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« on: February 11, 2011, 05:16:00 PM » |
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So where do I exactly light candles in the Narthex? I know there are candles available for 10 dollars are those the big ones (used for at the Iconostastis) and not the skinny ones?
Do you just grab a skinny candle and light it? LOL everytime I go in for Orthos nobody is really around to help, so yeah...
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2011, 05:23:36 PM » |
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So where do I exactly light candles in the Narthex? I know there are candles available for 10 dollars are those the big ones (used for at the Iconostastis) and not the skinny ones?
Do you just grab a skinny candle and light it? LOL everytime I go in for Orthos nobody is really around to help, so yeah...
Typically there are two places for the laity to light candles and say private prayers. One, for the living, and another for the dead - sometimes accompanied by icons as well. There are many variations between mission churches and cathedrals, but if you get to the service early enough you can watch the others light the candles, like at the beginning of Hours before Divine Liturgy. This will give you the direction you need. |
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2011, 05:24:22 PM » |
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Usually, for the skinny candles, you put your money in the box, take a candle, and put it in the sandbox or candle holder. If it's a candle holder, you hold the bottom of the candle over a flame after lighting to melt the bottom so that, when you stick it in the older, it sticks and doesn't fall over.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2011, 05:28:43 PM » |
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So you get there before any other candles are lit?? You must get there early! I usually just grab one or two (there is usually a donation box close by to put 50 cents or a dollar into) and I use the candles that are lit to light my own. I've never gone to Orthros before and not seen other candles lit. There are usually lighters hidden somewhere, but I personally would wait until someone lights the first (usually a member of the clergy) instead of fishing around through cabinets looking for one.  edit: also, if you are fortunate enough to have beeswax candles there (they are yellowish and smell kind of like honey) those are typically more expensive to make compared to the paraffin wax ones (white), so take that into consideration while donating. |
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2011, 05:32:28 PM » |
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So where do I exactly light candles in the Narthex? I know there are candles available for 10 dollars are those the big ones (used for at the Iconostastis) and not the skinny ones?
Do you just grab a skinny candle and light it? LOL everytime I go in for Orthos nobody is really around to help, so yeah...
Typically there are two places for the laity to light candles and say private prayers. One, for the living, and another for the dead - sometimes accompanied by icons as well. There are many variations between mission churches and cathedrals, but if you get to the service early enough you can watch the others light the candles, like at the beginning of Hours before Divine Liturgy. This will give you the direction you need. We have two 'sandboxes', one on each side of the aisle, each with their own icon. I didn't know that one of them was for saying prayers for the dead, and the other was for the living! I usually just lit one on each side for balance, praying for different needs. I will think about that from now on though, thanks for that! |
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2011, 05:44:11 PM » |
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We have a variety of places to light a candle with your prayers.
As previously said, if looking at the iconostasis, to your right is for the living, and to your left is for the departed. However, I don't think that is written in stone anywhere. God hears your prayers, no matter where you say them.
We have little glass votives - blue/red, large glass candles (last all month) and the skinny beeswax candles.
We do not light ours in the narthex, but, actually up front, near the iconostasis. There are a number of brass candle holders for the tapers and tables/stands for the glass votives.
However, I have often seen the sandboxes in the narthex. Our narthex is simply too small to accommodate even an icon stand, much less a location for candles.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2011, 06:52:35 PM » |
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So you get there before any other candles are lit??
He obviously hasn't developed the last and full stage of the Orthodox phronema: being late. |
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2011, 06:57:08 PM » |
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So where do I exactly light candles in the Narthex? I know there are candles available for 10 dollars are those the big ones (used for at the Iconostastis) and not the skinny ones?
Do you just grab a skinny candle and light it? LOL everytime I go in for Orthos nobody is really around to help, so yeah...
Typically there are two places for the laity to light candles and say private prayers. One, for the living, and another for the dead - sometimes accompanied by icons as well. There are many variations between mission churches and cathedrals, but if you get to the service early enough you can watch the others light the candles, like at the beginning of Hours before Divine Liturgy. This will give you the direction you need. We have two 'sandboxes', one on each side of the aisle, each with their own icon. I didn't know that one of them was for saying prayers for the dead, and the other was for the living! I usually just lit one on each side for balance, praying for different needs. I will think about that from now on though, thanks for that! I think often the candles for the dead often are placed in a special field of candleholders in front of a crucifix. I think these are more common in Slavic churches than Greek ones (I've personally only seen them in Russian churches), and I've only seen them on the right (Christ) side of the nave. Here's a photo: http://www.istok.net/church-product/Panikhida-table-cover-2.html |
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2011, 07:01:14 PM » |
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So you get there before any other candles are lit??
He obviously hasn't developed the last and full stage of the Orthodox phronema: being late. No, young padawan learner, the final stage of the phronema is not going at all. |
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2011, 07:04:48 PM » |
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So you get there before any other candles are lit??
He obviously hasn't developed the last and full stage of the Orthodox phronema: being late. No, young padawan learner, the final stage of the phronema is not going at all. Thank you for the correction Master. |
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2011, 08:19:51 PM » |
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Thanks for the responses, makes sense. So you get there before any other candles are lit??
He obviously hasn't developed the last and full stage of the Orthodox phronema: being late. No, young padawan learner, the final stage of the phronema is not going at all. ROFL Hey how come you never responded to my PM? Hope it didn't sound to awkward, I came across your Icon corner on a Catholic forum and had some questions about it... |
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“Without music, life would be a mistake.”
“The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.”
"Face the facts of being what you are, for that is what changes what you are."
"We see at once that the words absolute, divine, eternal, and so on do not express what is implied in them.
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2011, 09:43:51 PM » |
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Thanks for the responses, makes sense. So you get there before any other candles are lit??
He obviously hasn't developed the last and full stage of the Orthodox phronema: being late. No, young padawan learner, the final stage of the phronema is not going at all. ROFL Hey how come you never responded to my PM? Hope it didn't sound to awkward, I came across your Icon corner on a Catholic forum and had some questions about it...  |
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2011, 09:45:42 PM » |
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LOL that's exactly how it is man.
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“Without music, life would be a mistake.”
“The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.”
"Face the facts of being what you are, for that is what changes what you are."
"We see at once that the words absolute, divine, eternal, and so on do not express what is implied in them.
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2011, 11:32:03 PM » |
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Hey how come you never responded to my PM? Hope it didn't sound to awkward, I came across your Icon corner on a Catholic forum and had some questions about it... Well, I was just busy being awesome and forgot about it. I'll see if I can muster the energy... |
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2011, 03:45:19 AM » |
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I think often the candles for the dead often are placed in a special field of candleholders in front of a crucifix. I think these are more common in Slavic churches than Greek ones (I've personally only seen them in Russian churches),
Never seen a specific candlestand for the souls in any Greek church I've set foot in, over several decades. And, in Greek churches, the crucifix is placed behind the altar table, not in the nave. and I've only seen them on the right (Christ) side of the nave. I've seen plenty on the left side of the nave, including in the Russian church in my neck of the woods.  |
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