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« on: February 02, 2011, 02:13:56 AM » |
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What exactly is the idea behind saying something like "Memory eternal" when someone dies?
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2011, 02:30:18 AM » |
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It's a shorter way of saying "Grant rest, O Lord, to the soul of Thy servant N, and make his memory eternal!" ie Remember Thy servant in Thy Kingdom, at the Dread Judgment.
It's a common way to pray - Remember N, Remember NN, Remember NNN until you're all NNNN'd out.
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2011, 02:36:24 AM » |
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Thanks for asking, Anastasia. I wasn't sure of its origin or full meaning either.
Can you field, "Many Years" too, authio?
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"Paint a bunch of icons of our Lord and the saints and then kiss them. Also, pray to Mary after she dies in the future."
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2011, 04:19:01 AM » |
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"Eternal Memory" is the hymn that is chanted as part of Trisagion Services, which begin with "Holy God, Holy Mighty..." (the Trisagion or Thrice-Holy prayers), Memorial Services, and Funeral Services for the dead. It is chanted near the end of the service, three times.
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2011, 12:08:55 PM » |
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Can you field, "Many Years" too, authio?
Hmm? Field? |
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2011, 04:25:48 PM » |
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Can you field, "Many Years" too, authio?
Hmm? Field? Meaning something along the lines of "taking up or handling or taking care of something". In other words, he wants you to answer what "many years" means as well. |
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2011, 12:43:06 AM » |
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@ Asterikos - thanks.
@ Cognomen - I only remember "many years" being part of "Grant, O Lord, a prosperous life and success in all endeavors to Thy servant N, and preserve him for many years." God grant you many years is then sung with great joy, and sometimes results in partial loss of hearing.
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2011, 12:45:52 AM » |
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2011, 01:03:38 AM » |
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^^^ Ditto. |
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2011, 01:24:26 AM » |
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I've had it explained to me that memory eternal does not refer to our memory of the departed person, as our memories are finite and temporal, but rather refers to God's eternal regard and lovingkindess for His departed servant. No doubt someone could say something more about this.
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2011, 04:54:36 AM » |
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Can you field, "Many Years" too, authio? I suppose that, since I have signed virtually every post that I've ever made at this forum or at ByzCath with 'Many years', I should speak to this. It is an abbreviated form of the prayer asking that God grant the person to whom it's addressed many years - 'May God grant you many years' Many years, Neil |
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2011, 05:08:58 AM » |
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I've had it explained to me that memory eternal does not refer to our memory of the departed person, as our memories are finite and temporal, but rather refers to God's eternal regard and lovingkindess for His departed servant. No doubt someone could say something more about this. akimori, I would agree with you in part. An aged and venerable priest, Father Archimandrite Orestes, of blessed memory, once told me that he understood the prayerful hope expressed is both that the departed be remembered forever in the hearts, minds, and prayers of the faithful and, more especially, that God 'remember' the person in His kingdom and unto the ages of ages. 'remember' being understood in the context of the supplicative prayer of St Dismas - 'Remember me, Lord, when You come into Your Kingdom' ('Accept' me into Your Kingdom) Many years, Neil Addendum - and before anyone asks - 'of blessed memory' is an expression of one's belief that those of whom it is said are remembered as being faithful and devoted servants of God, whom we trust are in His presence. |
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"Not only is it unnecessary to adopt the customs of the Latin Rite to manifest one's Catholicism, it is an offense against the unity of the Church."
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