since I have not found a mention of Bp Nikolai of Alaska having passed on, I wonder if  we have him confused with the Bishop Nikolai of the Carpatho Rus Orthodox?



Yes, you do. http://www.acrod.org/metropolitan

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« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2011, 11:14:28 AM »
I hadn't realized Bishop Nikolai of Sitka was in ill health too. I have the feeling that he will not be as missed as Metropolitan Nicholas is :-/.
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« Reply #40 on: March 15, 2011, 11:16:27 AM »
I hadn't realized Bishop Nikolai of Sitka was in ill health too. I have the feeling that he will not be as missed as Metropolitan Nicholas is :-/.

That is also an unkind observation. Perhaps it could have gone without stating.

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« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2011, 11:36:45 AM »
My apologies! I was just surprised anyone could mix up Metropolitan Nicholas of blessed memory and Bishop Nikolai :-).
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« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2011, 12:56:53 PM »
My apologies! I was just surprised anyone could mix up Metropolitan Nicholas of blessed memory and Bishop Nikolai :-).

Well, I've seen people confuse Archbishop Dmitri (OCA), Bishop Demetri (AOANA), and Archbishop Demetrios (GOARCH).  All verrrrrry different people, with very similar-sounding names.

Bishop Nikolai (Soraich), former bishop of Alaska, does happen to be suffering from cancer, too.  Prayers for his life and health would surely not go amiss, and would be most appropriate and much appreciated.  Leadership mistakes do not erase his essential humanity or the image of God he bears.
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« Reply #43 on: March 15, 2011, 01:38:10 PM »
Well, I've seen people confuse Archbishop Dmitri (OCA), Bishop Demetri (AOANA), and Archbishop Demetrios (GOARCH).  All verrrrrry different people, with very similar-sounding names.

These are the same names.

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« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2011, 02:10:38 PM »
Well, I've seen people confuse Archbishop Dmitri (OCA), Bishop Demetri (AOANA), and Archbishop Demetrios (GOARCH).  All verrrrrry different people, with very similar-sounding names.

These are the same names.

He means different variants of the same expressed in or transliterated to English. Like Michael, Michal, Mike, Mikey might all be the same name, but people may be confused as to who was who or which way one or the other prefers. Hope that helps.