Thank you! It needed to be said and you said it far better than I could have.
There was a time when I felt drawn to Eastern Orthodoxy but threads like this (and a number of others) make me wonder why I was once so enamored.
I do still believe Eastern Orthodoxy is a beautiful thing, but the types of "arguments" being used on this thread only serve to bring out the ugly. It really upsets me.
What happened to the reasoned, loving, intelligent debates?
Just to break in for a moment-- how long is this going to go on? Do you have any other shtick?
We get it. You don't accept the claims to legitimacy of the present conception of the RCC papacy. I don't think you need a lot more pages to show that. Even in high school on the debate team, they didn't let you repeat your point over and over.
Do you think doing things like putting pictures of the Pope next to Hitler and calling them "German shepherds of one type or another" is really going to help you convince people of your ideas, or drive them away?
Is that sort of thing allowed on this board? The Hitler picture thing? At the very least, in terms of Internet debate, you just "Godwinned" the argument, i.e., made it so overdone that you lost. (And not to mention very insulting to someone whose Catholic grandfather's brothers fought in Normandy. But I'm sure you'll say that is 'beside the point.' )
To someone who grew up Catholic, this just looks like a waste of time, because you're not going to un-convince the Catholics of issues they themselves think were settled hundreds of years ago.
What is the purpose of this thread? It isn't going to clear up anything, it only repeats claims the Catholics do not accept from the Orthodox, and vice versa; and it surely hasn't increased anybody's good will. Is this really in the Christian spirit?
I guess if you accept the idea that the Catholics don't have a Pope because there were times when there were false claimants to the rank, and the actual office holder had to live in a different city for a while, you may believe the United States has no current capital-- because it was at Philadelphia for some years, and now it's D.C., so D.C. can't possibly be the "real" capital. I guess nothing has changed since then...
Do you think you'll eventually make a rule that Catholics either shouldn't join this board, or should have to get used to deliberately being 'called out'? Adult Catholics are usually familiar with the Orthodox counters to their points of view. There is no need to rub their faces in them.
It's really a good thing that the people in my parish, the priest and the people in the congregation, are well-disposed toward me and treat me in a friendly way. Lately, I get the impression that if all I knew were this board, I wouldn't try to have any church home at all.