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Offline Hamartolos

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Celibate parish priests
« on: January 16, 2011, 03:50:26 PM »
I know that within the Antiochian jurisdiction, being a celibate priest does not mean one is necessarily associated with a monastery.  Is this true throughout all of Orthodoxy?  If someone is ordained and is not married, will they be assigned a parish or are parishes reserved for married clergy only? 

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Re: Celibate parish priests
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2011, 04:51:13 PM »
I know that within the Antiochian jurisdiction, being a celibate priest does not mean one is necessarily associated with a monastery.  Is this true throughout all of Orthodoxy?  If someone is ordained and is not married, will they be assigned a parish or are parishes reserved for married clergy only? 

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Usually only the married, but because of the missionary sort of the aspect of the so called Diaspora make it more common-monastics often being on the front lines of expanding the Church, as they have less entangles to get in the way on the frontier.
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Re: Celibate parish priests
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2011, 05:28:35 PM »
While it is uncommon for there to be a celibate priest from my experiences, most are widowers or men whose wives may have left them during the marriage. I don't think that it is fair to state that they are necessarily monastics. Most Bishops don't 'like' to ordain non-monastics as celibate priests from what I understand, but there are exceptions. And, for the record, I find comments which imply that somehow a monastic is a superior type of priest to a married man with a family to be ignorant and offensive. Most of the work that went into the establishment of Orthodox parishes in this country was done by married clergy not monastics. There is a place for all in the Church.
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Re: Celibate parish priests
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2011, 06:23:51 PM »
I am not sure that its a good idea to have monastics at a parish...we used to get Hieromonks at our parish to fill in when I was a little boy. I remember my grandmother asking me in Father "bumped" against me when I was an altar boy and I has no idea what she was talking about...I asked my older more worldly cousin what she was talking about and after he told me I was scared to death...this priest was later,I think it was about 1965 deposed for an issue which was never disclosed...monastics know nothing about family life and would,I think and this is just my opinion be a bad fit at a parish..

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Re: Celibate parish priests
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2011, 11:57:51 AM »
I think to equate a celibate priest with pedophilia is absurd.  Though this may have been the case with that particular priest, most pedophiles are married. 

I do understand that having a celibate priest at a parish to console married couples doesn't make sense.  I guess it's my Catholic background, that I haven't been able to completely shake off yet, that makes me think a celibate priest isn't so odd. 

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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2011, 12:25:06 PM »
I think to equate a celibate priest with pedophilia is absurd.  Though this may have been the case with that particular priest, most pedophiles are married. 

I do understand that having a celibate priest at a parish to console married couples doesn't make sense.  I guess it's my Catholic background, that I haven't been able to completely shake off yet, that makes me think a celibate priest isn't so odd. 

I want to make it perfectly clear that I did not intend to make such a connection nor would I ever do so. To do so would be patently unfair and hurtful. Those who follow the Board know well my ramblings on the tragedy of priestly sexual failures and never have I made any such assertion. All of the celibate priests that I have had the privilege to be acquainted with during my life have been good and upstanding men - be they Orthodox or Catholic, Eastern or Western. Just wanted to make that clear.

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Re: Celibate parish priests
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2011, 02:40:07 PM »
monastics know nothing about family life and would,I think and this is just my opinion be a bad fit at a parish..

I appreciate you said it's just your opinion but... may I add mine? Monastics do not hatch from eggs abandoned by aliens. Monastics are sons, brothers, uncles and perhaps even widowers so of course they know about family life, there's more to family than just being married. I go to a church with three monastic clergy yet that church is flourishing with young families, marrieds-without-kids, older couples, teenagers, singles, celibates, monastic aspirants - you name it, every type of Christian "lifestyle" is there and doing well. I think a lot more depends on the character of the priest (and his wife if he has one) than on whether he is married, celibate or monastic.

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Re: Celibate parish priests
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2011, 03:21:31 AM »
I think to equate a celibate priest with pedophilia is absurd.  Though this may have been the case with that particular priest, most pedophiles are married. 

I do understand that having a celibate priest at a parish to console married couples doesn't make sense.  I guess it's my Catholic background, that I haven't been able to completely shake off yet, that makes me think a celibate priest isn't so odd. 
I'd like to second this. If a celibate priest who were sexually normal were to get into sexual sin, I'd expect it to be masturbation, pornography, or inappropriate relations with an adult woman.
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Re: Celibate parish priests
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2011, 11:46:53 AM »
monastics know nothing about family life and would,I think and this is just my opinion be a bad fit at a parish..

I appreciate you said it's just your opinion but... may I add mine? Monastics do not hatch from eggs abandoned by aliens. Monastics are sons, brothers, uncles and perhaps even widowers so of course they know about family life, there's more to family than just being married. I go to a church with three monastic clergy yet that church is flourishing with young families, marrieds-without-kids, older couples, teenagers, singles, celibates, monastic aspirants - you name it, every type of Christian "lifestyle" is there and doing well. I think a lot more depends on the character of the priest (and his wife if he has one) than on whether he is married, celibate or monastic.

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I would only add that it ALL depends on the character of the priest or Bishop, or for that matter - any of us.