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Greek LXX & English side by side book recommendations
« on: December 18, 2010, 09:06:41 AM »
Hi,

newbie here, so plz take it easy on me.... :)

I am looking for a book that has the LXX in greek and an english translation in a side by side format. I've found

The Septuagint with Apocrypha: Greek and English
http://www.amazon.com/Septuagint-Apocrypha-Greek-English/dp/0913573442/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_a

and was curious what you guys would recommend. Is there anything better out there?

Also, would anyone know of a online (pdf preferrably) version of this or similar book?

Thanks.

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Re: Greek LXX & English side by side book recommendations
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2010, 11:12:09 AM »
Hi,

newbie here, so plz take it easy on me.... :)

I am looking for a book that has the LXX in greek and an english translation in a side by side format. I've found

The Septuagint with Apocrypha: Greek and English
http://www.amazon.com/Septuagint-Apocrypha-Greek-English/dp/0913573442/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_a

and was curious what you guys would recommend. Is there anything better out there?

Also, would anyone know of a online (pdf preferrably) version of this or similar book?

Thanks.

vorgos
Elpenor's Bilingual (Greek / English) Old Testament
http://www.ellopos.net/elpenor/greek-texts/septuagint/default.asp
has the CoG text next to Brenton's translation.

The Septuagint Online has other resources;
http://www.kalvesmaki.com/lxx/
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Re: Greek LXX & English side by side book recommendations
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2010, 12:44:33 PM »
Hi,

newbie here, so plz take it easy on me.... :)

I am looking for a book that has the LXX in greek and an english translation in a side by side format. I've found

The Septuagint with Apocrypha: Greek and English
http://www.amazon.com/Septuagint-Apocrypha-Greek-English/dp/0913573442/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_a

and was curious what you guys would recommend. Is there anything better out there?

Also, would anyone know of a online (pdf preferrably) version of this or similar book?

Thanks.

vorgos

This is an online version using Breton's LXX vs Masoretic
http://ecmarsh.com/lxx-kjv/

And this one will lead you to a program that does the same thing (opens files in PDF and includes the PDF to look at if you don't want to use the program)... free BTW, about fourth one down.
http://ecmarsh.com/download/
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Re: Greek LXX & English side by side book recommendations
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2010, 01:43:03 PM »
Here is a review of the various Septuagints: http://nstanosheck.blogspot.com/2010/11/text-of-orthodox-bible.html
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Re: Greek LXX & English side by side book recommendations
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2010, 06:12:00 PM »
Hi,

newbie here, so plz take it easy on me.... :)

I am looking for a book that has the LXX in greek and an english translation in a side by side format. I've found

The Septuagint with Apocrypha: Greek and English
http://www.amazon.com/Septuagint-Apocrypha-Greek-English/dp/0913573442/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_a

and was curious what you guys would recommend. Is there anything better out there?

Also, would anyone know of a online (pdf preferrably) version of this or similar book?

Thanks.

vorgos
Elpenor's Bilingual (Greek / English) Old Testament
http://www.ellopos.net/elpenor/greek-texts/septuagint/default.asp
has the CoG text next to Brenton's translation.

The Septuagint Online has other resources;
http://www.kalvesmaki.com/lxx/

Wow the LXX is very different from the Oxford RSV I have, I really enjoy reading the Septuagint alot more.
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Re: Greek LXX & English side by side book recommendations
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2010, 10:43:27 PM »
Thanks guys. I'll check them out.

Merry Christmas to all.

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Re: Greek LXX & English side by side book recommendations
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2010, 10:57:42 PM »
Here is a review of the various Septuagints: http://nstanosheck.blogspot.com/2010/11/text-of-orthodox-bible.html

Thank you for your review, I'll be picking up Holy Apostles Convent and Dormition Skete, The Orthodox New Testament, 1st ed and the Holy Orthodox Bible from Peter Papoutsis.

Are you aware of the EOB? http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/eob-new-testament-(eastern-greek-orthodox-bible---6x9-paperback)/5004653

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Re: Greek LXX & English side by side book recommendations
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2010, 11:28:55 PM »
The EOB is a project by a friend of mine.  I would recommend all that was previously stated plus this. 

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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2010, 11:50:50 PM »
The EOB is a project by a friend of mine.  I would recommend all that was previously stated plus this. 

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Are you aware of how soon a complete OT translation will be made by the EOB team? I'm not sure how updated that list they have regarding what contributors are doing to each book.
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Re: Greek LXX & English side by side book recommendations
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2010, 11:14:42 AM »
Here is a review of the various Septuagints: http://nstanosheck.blogspot.com/2010/11/text-of-orthodox-bible.html

Thank you for your review, I'll be picking up Holy Apostles Convent and Dormition Skete, The Orthodox New Testament, 1st ed and the Holy Orthodox Bible from Peter Papoutsis.

Are you aware of the EOB? http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/eob-new-testament-(eastern-greek-orthodox-bible---6x9-paperback)/5004653

Love your blog by the way.

Thank you! I am not very familiar with it, but look forward to purchasing it when it is completed in full.
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Re: Greek LXX & English side by side book recommendations
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2011, 07:37:09 PM »
Here is a review of the various Septuagints: http://nstanosheck.blogspot.com/2010/11/text-of-orthodox-bible.html

Thank you for your review, I'll be picking up Holy Apostles Convent and Dormition Skete, The Orthodox New Testament, 1st ed and the Holy Orthodox Bible from Peter Papoutsis.

Are you aware of the EOB? http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/eob-new-testament-(eastern-greek-orthodox-bible---6x9-paperback)/5004653

Love your blog by the way.

Thank you! I am not very familiar with it, but look forward to purchasing it when it is completed in full.

I am wary of it now, since they are translating Epicopate as overseers in the E/GOB. :-(
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Re: Greek LXX & English side by side book recommendations
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2011, 07:39:31 PM »
Here is a review of the various Septuagints: http://nstanosheck.blogspot.com/2010/11/text-of-orthodox-bible.html

Thank you for your review, I'll be picking up Holy Apostles Convent and Dormition Skete, The Orthodox New Testament, 1st ed and the Holy Orthodox Bible from Peter Papoutsis.

Are you aware of the EOB? http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/eob-new-testament-(eastern-greek-orthodox-bible---6x9-paperback)/5004653

Love your blog by the way.

Thank you! I am not very familiar with it, but look forward to purchasing it when it is completed in full.

I am wary of it now, since they are translating Epicopate as overseers in the E/GOB. :-(
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I understand the reason for translating presbyteros as 'presbyter,' but there is no reason to use overseer.  It's misleading in the extreme.
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Re: Greek LXX & English side by side book recommendations
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2011, 07:46:04 PM »
Here is a review of the various Septuagints: http://nstanosheck.blogspot.com/2010/11/text-of-orthodox-bible.html

Thank you for your review, I'll be picking up Holy Apostles Convent and Dormition Skete, The Orthodox New Testament, 1st ed and the Holy Orthodox Bible from Peter Papoutsis.

Are you aware of the EOB? http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/eob-new-testament-(eastern-greek-orthodox-bible---6x9-paperback)/5004653

Love your blog by the way.

Thank you! I am not very familiar with it, but look forward to purchasing it when it is completed in full.

I am wary of it now, since they are translating Epicopate as overseers in the E/GOB. :-(
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I understand the reason for translating presbyteros as 'presbyter,' but there is no reason to use overseer.  It's misleading in the extreme.

The argument Fr. Laurent makes is that episkopos and presbyteros were interchangeable then. Doesn't seem like a good explanation to me though. Weren't the NT "overseers" much more like modern bishops than presbyters?

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Re: Greek LXX & English side by side book recommendations
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2011, 07:50:08 PM »
Here is a review of the various Septuagints: http://nstanosheck.blogspot.com/2010/11/text-of-orthodox-bible.html

Thank you for your review, I'll be picking up Holy Apostles Convent and Dormition Skete, The Orthodox New Testament, 1st ed and the Holy Orthodox Bible from Peter Papoutsis.

Are you aware of the EOB? http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/eob-new-testament-(eastern-greek-orthodox-bible---6x9-paperback)/5004653

Love your blog by the way.

Thank you! I am not very familiar with it, but look forward to purchasing it when it is completed in full.

I am wary of it now, since they are translating Epicopate as overseers in the E/GOB. :-(
WT*!

I understand the reason for translating presbyteros as 'presbyter,' but there is no reason to use overseer.  It's misleading in the extreme.

The argument Fr. Laurent makes is that episkopos and presbyteros were interchangeable then. Doesn't seem like a good explanation to me though. Weren't the NT "overseers" much more like modern bishops than presbyters?
They were exactly like modern bishops, the episcopate being one.  The presbyters were Chorbishops.
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Re: Greek LXX & English side by side book recommendations
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2011, 07:54:42 PM »
I have it on good authority that Mr Papoutsis does not take kindly to criticism of his work.
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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2011, 07:56:55 PM »
I have it on good authority that Mr Papoutsis does not take kindly to criticism of his work.

The EOB is  Fr. Laurent Cleenewerck's project though I believe there are other collaborators.

But yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.

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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2011, 11:38:38 AM »
I have it on good authority that Mr Papoutsis does not take kindly to criticism of his work.

He definitely did not at first, but in his return to Monachos, he appears to have taken a much more humble approach, accepting criticism.
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« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2011, 08:22:19 PM »
Here is a review of the various Septuagints: http://nstanosheck.blogspot.com/2010/11/text-of-orthodox-bible.html

Thank you for your review, I'll be picking up Holy Apostles Convent and Dormition Skete, The Orthodox New Testament, 1st ed and the Holy Orthodox Bible from Peter Papoutsis.

Are you aware of the EOB? http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/eob-new-testament-(eastern-greek-orthodox-bible---6x9-paperback)/5004653

Love your blog by the way.

Thank you! I am not very familiar with it, but look forward to purchasing it when it is completed in full.

I am wary of it now, since they are translating Epicopate as overseers in the E/GOB. :-(

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