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Offline LakaYaRabb

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New ROCOR Western-Rite Churches
« on: December 30, 2010, 12:01:54 AM »
I am trying to actually visit some a few of the new ROCOR Western-Rite Churches. However, I have had several problems actually making contact.

First off, is Hermitage of the Theotokos Icon Assuage My Sorrows at P.O. Box 301 Odessa, TX  9760-0301 even a functioning place? There is no contact info for the Clergy:  The Rev. Andrew F. McElvaney. I am driving past this place very soon and was really hoping to visit.

Second, I called Saint Michael and All Angels Orthodox Church at 15014 Beavers Run in San Antonio, TX 78217-1136 at the number listed, (210) 590-3533. A guy answered and said that it was a residence. There isn't a church at this number and google maps reveals that this address is in the middle of a residential complex area. It doesn't appear to ever have been a church. There website doesn't (and hasn't) worked for me.

Third, I called Saint Ambrose of Milan Orthodox Church in Putnam Valley, NY at the number listed, (914) 262-3019. No direct answer, just a voicemail.

Why is the info incorrect? Why can't I get ahold of anybody? Does anyone have any info on the hermitage in odessa or the Church in San Antonio? 

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Re: New ROCOR Western-Rite Churches
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2010, 10:22:42 PM »
Happy MMXI !

Dear LakaYaRabb,

Fr Anthony (ex Archbishop Anthony Bondi) was appointed by Metropolitan Hilarion to be his vicar for this group of convert clergy.  I have let him know of your enquiry and he has been trying to make contactwith you.

But he says that you are uncontactable!

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Re: New ROCOR Western-Rite Churches
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2010, 10:28:53 PM »
Happy  MMXI !

Please post this for me…as I am not a member of the group.

Dear brother in Christ,

You recently posted this below…let me interpolate my responses…


I am trying to actually visit some a few of the new ROCOR Western-Rite Churches. However, I have had several problems actually making contact.

First off, is Hermitage of the Theotokos Icon Assuage My Sorrows at P.O. Box 301 Odessa, TX  9760-0301 even a functioning place? There is no contact info for the Clergy:  The Rev. Andrew F. McElvaney. I am driving past this place very soon and was really hoping to visit.

Father Andrew is  a hermit.

Second, I called Saint Michael and All Angels Orthodox Church at 15014 Beavers Run in San Antonio, TX 78217-1136 at the number listed, (210) 590-3533. A guy answered and said that it was a residence. There isn't a church at this number and google maps reveals that this address is in the middle of a residential complex area. It doesn't appear to ever have been a church. There website doesn't (and hasn't) worked for me.

That was the home number….Here is Archimandrite Michael’s cell phone/church number: (210) 861-3393

Third, I called Saint Ambrose of Milan Orthodox Church in Putnam Valley, NY at the number listed, (914) 262-3019. No direct answer, just a voicemail.

That is my cell phone number…which is always with me..you obviously didn’t leave a message because I am very diligent about returning my calls.

Why is the info incorrect? Why can't I get ahold of anybody? Does anyone have any info on the hermitage in odessa or the Church in San Antonio? 

If you give me your name and number I will be very happy to contact you.

 Please understand that we all work for a living.


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Re: New ROCOR Western-Rite Churches
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2011, 06:45:35 AM »
Father Andrew is  a hermit.

It's good to see strenghtening of ROCOR's WR monasticism. Many years to Fr. Andrew and may he attain the Kingdom of Heaven he's seeking!

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That was the home number….Here is Archimandrite Michael’s cell phone/church number: (210) 861-3393

Sorry for stucking on minor detail, but isn't "Archmandrite" a Byzantine title?
« Last Edit: January 01, 2011, 06:45:54 AM by Alpo »
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Re: New ROCOR Western-Rite Churches
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2011, 06:51:21 AM »
That was the home number….Here is Archimandrite Michael’s cell phone/church number: (210) 861-3393

Sorry for stucking on minor detail, but isn't "Archmandrite" a Byzantine title?

I was wondering earlier about WRITE monks who are styled as "hieromonks" - is that an apppropriate Latin Usage?

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Re: New ROCOR Western-Rite Churches
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2011, 07:02:36 AM »
That was the home number….Here is Archimandrite Michael’s cell phone/church number: (210) 861-3393

Sorry for stucking on minor detail, but isn't "Archmandrite" a Byzantine title?

I was wondering earlier about WRITE monks who are styled as "hieromonks" - is that an apppropriate Latin Usage?

I have no idea. Present RCC usage is probably not the same as pre-Schism Orthodox usage but maybe some of our Latin Catholics in here could tell how's their monastic clergy is entitled.

Or maybe I should try to address some real problems and try not to attain encyclopedic knowledge of all WR things. Like carelessness in prayer or something. :P
« Last Edit: January 01, 2011, 07:04:54 AM by Alpo »
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Re: New ROCOR Western-Rite Churches
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2011, 12:36:11 PM »
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Dear brother in Christ,
Father Andrew is  a hermit.
That was the home number….Here is Archimandrite Michael’s cell phone/church number: (210) 861-3393
That is my cell phone number…which is always with me..you obviously didn’t leave a message because I am very diligent about returning my calls.
If you give me your name and number I will be very happy to contact you.
Please understand that we all work for a living.

Father Ambrose,

Thank you for relaying the messages of Father Anthony. I am very grateful to have a response. I realize that things are very busy for the new Western Ritr Churches, but am glad to have the confusion I had cleared up! I am excited to visit some of these Churches.

I also sent you a message with my contact info.

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Re: New ROCOR Western-Rite Churches
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2011, 05:47:53 PM »
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Dear brother in Christ,
Father Andrew is  a hermit.
That was the home number….Here is Archimandrite Michael’s cell phone/church number: (210) 861-3393
That is my cell phone number…which is always with me..you obviously didn’t leave a message because I am very diligent about returning my calls.
If you give me your name and number I will be very happy to contact you.
Please understand that we all work for a living.

Father Ambrose,

Thank you for relaying the messages of Father Anthony. I am very grateful to have a response. I realize that things are very busy for the new Western Ritr Churches, but am glad to have the confusion I had cleared up! I am excited to visit some of these Churches.

I also sent you a message with my contact info.

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Re: New ROCOR Western-Rite Churches
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2011, 03:11:56 AM »
That was the home number….Here is Archimandrite Michael’s cell phone/church number: (210) 861-3393

Sorry for stucking on minor detail, but isn't "Archmandrite" a Byzantine title?

I was wondering earlier about WRITE monks who are styled as "hieromonks" - is that an apppropriate Latin Usage?
If my memory serves me correct in another WR discussion a member who I imagine was in the Paruchia said that it was not eastern but Celtic.  I will try and find the reference.
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Re: New ROCOR Western-Rite Churches
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2011, 03:31:37 AM »
That was the home number….Here is Archimandrite Michael’s cell phone/church number: (210) 861-3393

Sorry for stucking on minor detail, but isn't "Archmandrite" a Byzantine title?

I was wondering earlier about WRITE monks who are styled as "hieromonks" - is that an apppropriate Latin Usage?
If my memory serves me correct in another WR discussion a member who I imagine was in the Paruchia said that it was not eastern but Celtic.  I will try and find the reference.

I've looked through Uinseann O Maidin's "The Celtic Monk: Rules & Writings of Early Irish Monks."  Could not find anything.