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How is Vladimir Sergeyevich Solovyov viewed by the Orthodox Church?
« on: February 02, 2011, 02:31:30 PM »
Just wodnering if anyone knows how Vladimir Solovyov is viewed by the Orthodox Church, officially, or otherwise?
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Re: How is Vladimir Sergeyevich Solovyov viewed by the Orthodox Church?
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2011, 02:43:10 PM »
Quote from: rimlyanin on February 02, 2011, 02:31:30 PM
Just wodnering if anyone knows how Vladimir Solovyov is viewed by the Orthodox Church, officially, or otherwise?
Most Orthodox I know consider him a gadflay. His Sophilogy was condemned as a heresy.
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Re: How is Vladimir Sergeyevich Solovyov viewed by the Orthodox Church?
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2011, 03:17:19 PM »
Quote from: ialmisry on February 02, 2011, 02:43:10 PM
His Sophilogy was condemned as a heresy.

Would you happen to know where I could find the Orthodox Church's language condemning his sophiology as a heresy?


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Re: How is Vladimir Sergeyevich Solovyov viewed by the Orthodox Church?
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2011, 03:20:42 PM »
Quote from: ialmisry on February 02, 2011, 02:43:10 PM
Most Orthodox I know consider him a gadflay.

I wonder if those people have read any of his works?  (I am just introducing myself to him and his writings, so it may be a while before I have an informed opinion on him.)
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Re: How is Vladimir Sergeyevich Solovyov viewed by the Orthodox Church?
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2011, 05:47:51 PM »
He's not Orthodox, but an apostate to Roman Catholicism.

As for Sophiology, it was condemned by the Moscow Patriarchate and the Russian Church Abroad in the 1930s, IIRC. The turbulent times prevented church trials from happening and specific proponents from being disciplined.
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Re: How is Vladimir Sergeyevich Solovyov viewed by the Orthodox Church?
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2011, 11:29:48 AM »
Quote from: Shanghaiski on February 02, 2011, 05:47:51 PM
As for Sophiology, it was condemned by the Moscow Patriarchate and the Russian Church Abroad in the 1930s, IIRC. The turbulent times prevented church trials from happening and specific proponents from being disciplined.

Is there a philosophy(er) that is endorsed by or often used as a basis for Orthodox theology?
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Re: How is Vladimir Sergeyevich Solovyov viewed by the Orthodox Church?
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2011, 11:32:05 AM »
Quote from: rimlyanin on February 03, 2011, 11:29:48 AM
Quote from: Shanghaiski on February 02, 2011, 05:47:51 PM
As for Sophiology, it was condemned by the Moscow Patriarchate and the Russian Church Abroad in the 1930s, IIRC. The turbulent times prevented church trials from happening and specific proponents from being disciplined.

Is there a philosophy(er) that is endorsed by or often used as a basis for Orthodox theology?

No. Orthodoxy comes from divine revelation, and is articulated and theologized by the Holy Fathers.
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Re: How is Vladimir Sergeyevich Solovyov viewed by the Orthodox Church?
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2011, 11:51:49 AM »
Quote from: Shanghaiski on February 03, 2011, 11:32:05 AM
Quote from: rimlyanin on February 03, 2011, 11:29:48 AM
Quote from: Shanghaiski on February 02, 2011, 05:47:51 PM
As for Sophiology, it was condemned by the Moscow Patriarchate and the Russian Church Abroad in the 1930s, IIRC. The turbulent times prevented church trials from happening and specific proponents from being disciplined.

Is there a philosophy(er) that is endorsed by or often used as a basis for Orthodox theology?

No. Orthodoxy comes from divine revelation, and is articulated and theologized by the Holy Fathers.

they do use philosophy, however: St. Clement of Alexandria used Stoicism, Origin Platonism, St. John of Damascus Aristoteleanism.  But only as a tool to explain revelation.  Not as a source. As soon as it is used as a basis of dogma alongside revelation, disaster sets in.
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Re: How is Vladimir Sergeyevich Solovyov viewed by the Orthodox Church?
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2011, 12:54:55 PM »
Quote from: ialmisry on February 03, 2011, 11:51:49 AM
they do use philosophy, however: St. Clement of Alexandria used Stoicism, Origin Platonism, St. John of Damascus Aristoteleanism.  But only as a tool to explain revelation.  Not as a source. As soon as it is used as a basis of dogma alongside revelation, disaster sets in.

I guess that is what I was getting at...I will have to do some reading.  Thank you.
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Re: How is Vladimir Sergeyevich Solovyov viewed by the Orthodox Church?
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2011, 05:20:23 PM »
Quote from: rimlyanin on February 03, 2011, 11:29:48 AM
Is there a philosophy(er) that is endorsed by or often used as a basis for Orthodox theology?

It is better to take Orthodox theology as a basis for philosophy, rather than the inverse. Richard Swinburne has done this.
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