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Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« on: February 08, 2011, 02:22:20 AM »
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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2011, 02:53:30 AM »
I prove them false.
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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2011, 03:00:48 AM »
I give them my shirt as well.

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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2011, 03:11:25 AM »
I prove them false.

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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2011, 03:15:33 AM »
I prove them false.

You...changed....your...avatar...! :o
After the maintenance, the old one disappeared (why, I don't know). This was the first to pop up on a search, and in Arabic, so there it was.
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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2011, 03:20:50 AM »
I prove them false.

You...changed....your...avatar...! :o
After the maintenance, the old one disappeared (why, I don't know). This was the first to pop up on a search, and in Arabic, so there it was.

At least you and Theo-Philosopher no longer share the same one.

Confusing at first.
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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2011, 03:22:09 AM »
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Why are you asking this here on an Orthodox Christian discussion forum? Don't you have your own fora for asking such questions?
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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2011, 12:42:48 PM »
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Why are you asking this here on an Orthodox Christian discussion forum? Don't you have your own fora for asking such questions?
Stay on topic. ;)
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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2011, 12:43:44 PM »
Wyatt,
Ignore them. If they are mocking your faith, they are honestly not interested in what you have to say. You and I know where the true Church is, so why worry about what others think?
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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2011, 12:47:08 PM »
Wyatt,
Ignore them. If they are mocking your faith, they are honestly not interested in what you have to say. You and I know where the true Church is, so why worry about what others think?

This is some of the best advice and it applies not only to people mocking your faith, but also anything you like/do/appreciate in general. 

It's also one of the most difficult things to learn how to do, or at least to do consistently.
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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2011, 12:49:33 PM »
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Why are you asking this here on an Orthodox Christian discussion forum? Don't you have your own fora for asking such questions?
Stay on topic. ;)


I know you say that in jest (at least half heartedly! ;) ), but he has a point.  This is not the Catholic Discussion forum, but the Orthodox-Catholic Discussion forum on OrthodoxChristianity.net, the purpose of which is "Discussion of issues which unite and divide the Orthodox Church and the Roman/Eastern Catholic churches (in Communion with Rome)".  It is not a place where Roman/Eastern Catholics can commiserate on how the world treats them and such.  There are plenty of fora for that purpose and easy-to-use tools for people to create their own if they cannot find an online discussion forum that meets their needs.

As such, I ask all our Roman/Eastern Catholic posters to please remember the purpose of this particular forum and respect its mandate.
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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2011, 01:10:40 PM »
I prove them false.

You...changed....your...avatar...! :o
After the maintenance, the old one disappeared (why, I don't know). This was the first to pop up on a search, and in Arabic, so there it was.

At least you and Theo-Philosopher no longer share the same one.

Confusing at first.

Yes, a couple times I caught myself thinking "I don't remember writing that...." LOL.
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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2011, 01:17:40 PM »
I think of 2 Peter chapter 3:

1This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

 2That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

 3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

 4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

 5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

 7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

 8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.


 9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

 10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

 11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

 12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

 13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

 14Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

 15And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

 16As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

 17Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

 18But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2011, 01:57:39 PM »
I think Catholics – and indeed all people of faith – should regard mockery of their beliefs as part of the “rules of the game” as it were and not stress over it too much.  However, since the issues that draw mockery from outsiders are no secret it ought to be simple enough to be prepared to respond with gentleness and respect as the first pope enjoined believers to do (1 Peter 3:15, according the NIV).  Allow me to provide an example.

I know an Evangelical pastor who is into Community Theater.  Once, during a rehearsal, one of the other participants took the name of the Lord in vain in the manner familiar in our time.  Immediately after the name of the Lord was uttered the pastor exclaimed, “He’s my hero!”  Then came what is sometimes called the pregnant pause.

But I guess in most instances the right response would probably be silence.  And, if that option is chosen, in order to avoid stressing about it one might silently bring to mind an instruction Saint Paul gave in his letter to the Philippians: 

…whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable – if anything is excellent or praiseworthy – think about such things.

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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2011, 02:03:09 PM »
You are being 'mocked' but you contently and willingly come back here for more.

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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2011, 02:21:27 PM »
You are being 'mocked' but you contently and willingly come back here for more.

How do you interpret that behavior?

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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2011, 02:22:21 PM »
You are being 'mocked' but you contently and willingly come back here for more.

How do you interpret that behavior?

Sadomasochism.

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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2011, 02:40:58 PM »
You are being 'mocked' but you contently and willingly come back here for more.

How do you interpret that behavior?

Sadomasochism.

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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2011, 02:46:16 PM »
You are being 'mocked' but you contently and willingly come back here for more.

How do you interpret that behavior?

Sadomasochism.

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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2011, 03:13:32 PM »
There is a difference between valid criticism and mocking. Criticism deserves attention and perhaps a well reasoned response on your part, mocking really says more about the mocker than the mockee, and should be ignored. Consider it a cross to bear.

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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2011, 02:35:19 AM »
You are being 'mocked' but you contently and willingly come back here for more.

How do you interpret that behavior?

Sadomasochism.

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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2011, 01:35:58 AM »
You are being 'mocked' but you contently and willingly come back here for more.

James 3

 5Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!

 6And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

 7For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:

 8But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

 9Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.

 10Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.

 11Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?

 12Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2011, 02:59:21 PM »
The answer is simple.
We call the Inquisition on them, and they do the rest.

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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2011, 03:29:19 PM »
The answer is simple.
We call the Inquisition on them, and they do the rest.

Why not Inquisition your own mockers--those who tolerate clown masses and women skipping around the sanctuary in leotards?
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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2011, 03:39:48 PM »
The answer is simple.
We call the Inquisition on them, and they do the rest.

Why not Inquisition your own mockers--those who tolerate clown masses and women skipping around the sanctuary in leotards?
Yes, let's inquisition those extremely rare mockers.
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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2011, 03:44:00 PM »
You are being 'mocked' but you contently and willingly come back here for more.

How do you interpret that behavior?

Sadomasochism.

Perhaps self-flagellation is coming back into vogue, or maybe he's a member of Opus Dei.

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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2011, 03:45:04 PM »
You are being 'mocked' but you contently and willingly come back here for more.

How do you interpret that behavior?

Sadomasochism.

Perhaps self-flagellation is coming back into vogue, or maybe he's a member of Opus Dei.
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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2011, 04:06:30 PM »
You are being 'mocked' but you contently and willingly come back here for more.

How do you interpret that behavior?

Sadomasochism.

Perhaps self-flagellation is coming back into vogue, or maybe he's a member of Opus Dei.
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Re: Catholics, how do you deal with people who mock your faith?
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