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« on: February 02, 2011, 08:08:21 AM »

I just wanted to say greetings. I find this site very helpful although I may not overstand all of the topics, I am interested to learn more about Orthodox Christianity and specifically the EOTC. I am going to visit an Arabic Orthodox Church soon. It is very close to my home and I know some of the congregants, but the church is not finished being built, so I do not know when it will be ready, hopefully soon. If I respond to any thread here please know that I am new and don't have any experience with Orthodox Christianity except what I may learn here for now. I will let you all know when I have attended the Church. Respect to All
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Welcome to the forum!
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2011, 08:57:46 AM »

Greetings Kaya!

You might find the below links of interest, as they describe the journey of another Rasta into Orthodoxy.

http://www.roadtoemmaus.net/back_issue_articles/RTE_27/Songs_of_Freedom.pdf

http://ancientfaith.com/podcasts/illuminedheart/from_rastafari_to_orthodoxy
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2011, 05:13:27 PM »

Hi and thanks for Welcoming me. I will read the info from the sites, but I am a Fulfilled Rastafari so I am familiar with the fact that HIM Haile Selassie is not God nor Christ. I am exploring Orthodoxy because I was studying with Protestants initially. Need to get familiar with Orthodox Christians and the differences found when compared to the Protestant teachings. OK, I will ask things as soon as I understand a bit more. God Bless!!
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2011, 09:33:09 PM »

Welcome!   Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2011, 02:56:16 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2011, 02:58:57 AM »

GREEEEETINGS SISTREN!!!! Smiley Smiley Smiley


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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2011, 03:14:38 AM »

I just wanted to say greetings. I find this site very helpful although I may not overstand all of the topics, I am interested to learn more about Orthodox Christianity and specifically the EOTC. I am going to visit an Arabic Orthodox Church soon. It is very close to my home and I know some of the congregants, but the church is not finished being built, so I do not know when it will be ready, hopefully soon. If I respond to any thread here please know that I am new and don't have any experience with Orthodox Christianity except what I may learn here for now. I will let you all know when I have attended the Church. Respect to All
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I see you used the word "Overstand". Man, I haven't heard that term in years. Back in college I use to bump heads with the followers of Dr. Malachi Z York, and they used that term all the time.

I think the 5%ers might use the term as well. I never knew Rastafarians used it.


But welcome to the forum!

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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2011, 03:29:18 AM »

Sis Kaya will be a welcome addition to this forum. She has been doing tremendous work for many years in proclaiming the true Christian teachings of Emperor Haile Selassie amongst fellow Rastas. Because of her labors, many Rastafarians have renounced the idolatry of Selassie worship and have come to faith in Eyesus Kristos. Sis Kaya has been assailed and attacked on many levels, but she is a true Christian Rasta Lioness who stands firmly and lovingly in the Truth of the Saviour. She has a deep knowledge of the Holy Bible, and she has a very loving and compassionate spirit. Sis Kaya has been a great encouragement to me over the years. I am encouraged by her respect for and interest in the Orthodox Church, and I hope and pray that the members of this forum will be of great assistance and upliftment as she seeks more knowledge about the ancient Apostolic Faith.

Welcome once again Sistren!


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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2011, 03:58:39 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2011, 03:44:18 PM »

Welcome to the forum Kaya Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2011, 03:56:29 PM »

I just wanted to say greetings. I find this site very helpful although I may not overstand all of the topics, I am interested to learn more about Orthodox Christianity and specifically the EOTC. I am going to visit an Arabic Orthodox Church soon. It is very close to my home and I know some of the congregants, but the church is not finished being built, so I do not know when it will be ready, hopefully soon. If I respond to any thread here please know that I am new and don't have any experience with Orthodox Christianity except what I may learn here for now. I will let you all know when I have attended the Church. Respect to All
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I see you used the word "Overstand". Man, I haven't heard that term in years. Back in college I use to bump heads with the followers of Dr. Malachi Z York, and they used that term all the time.

I think the 5%ers might use the term as well. I never knew Rastafarians used it.


But welcome to the forum!



I assumed it to be a language issue and nothing to do with 5%ers. I would like to know as well if this is used by Rastafarians.

Never much trouble with the typical bean pie and bow-tie crowd, but the 5%ers weren't to be bumped heads with.
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2011, 03:58:57 PM »

first google hit on "overstand rastafarian"

http://rastareason.wordpress.com/2008/03/11/why-do-rastas-say-overstand-2/
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2011, 05:24:56 PM »


I just wanted to say greetings. I find this site very helpful although I may not overstand all of the topics, I am interested to learn more about Orthodox Christianity and specifically the EOTC. I am going to visit an Arabic Orthodox Church soon. It is very close to my home and I know some of the congregants, but the church is not finished being built, so I do not know when it will be ready, hopefully soon. If I respond to any thread here please know that I am new and don't have any experience with Orthodox Christianity except what I may learn here for now. I will let you all know when I have attended the Church. Respect to All
Sis Kaya IsesaJah


I see you used the word "Overstand". Man, I haven't heard that term in years. Back in college I use to bump heads with the followers of Dr. Malachi Z York, and they used that term all the time.

I think the 5%ers might use the term as well. I never knew Rastafarians used it.


But welcome to the forum!



I assumed it to be a language issue and nothing to do with 5%ers. I would like to know as well if this is used by Rastafarians.

Never much trouble with the typical bean pie and bow-tie crowd, but the 5%ers weren't to be bumped heads with.


Yes I! "Overstand" has always been part of Rasta word-sound. Rastas place great emphasis on the power of words, and thus Rasta speech is always focused on the postive. For example, a Rastaman never says "dedicate," instead it is "livicate." It is never "con-tinually" but instead "I-tinually." Rasta doesn't deal with death and cons. Rastas will also say "over-stand" rather than "under-stand." The language of Rastas is very significant. Rastas are very meticulous with their words so as to always focus on the positive and always be forward moving in their thought and speech.

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I just wanted to say greetings. I find this site very helpful although I may not overstand all of the topics, I am interested to learn more about Orthodox Christianity and specifically the EOTC. I am going to visit an Arabic Orthodox Church soon. It is very close to my home and I know some of the congregants, but the church is not finished being built, so I do not know when it will be ready, hopefully soon. If I respond to any thread here please know that I am new and don't have any experience with Orthodox Christianity except what I may learn here for now. I will let you all know when I have attended the Church. Respect to All
Sis Kaya IsesaJah


I see you used the word "Overstand". Man, I haven't heard that term in years. Back in college I use to bump heads with the followers of Dr. Malachi Z York, and they used that term all the time.

I think the 5%ers might use the term as well. I never knew Rastafarians used it.


But welcome to the forum!



I assumed it to be a language issue and nothing to do with 5%ers. I would like to know as well if this is used by Rastafarians.

Never much trouble with the typical bean pie and bow-tie crowd, but the 5%ers weren't to be bumped heads with.


Yes I! "Overstand" has always been part of Rasta word-sound. Rastas place great emphasis on the power of words, and thus Rasta speech is always focused on the postive. For example, a Rastaman never says "dedicate," instead it is "livicate." It is never "con-tinually" but instead "I-tinually." Rasta doesn't deal with death and cons. Rastas will also say "over-stand" rather than "under-stand." The language of Rastas is very significant. Rastas are very meticulous with their words so as to always focus on the positive and always be forward moving in their thought and speech.

Selam


You do realize though that those examples are not precision in language but rather ignorance?
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2011, 09:17:19 PM »


I just wanted to say greetings. I find this site very helpful although I may not overstand all of the topics, I am interested to learn more about Orthodox Christianity and specifically the EOTC. I am going to visit an Arabic Orthodox Church soon. It is very close to my home and I know some of the congregants, but the church is not finished being built, so I do not know when it will be ready, hopefully soon. If I respond to any thread here please know that I am new and don't have any experience with Orthodox Christianity except what I may learn here for now. I will let you all know when I have attended the Church. Respect to All
Sis Kaya IsesaJah


I see you used the word "Overstand". Man, I haven't heard that term in years. Back in college I use to bump heads with the followers of Dr. Malachi Z York, and they used that term all the time.

I think the 5%ers might use the term as well. I never knew Rastafarians used it.


But welcome to the forum!



I assumed it to be a language issue and nothing to do with 5%ers. I would like to know as well if this is used by Rastafarians.

Never much trouble with the typical bean pie and bow-tie crowd, but the 5%ers weren't to be bumped heads with.


Yes I! "Overstand" has always been part of Rasta word-sound. Rastas place great emphasis on the power of words, and thus Rasta speech is always focused on the postive. For example, a Rastaman never says "dedicate," instead it is "livicate." It is never "con-tinually" but instead "I-tinually." Rasta doesn't deal with death and cons. Rastas will also say "over-stand" rather than "under-stand." The language of Rastas is very significant. Rastas are very meticulous with their words so as to always focus on the positive and always be forward moving in their thought and speech.

Selam


So who were the first to use terms like that? I know the 5% Nation of gods and earths talk that way. And I know Dr. Malachi Z York and his group (Nuwabic, Holy Tabernacle Ministries...or something like that) also talk that way. He probably picked it up from either the Rastas or the 5%ers.


Does the Nation of Islam talk that way as well? I can't remember, but that's where the 5% nation of gods and earths came from.
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2011, 09:29:13 PM »


I just wanted to say greetings. I find this site very helpful although I may not overstand all of the topics, I am interested to learn more about Orthodox Christianity and specifically the EOTC. I am going to visit an Arabic Orthodox Church soon. It is very close to my home and I know some of the congregants, but the church is not finished being built, so I do not know when it will be ready, hopefully soon. If I respond to any thread here please know that I am new and don't have any experience with Orthodox Christianity except what I may learn here for now. I will let you all know when I have attended the Church. Respect to All
Sis Kaya IsesaJah


I see you used the word "Overstand". Man, I haven't heard that term in years. Back in college I use to bump heads with the followers of Dr. Malachi Z York, and they used that term all the time.

I think the 5%ers might use the term as well. I never knew Rastafarians used it.


But welcome to the forum!



I assumed it to be a language issue and nothing to do with 5%ers. I would like to know as well if this is used by Rastafarians.

Never much trouble with the typical bean pie and bow-tie crowd, but the 5%ers weren't to be bumped heads with.


Yes I! "Overstand" has always been part of Rasta word-sound. Rastas place great emphasis on the power of words, and thus Rasta speech is always focused on the postive. For example, a Rastaman never says "dedicate," instead it is "livicate." It is never "con-tinually" but instead "I-tinually." Rasta doesn't deal with death and cons. Rastas will also say "over-stand" rather than "under-stand." The language of Rastas is very significant. Rastas are very meticulous with their words so as to always focus on the positive and always be forward moving in their thought and speech.

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You do realize though that those examples are not precision in language but rather ignorance?



Language is always in a state of flux. It is always changing, evolving, devolving......etc. And so it doesn't really matter. There are alot of different sub-cultures in America with their own slang or way of speaking.

Until America and Great Britain decide to come together and make English uniform, then I don't think anyone has a right to judge in regards to precision vs ignorance. You might be able to say that in regards to standard American English, but America and Great Britain need to come together or form some sort of English regulation board. That way, they will be able to control and stabilize the English language for future generations.
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I just wanted to say greetings. I find this site very helpful although I may not overstand all of the topics, I am interested to learn more about Orthodox Christianity and specifically the EOTC. I am going to visit an Arabic Orthodox Church soon. It is very close to my home and I know some of the congregants, but the church is not finished being built, so I do not know when it will be ready, hopefully soon. If I respond to any thread here please know that I am new and don't have any experience with Orthodox Christianity except what I may learn here for now. I will let you all know when I have attended the Church. Respect to All
Sis Kaya IsesaJah


I see you used the word "Overstand". Man, I haven't heard that term in years. Back in college I use to bump heads with the followers of Dr. Malachi Z York, and they used that term all the time.

I think the 5%ers might use the term as well. I never knew Rastafarians used it.


But welcome to the forum!



I assumed it to be a language issue and nothing to do with 5%ers. I would like to know as well if this is used by Rastafarians.

Never much trouble with the typical bean pie and bow-tie crowd, but the 5%ers weren't to be bumped heads with.


Yes I! "Overstand" has always been part of Rasta word-sound. Rastas place great emphasis on the power of words, and thus Rasta speech is always focused on the postive. For example, a Rastaman never says "dedicate," instead it is "livicate." It is never "con-tinually" but instead "I-tinually." Rasta doesn't deal with death and cons. Rastas will also say "over-stand" rather than "under-stand." The language of Rastas is very significant. Rastas are very meticulous with their words so as to always focus on the positive and always be forward moving in their thought and speech.

Selam


You do realize though that those examples are not precision in language but rather ignorance?



Language is always in a state of flux. It is always changing, evolving, devolving......etc. And so it doesn't really matter. There are alot of different sub-cultures in America with their own slang or way of speaking.

Until America and Great Britain decide to come together and make English uniform, then I don't think anyone has a right to judge in regards to precision vs ignorance.

I agree with you in spirit, but the examples in the post are inarguably marginal neologisms by self proclaimed conscious (or is that iscious) users of language.

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Looks like more wood for the Irony thread fire!
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« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2011, 09:51:21 PM »


I just wanted to say greetings. I find this site very helpful although I may not overstand all of the topics, I am interested to learn more about Orthodox Christianity and specifically the EOTC. I am going to visit an Arabic Orthodox Church soon. It is very close to my home and I know some of the congregants, but the church is not finished being built, so I do not know when it will be ready, hopefully soon. If I respond to any thread here please know that I am new and don't have any experience with Orthodox Christianity except what I may learn here for now. I will let you all know when I have attended the Church. Respect to All
Sis Kaya IsesaJah


I see you used the word "Overstand". Man, I haven't heard that term in years. Back in college I use to bump heads with the followers of Dr. Malachi Z York, and they used that term all the time.

I think the 5%ers might use the term as well. I never knew Rastafarians used it.


But welcome to the forum!



I assumed it to be a language issue and nothing to do with 5%ers. I would like to know as well if this is used by Rastafarians.

Never much trouble with the typical bean pie and bow-tie crowd, but the 5%ers weren't to be bumped heads with.


Yes I! "Overstand" has always been part of Rasta word-sound. Rastas place great emphasis on the power of words, and thus Rasta speech is always focused on the postive. For example, a Rastaman never says "dedicate," instead it is "livicate." It is never "con-tinually" but instead "I-tinually." Rasta doesn't deal with death and cons. Rastas will also say "over-stand" rather than "under-stand." The language of Rastas is very significant. Rastas are very meticulous with their words so as to always focus on the positive and always be forward moving in their thought and speech.

Selam


You do realize though that those examples are not precision in language but rather ignorance?



Language is always in a state of flux. It is always changing, evolving, devolving......etc. And so it doesn't really matter. There are alot of different sub-cultures in America with their own slang or way of speaking.

Until America and Great Britain decide to come together and make English uniform, then I don't think anyone has a right to judge in regards to precision vs ignorance.

I agree with you in spirit, but the examples in the post are inarguably marginal neologisms by self proclaimed conscious (or is that iscious) users of language.

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I don't know. But I think you are trying to make fun of their language and how they talk. That's not something I am willing to do. One must have a certain level of respect for other groups.........even if you do disagree with them.


Kaya IsesaJah,


Please forgive orthonorm for being disrespectful. Everyone on this board isn't that way, and please forgive me if I said anything that was distasteful as well.
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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2011, 09:58:51 PM »

Orthonorm,

If you don't like someone's way of speaking, that is your privilege.  I'm going to ask, however, that you refrain from being insulting.  I would hate to think you were trying to troll the OO board.

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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2011, 11:44:54 PM »

Greetings again....well, thank you all for the welcome (even yours Orthonorm)  Cheesy..I am glad to see so many on the board! I am sure that I will learn here!!
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« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2011, 12:17:56 AM »

So do I get to say I am sorry with a I didn't mean to offend or is that addressing moderating comments?

I'll take the chance:

I am sorry if you found offense. I did not mean to be insulting. My snarky streak runs deep and I tend to argue in general and not toward the individual.

My apologies to all.

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« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2011, 12:26:31 AM »

So do I get to say I am sorry with a I didn't mean to offend or is that addressing moderating comments?

I'll take the chance:

I am sorry if you found offense. I did not mean to be insulting. My snarky streak runs deep and I tend to argue in general and not toward the individual.

My apologies to all.


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« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2011, 12:41:13 AM »

So do I get to say I am sorry with a I didn't mean to offend or is that addressing moderating comments?

I'll take the chance:

I am sorry if you found offense. I did not mean to be insulting. My snarky streak runs deep and I tend to argue in general and not toward the individual.

My apologies to all.


We are all sinners, but the road of repentance begins with acknowledging our wrongs and apologizing to those whom we may have offended. I respect you for being big enough to offer your sincere apology.

Selam

I know you are one of the more generous folks here (IME) and I truly didn't mean to "mock" you. I do have the streak for better and more often worse of not taking or meaning sarcastic comments personally.

In hindsight, it was just frivolous foolishness.
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« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2011, 12:51:48 AM »

That's very nice, Orthonorm.   Smiley   Thank you.
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« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2011, 01:40:47 AM »

 Wink Thanks to Orthonorm- apology is accepted, but please don't worry about it, lol, you should see what others on the Rastafarian forums have done to me Shocked!!! Thank you ALL again...I am looking throughout the forum just to get a feel for it and perhaps get a little informed before I actually get to go to the Orthodox Church near to me. Just by browsing around, I see I have a lot to learn!!
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« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2011, 04:08:33 AM »

I just wanted to say greetings also .
I am interested to learn more about Oriental Orthodox Christianity and Histroy of Orthodox people in North Africa.

I am from Republic of Srpska, Balcan, Europe
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« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2011, 07:25:09 AM »

Greetings Leo, I am sure someone here will be able to answer your question (obviously I can't because I am new on a lot of levels) but I wanted to welcome you!
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« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2011, 02:44:35 PM »

A belated welcome to the forum, Kaya IsesaJah!
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« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2011, 01:14:17 AM »

I just wanted to say greetings also .
I am interested to learn more about Oriental Orthodox Christianity and Histroy of Orthodox people in North Africa.

I am from Republic of Srpska, Balcan, Europe

Welcome, Leo.   Smiley
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« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2011, 09:44:32 AM »

A belated welcome to the forum, Kaya IsesaJah!

Thank You So Much CoptoGeek!
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« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2011, 12:43:04 PM »

I just wanted to say greetings also .
I am interested to learn more about Oriental Orthodox Christianity and Histroy of Orthodox people in North Africa.

I am from Republic of Srpska, Balcan, Europe

Welcome Leo...

I will say though, not all of North Africa is/was OO in history.  There is a Theodorean (Mopsuestian) and Latin history of North Africa as well.
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« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2011, 02:09:07 PM »

Welcome sis Ises, happy to see your presence here. Also welcome to you Leo.
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« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2011, 01:33:47 AM »

Give Thanks for the Welcome...reading, reading, and more reading..."NUFF love and More RASpect" Arnaud!!
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« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2011, 02:40:00 AM »

Thanks Brothers and sisters, if you could send me some links about history of Christians in North Africa,
Middle East and Asia .. I would be very grateful ..
English and Russian ...

I have site http://orthodoxbrotherhood.com/  and would like to post information on it and translate it to Serbian .. to familiarize the Serbs about... history of Christians in North Africa, Middle East and Asia

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