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Ice Church in Romania
« on: February 01, 2011, 11:52:26 AM »

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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2011, 01:27:36 PM »
This reports says that the Orthodox did not participate in it.

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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2011, 01:35:15 PM »
My first thought was about the melting of this church, that will happen inevitably. The faces in those icons will all start to melt. To me, it looks seriously blasphemous.

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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2011, 01:39:29 PM »
Quite silly  . But it was a German's idea. I do not know wether the priests are Greek-Catholic or Orthodox, though.
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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2011, 02:54:59 PM »
Quite silly  . But it was a German's idea. I do not know wether the priests are Greek-Catholic or Orthodox, though.

I agree that it is silly, the one priest wore a type of  'hat' that led me to believe he was Greek Catholic though.

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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2011, 04:59:37 PM »
Definitely Greek Catholic.
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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2011, 06:35:31 PM »
Definitely Greek Catholic.
How do you know?
It is impossible to tell, plus in the area there are not that many Greek-Catholics (Balea- Lac).

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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2011, 11:25:53 PM »
Definitely Greek Catholic.
How do you know?
It is impossible to tell, plus in the area there are not that many Greek-Catholics (Balea- Lac).


It looks like one of the priests on the left is wearing a biretta. Those certainly are not Orthodox vestments.

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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2011, 02:06:09 AM »
Well the crucifix at the center stage seems to make me believe it was a catholic undertaking...

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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2011, 06:17:43 PM »
Definitely Greek Catholic.
How do you know?
It is impossible to tell, plus in the area there are not that many Greek-Catholics (Balea- Lac).
It looks like one of the priests on the left is wearing a biretta. Those certainly are not Orthodox vestments.
Correct, this is a latin-rite RC priest

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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2011, 06:19:59 PM »
My first thought was about the melting of this church, that will happen inevitably. The faces in those icons will all start to melt. To me, it looks seriously blasphemous.

Blasphemy is a serious charge of a sin unto death.   I believe you are misusing it here.   

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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2011, 04:05:11 AM »
My first thought was about the melting of this church, that will happen inevitably. The faces in those icons will all start to melt. To me, it looks seriously blasphemous.

Blasphemy is a serious charge of a sin unto death.   I believe you are misusing it here.   
So, if I take a black marker and paint the face of a saint, isn't it blasphemous, as I'm destroying the icon? If you make an icon that you know will be corrupted soon, because of heat, isn't it blasphemous right from the start?

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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2011, 05:13:23 AM »
A principle of iconography is that an icon is made of materials which are not ephemeral, i.e. not unstable or unduly fragile or delicate. Ice is an inherently unstable material, unless maintained at a suitable temperature.

There is also the matter of prayer and fasting, both before an icon begins to be painted, and during the painting process. Any information on whether the ice sculptors complied with this requirement?  ;)
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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2011, 07:46:30 AM »
A principle of iconography is that an icon is made of materials which are not ephemeral, i.e. not unstable or unduly fragile or delicate. Ice is an inherently unstable material, unless maintained at a suitable temperature.

There is also the matter of prayer and fasting, both before an icon begins to be painted, and during the painting process. Any information on whether the ice sculptors complied with this requirement?  ;)

Apparently this was not an Orthodox project, so how it was carried out really shouldn't concern us.

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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2011, 09:09:43 AM »
Let's not be so serious about this. Don't let it worry you. For sure, unlike many of our issues, it is just going to melt away. I thought it was a 'novelty' story and didn't even post it under news.

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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2011, 01:35:35 PM »
Hello
I do not think that those priests are orthodox. 2 years ago, when this building was constructed for the first time, the Metropolitan of Ardeal, IPS Laurentiu, has forbidden the implication of the orthodox priests in this project. The ,,church" was not consacrated by an orthodox priest and the priests are not allowed to  minister there. He said that a church must be for forever, not for melting.

http://www.crestinortodox.ro/stiri/jurnalul-national/mitropolitul-ardealului-permite-oficierea-slujbelor-biserica-gheata-75696.html

The consacracion of a church can be done only by a bishop, not a priest (at least in the Romanian Orthodox Church).

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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2011, 01:56:27 PM »
I just have to ask, "Why?"
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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2011, 02:02:19 PM »
I just have to ask, "Why?"
Is that the philosopher in you?  ;)  :laugh:

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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2011, 06:03:18 AM »
Situated at an altitude of 2,034 meters in the Fagaras Mountains (Sibiu County), the ice service is made of astronomic chunks of ice extracted from Balea Lake, reports Agerpres word message. The layer of the religion is of 100 sqm and it faculty score the content to invited an figure of 40 to 50 visitors.
Prior to the building's authoritative porta, a aggroup of priests of different religions gift hold an open-air operate, with the function of the Christly solemnisation of the Epiphany (commemorated on January 6). Asvina the previous geezerhood, this circumstance module consist in the "blessing" of the business materials, as fine as the otherwise ice buildings in the expanse - the Ice Hotel and the Chalet.
If withstand conditions are not extremum, the ice service present be waiting by the end of the period, in the position where deceive has reached a elevation of 82 centimeters. This is the fifth ice religion constructed in the atlantic, the prime one having been erected in the 2006-2007 period. Reservations for wedding know already been made at the service, as a Country distich is thinking on a affair in Mar to pretend their vows.
As a shaper of inspiration, the ice antiquity holds a service from Malancrav, the community from Sibiu where Majuscule Britain's Prince Physicist has a residence.
In ordination to tug the Ice Hotel, one would love to aim to Balea Cascada and from there, screw the conductor car to Balea Lac.

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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2011, 09:22:48 AM »
Situated at an altitude of 2,034 meters in the Fagaras Mountains (Sibiu County), the ice service is made of astronomic chunks of ice extracted from Balea Lake, reports Agerpres word message. The layer of the religion is of 100 sqm and it faculty score the content to invited an figure of 40 to 50 visitors.
Prior to the building's authoritative porta, a aggroup of priests of different religions gift hold an open-air operate, with the function of the Christly solemnisation of the Epiphany (commemorated on January 6). Asvina the previous geezerhood, this circumstance module consist in the "blessing" of the business materials, as fine as the otherwise ice buildings in the expanse - the Ice Hotel and the Chalet.
If withstand conditions are not extremum, the ice service present be waiting by the end of the period, in the position where deceive has reached a elevation of 82 centimeters. This is the fifth ice religion constructed in the atlantic, the prime one having been erected in the 2006-2007 period. Reservations for wedding know already been made at the service, as a Country distich is thinking on a affair in Mar to pretend their vows.
As a shaper of inspiration, the ice antiquity holds a service from Malancrav, the community from Sibiu where Majuscule Britain's Prince Physicist has a residence.
In ordination to tug the Ice Hotel, one would love to aim to Balea Cascada and from there, screw the conductor car to Balea Lac.


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Re: Ice Church in Romania
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2011, 06:05:25 PM »
if u post it in romanian, there are some here who can translate it a bit better  ;)