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« on: January 22, 2011, 03:30:17 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2011, 05:05:33 PM »
The main assumption Mr. Ally seems to make is that revelation can only be considered true if it is "logical". ISTM he is elevating human reason above God.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2011, 05:12:40 PM »
Answering-islam has a section dedicated to the rebuttal of Shabir Ally's arguments.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Shabir-Ally/index.html
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011, 12:31:15 AM »
What I can never get is how Islam can recognize that Jesus was born of a virgin, but cannot possibly be the Son of God. 

I just don't get that. 

If she were cloned, Jesus would be . . . St. Mary. . . certainly not male.  So . . . just who was His Dad then, if not the Creator Himself?

Yet, every single document / dvd they have put out in debate or teaching leads to 'scientific proof' - but all the "proof" I've looked at is weak at best.  The Koran itself, when weighed against itself changes it's mind back and forth and back and forth constantly.  It's written in a very reactionary stance. . . as Mohammed went through all of the challenges in life that he went through here and there, you can mark the changes in his thinking directly to his history when compared to the text of the Koran. 

So. . .

Sigh.  The blind leading the blind.  It's so sad. Lord have mercy!
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2011, 12:33:12 AM »
Quote from: Theophilos78 on January 22, 2011, 05:12:40 PM
Answering-islam has a section dedicated to the rebuttal of Shabir Ally's arguments.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Shabir-Ally/index.html

the site is evidently dysfunctional
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2011, 03:30:07 AM »
Quote from: quietmorning on January 24, 2011, 12:33:12 AM
Quote from: Theophilos78 on January 22, 2011, 05:12:40 PM
Answering-islam has a section dedicated to the rebuttal of Shabir Ally's arguments.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Shabir-Ally/index.html

the site is evidently dysfunctional

I can access and read the articles.  Huh
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2011, 09:15:01 AM »
I have a wonderful rebuttal of the main islamic points, unfortunately I am not allowed to post "Nestorian material" otherwise I would link to it so that you could distribute it to the muslims and make them Christian. It certainly convinced their biggest Caliph and he gave a firman (document with his knife as proof) to protect all Assyrian Christian so impressed he was with how his islamic points were refuted.
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2011, 09:15:59 AM »
Quote from: Rafa999 on January 24, 2011, 09:15:01 AM
I have a wonderful rebuttal of the main islamic points, unfortunately I am not allowed to post "Nestorian material" otherwise I would link to it so that you could distribute it to the muslims and make them Christian. It certainly convinced their biggest Caliph and he gave a firman (document with his knife as proof) to protect all Assyrian Christian so impressed he was with how his islamic points were refuted.

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