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Acquaintance who committed suicide
« on: January 06, 2011, 07:13:25 PM »
Please pray for an acquaintance of mine, a dear young man of about 17 years named Kyle, who was struggling with depression, who I just learned has committed suicide.  :'( :'( :'(
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 07:48:59 PM »
+Lord, have mercy! Memory Eternal.
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 08:29:19 PM »
Lord have Mercy.

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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 08:35:45 PM »
Lord have mercy.
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2011, 09:35:00 PM »
Lord, have mercy.
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2011, 09:44:35 PM »
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2011, 10:34:37 PM »
Lord have Mercy!
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2011, 11:15:15 PM »
I know that this forum is supposed to be strictly for prayers, but I figure it best to consolidate this as it is on the same topic.

How are we supposed to (religiously) treat the deaths of non-Orthodox. Are we simply to pray and ask for prayers on an individuals basis? Or is there something to be done in the Church?
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 12:48:45 AM »
May God forgive him.
You can light candles at least in our churches, to answer your question. I bet there would be priests willing to say some form of a "parastas"/"panihida" as well.

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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2011, 01:45:54 AM »
“Akathist for the repose for those who have fallen asleep.”

A glorious Akathist and printed at Jordanville Monastery with the blessing of the First Hierarch of the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad

It speaks of the forgiveness of sins after death even for those who died without repentance. 

This is from Ikos 5:

Forgive, O Lord, those who have died without repentance.

Save those who have committed suicide in the darkness of their mind, that

the flame of their sinfulness may be extinguished in the ocean of Thy grace.

O Lord of unutterable Love, remember Thy servants who have

fallen asleep.




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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2011, 03:34:20 AM »
Prayers....

Lord Have Mercy ...Amen Amen
May His Memory Be Eternal...Amen Amen

For There is no man that livith and sinneth not.....Other than Our ,
Most Blessed Saviour, Christ the Lord...Amen Amen

Prayers To the Most Blessed Theotokos ,that she helps him, and covers his soul,
with her mantle of protection....Amen Amen
ГОСПОДЕ ГОСПОДЕ ,ПОГЛЕДАЈ СА НЕБА ,ДОЂИ И ПОСЕТИ ТВОЈ ВИНОГРАД ТВОЈА ДЕСНИЦА ПОСАДИЛА АМИН АМИН.

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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2011, 08:28:44 AM »
Lord have Mercy!
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2011, 10:56:51 AM »
Lord, have mercy.
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2011, 01:10:00 PM »
May God give him rest and forgive him.

You can light candles for him in church and also give alms in his memory or do other kind deeds. Maybe volunteer or work with teen suicide prevention.
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2011, 01:27:13 PM »
I know that this forum is supposed to be strictly for prayers, but I figure it best to consolidate this as it is on the same topic.

How are we supposed to (religiously) treat the deaths of non-Orthodox. Are we simply to pray and ask for prayers on an individuals basis? Or is there something to be done in the Church?

We are the body of Christ.  When you pray for someone, it's as if Christ is interceding.  The Church in the liturgical fashion it is set up can only speak for Orthodox members.

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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2011, 04:27:16 PM »
Lord, have mercy!
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2011, 09:06:12 PM »
+ Memory Eternal
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2011, 04:50:10 PM »
Is there any form of a requiem service that is ever said for non-Orthodox? The young man's 40th day is coming up next Tuesday and I'm trying to figure out how best to handle it.
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2011, 04:51:29 PM »
Akathist for the Dead?
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2011, 05:08:36 PM »
Is there any form of a requiem service that is ever said for non-Orthodox? The young man's 40th day is coming up next Tuesday and I'm trying to figure out how best to handle it.

There is the Canon to St. Varus, which can be prayed for any non-Orthodox who have died or anyone who has committed suicide or died without repentance.

http://www.stvladimiraami.org/sheetmusic/canonstvarus.pdf

Troparion of St Varus the Martyr tone 5
Thou didst follow in the steps of the martyrs/ and contend for the glory of Christ./ Thou wast tied to a beam and restored by the Tree of Life,/ and thine intercessions gladden our souls.

Kontakion of St Varus tone 4
Thou hast followed Christ and drunk His chalice;/ thou didst receive the crown of martyrdom, O holy Varus./ Thou art rejoicing with the Angels: pray unceasingly for our souls.

Here is a prayer to the Holy Martyr Varus for the repose of the non-Orthodox:

"O Holy, wondrous Martyr Varus, who, burning with zeal for the Heavenly King, didst confess Him before thy torturers and didst greatly suffer for Him!

Now the Church doth venerate thee, as one glorified with the glory of heaven
by Christ the Lord, Who granted thee the abundant grace to approach Him boldly. And now, standing before Him together with the Angels, rejoicing on high, beholding the Most Holy Trinity clearly, and enjoying the Uncreated
Light, remember the suffering of our relatives who have died outside the Faith, and accept our pleas, and as thou didst intercede for the unbelieving ancestors of Cleopatra and didst free them from eternal suffering, remember
those who have died unbaptized and have been buried in an ungodly manner, and pray earnestly that they may be delivered from eternal darkness, that we may all, with one mouth and one heart, praise the Most Merciful Creator unto
the ages of ages.
Amen."

The life of the Holy Martyr can be found at this link:

http://holycross-hermitage.com/pages/Orthodox_Life/martyr_varus.htm

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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2011, 05:17:18 PM »
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2011, 05:38:00 PM »
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2011, 06:08:39 PM »
Lord Have Mercy!
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2011, 06:30:16 PM »
Continued prayers.
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Re: Acquaintance who committed suicide
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2011, 06:35:07 PM »
Lord, have mercy!