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« on: December 27, 2010, 05:18:14 PM »
Can you decipher and translate what is written on the top and on the bottom?
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2010, 06:37:54 PM »
Normally this kind of thing is color coded, do you have the color version?
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2010, 06:39:12 PM »
No.
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2010, 06:40:53 PM »
Do you have the answer? Id hate to spin my wheels if you do lol
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2010, 06:41:40 PM »
I don't have it.
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2010, 06:42:21 PM »
Well then I would be happy to look into it for you, give me a few days.
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2011, 01:02:51 AM »
This is the letterhead of His All Holiness the Oecumenical Patriarch, and I recognise his signature in the margin (I have received letters from him myself).
The beginning of the top Caligraphy is his name, you can make out the letters: "+ Β α ρ θ ο λ ο μ α ι ο ς " ("+Bartholomaios").

     α  o λ α ι ο
+ Β ρ    ο
     θ    μ

The base of the Cross is the base of the Β
The α is at the top of the Β
The tail of the α joins the curve of the ρ
The tail of the ρ joins the θ below it .....etc

I've never been able to work out the rest of it, but it contains the word "Κωνσταντινουπόλεως" ("Of Constantinople") so I assume its his full title:

+ Βαρθολομαίος Αρχιεπίσκοπος Κωνσταντινουπόλεως, Νέας Ρώμης και Οικουμενικός Πατριάρχης
That is:
+ Bartholomew, Archbishop of Constantinople, New Rome and Oecumenical Patriarch
   
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2011, 08:40:35 AM »
Wow, you are great!
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2011, 02:57:09 PM »
Quote from: ozgeorge on January 14, 2011, 01:02:51 AM
I've never been able to work out the rest of it, but it contains the word "Κωνσταντινουπόλεως" ("Of Constantinople") so I assume its his full title:

+ Βαρθολομαίος Αρχιεπίσκοπος Κωνσταντινουπόλεως, Νέας Ρώμης και Οικουμενικός Πατριάρχης
That is:
+ Bartholomew, Archbishop of Constantinople, New Rome and Oecumenical Patriarch
+ Βαρθολομαίος ελέω Θεού Αρχιεπίσκοπος Κωνσταντινουπόλεως, Νέας Ρώμης και Οικουμενικός Πατριάρχης
+ Bartholomew by the mercy of God Archbishop of Constantinople, New Rome and Oecumenical Patriarch
Sometimes "διάπυρος προς Θεόν ευχέτης" is added: fervent supplicant before God
This style of signature was very common in the Byzantine culture known as "συμπίλημα" (sympilema, cypher)
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