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« on: December 10, 2010, 06:41:01 PM »

What is the exact process one must go through in order to serve at a monastery?
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2010, 07:23:32 PM »

What is the exact process one must go through in order to serve at a monastery?

Speaking as a monk, I can say that there is no exact process.  Monks and nuns come to the monastic life through an amazing variety of ways.

Firstly, since we live in an information age, start reading up on the monastic life, both theoretically and in the lives of monks and nuns.

Secondly, spend time at an monastery.  The process and the possible vocation will unfold and start to clarify with such a visit/s.

In my day and age we were always recommended to read Ignaty Brianchaninov's "The Arena."   It is good both for an enquirer, to get a grasp of monastic principles, and it remains a very good book to consult after you have become a monk.
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2010, 01:07:37 AM »

What is the exact process one must go through in order to serve at a monastery?

Speaking as a monk, I can say that there is no exact process.  Monks and nuns come to the monastic life through an amazing variety of ways.

Firstly, since we live in an information age, start reading up on the monastic life, both theoretically and in the lives of monks and nuns.

Secondly, spend time at an monastery.  The process and the possible vocation will unfold and start to clarify with such a visit/s.

In my day and age we were always recommended to read Ignaty Brianchaninov's "The Arena."   It is good both for an enquirer, to get a grasp of monastic principles, and it remains a very good book to consult after you have become a monk.

Should almost be required reading for any Christian.  "The Arena" is one of my favorite books.
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2010, 01:22:44 AM »

Each journey is unique; however, I've seen lots of advice suggesting that one be a member of the Orthodox church for at least 3 years before pursuing ministries that require greater spiritual rigor.
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2010, 12:07:18 AM »

What is the exact process one must go through in order to serve at a monastery?

A friend of mine who converted a day before me is now at a monastery in West Virginia.
http://www.holycross-hermitage.com/ (Hermitage of the Holy Cross monastery (ROCOR))

Our parish helped him, but I remember that one of the things the monastery wanted was for him to pay off his debts first.

I know a number of Nuns, but I never asked them how they became one. However, I did ask a monk how he became one as well as the process of being one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHkQbC2hl5s (Some thoughts by Fr. Monk Cosmas Shartz)


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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2010, 12:43:04 AM »

What is the exact process one must go through in order to serve at a monastery?

A friend of mine who converted a day before me is now at a monastery in West Virginia.
http://www.holycross-hermitage.com/ (Hermitage of the Holy Cross monastery (ROCOR))

Our parish helped him, but I remember that one of the things the monastery wanted was for him to pay off his debts first.

I know a number of Nuns, but I never asked them how they became one. However, I did ask a monk how he became one as well as the process of being one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHkQbC2hl5s (Some thoughts by Fr. Monk Cosmas Shartz)



Wow, really? I go there a lot (I'll be going again next week). Wonderful monks! Do you suppose you could tell me who it is? Every time I go there I think I have their names remembered, but it turns out there are more monks or novices. Smiley A great problem to have!

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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2010, 01:07:22 AM »

It's so different for each person.  I have two friends who are pursuing monasticism, on very different paths.  One is already at a monastery, the other still in the world. 

Listen to IH, he knows what he's talking about.
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2010, 02:24:47 AM »

What is the exact process one must go through in order to serve at a monastery?

A friend of mine who converted a day before me is now at a monastery in West Virginia.
http://www.holycross-hermitage.com/ (Hermitage of the Holy Cross monastery (ROCOR))

Our parish helped him, but I remember that one of the things the monastery wanted was for him to pay off his debts first.

I know a number of Nuns, but I never asked them how they became one. However, I did ask a monk how he became one as well as the process of being one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHkQbC2hl5s (Some thoughts by Fr. Monk Cosmas Shartz)



Wow, really? I go there a lot (I'll be going again next week). Wonderful monks! Do you suppose you could tell me who it is? Every time I go there I think I have their names remembered, but it turns out there are more monks or novices. Smiley A great problem to have!

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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2010, 06:31:14 PM »

What is the exact process one must go through in order to serve at a monastery?

A friend of mine who converted a day before me is now at a monastery in West Virginia.
http://www.holycross-hermitage.com/ (Hermitage of the Holy Cross monastery (ROCOR))

Our parish helped him, but I remember that one of the things the monastery wanted was for him to pay off his debts first.

I know a number of Nuns, but I never asked them how they became one. However, I did ask a monk how he became one as well as the process of being one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHkQbC2hl5s (Some thoughts by Fr. Monk Cosmas Shartz)



Wow, really? I go there a lot (I'll be going again next week). Wonderful monks! Do you suppose you could tell me who it is? Every time I go there I think I have their names remembered, but it turns out there are more monks or novices. Smiley A great problem to have!

In Christ,
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I always called him Troy(his government name), I forgot who his Patron Saint was.

I just spent last weekend at Holy Cross! Looks like we just missed each other, Shlomlokh!

I would love to know who your friend is that is staying there...they have so many novices, and more than want to come! It's such a beautiful and spiritually vibrant monastery!
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2010, 08:01:32 PM »

What is the exact process one must go through in order to serve at a monastery?

A friend of mine who converted a day before me is now at a monastery in West Virginia.
http://www.holycross-hermitage.com/ (Hermitage of the Holy Cross monastery (ROCOR))

Our parish helped him, but I remember that one of the things the monastery wanted was for him to pay off his debts first.

I know a number of Nuns, but I never asked them how they became one. However, I did ask a monk how he became one as well as the process of being one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHkQbC2hl5s (Some thoughts by Fr. Monk Cosmas Shartz)



Wow, really? I go there a lot (I'll be going again next week). Wonderful monks! Do you suppose you could tell me who it is? Every time I go there I think I have their names remembered, but it turns out there are more monks or novices. Smiley A great problem to have!

In Christ,
Andrew

I always called him Troy(his government name), I forgot who his Patron Saint was.

I just spent last weekend at Holy Cross! Looks like we just missed each other, Shlomlokh!

I would love to know who your friend is that is staying there...they have so many novices, and more than want to come! It's such a beautiful and spiritually vibrant monastery!

He's been there since January of last year. I was suppose to visit him on the 14th or 15h back in November but missed the trip. It's about a 5 hour drive from Pittsburgh. I'll ask Father what his Patron Saint name is on Wednesday. Lord Willing! He use to be on myspace and facebook, but I think he canceled his membership a while back. We both became Orthodox in April of 2007. He beat me to it by some hours! His was on Friday night (an all nighter), mine was that Saturday morning. We both were Episcopalians before we became Orthodox.
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2010, 08:05:46 PM »

jnorm do you live in the Pittsburgh area?
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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2010, 08:11:20 PM »

jnorm do you live in the Pittsburgh area?

Yup! When I tried to become Orthodox back in 1997/1998 I looked in the phone book and called a local parish, but I never got a response. The last time I counted, there were about 140 parishes in the Pittsburgh and greater Pittsburgh region. In 2006 I found an Orthodox Priest online and he directed me on who to contact in Pittsburgh.
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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2010, 08:12:05 PM »

There is quite a huge Orthodox presence in Pittsburgh is there not? I'm dying to move back personally, it's my favorite city.
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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2010, 08:22:50 PM »

Hey guys! Those of you that have been to the hermitage in Wayne WV, any of you live nearby?
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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2010, 08:29:30 PM »

There is quite a huge Orthodox presence in Pittsburgh is there not? I'm dying to move back personally, it's my favorite city.

Yes, there are alot here but you would never know it for they never let anyone know of their presence (well wait, it's different now, they are doing things to let the community know that they exist, but growing up I never ran into one or if I did they never told me). I was born and raised in the region and I never had an Orthodox Christian come to me to let me know that they were Orthodox. Most of them pretty much kept it to themselves. But that's how it is for alot of folk in the rust belt. Religion is pretty much private. I never met anyone in grade school, middle school or high school that told me they were Orthodox. I knew about Roman Catholics.....they are everywhere in Pittsburgh, but they are also more open in letting people know that they exist! I ran into alot of different protestant groups, muslims, hindu's Mormons, JW's and Jews, but I never had an Orthodox Christian tell me that they were Orthodox. I knew about their Church buildings, but I never ran into one, and if I did they never told me that they were Orthodox.

Until recently I've been trying to move out! I prefer the south-east.....I miss Alabama and Georgia. What is keeping me here are the goals and dreams of another friend. A sub-deacon who just came back from Allentown. He wants me to help with the Focus ministry that they are trying to do in Pittsburgh and he wants to start a Pittsburgh chapter of the brotherhood as well. I told him that I would have to look for a better job if I was gonna stay. Because I was on my way out!
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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2010, 09:21:18 PM »

Hey guys! Those of you that have been to the hermitage in Wayne WV, any of you live nearby?
Yep. I'm in southwest VA. I'll be going back there next week. Smiley

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« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2010, 11:09:42 PM »

Hey guys! Those of you that have been to the hermitage in Wayne WV, any of you live nearby?

I live in Central Kentucky, about 2 1/2 hours from Holy Cross. Many in our parish go regularly, some (including our parish priest) have their confessors there. One guy in our parish used to work there, as driver for Vladyka George! I think it's safe to say that we, as a parish, have a very healthy and active relationship with the monastery.
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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2010, 12:09:24 PM »

I thought the video that Holy Cross Hermitage released, "From the Little Mountain," was very enlightening. My dad, who is not Orthodox, also enjoyed it.
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« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2010, 12:15:56 PM »

It cool to know some of you live close to me. I live about 50 minutes from Wayne. Any of you live that close to the Hermitage. And by the way, to answer the OP's question, I spent some time at the Hermitage of the Holy Cross to see if I wanted to be a monastic. So for those that want to know what it's like, spend time at the monastery and FULLY participate in the liturgical cycle. Even if you don't become a monk, it's a wonderful   
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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2010, 02:01:24 PM »

What is the exact process one must go through in order to serve at a monastery?

A friend of mine who converted a day before me is now at a monastery in West Virginia.
http://www.holycross-hermitage.com/ (Hermitage of the Holy Cross monastery (ROCOR))

Our parish helped him, but I remember that one of the things the monastery wanted was for him to pay off his debts first.

I know a number of Nuns, but I never asked them how they became one. However, I did ask a monk how he became one as well as the process of being one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHkQbC2hl5s (Some thoughts by Fr. Monk Cosmas Shartz)



Wow, really? I go there a lot (I'll be going again next week). Wonderful monks! Do you suppose you could tell me who it is? Every time I go there I think I have their names remembered, but it turns out there are more monks or novices. Smiley A great problem to have!

In Christ,
Andrew

I always called him Troy(his government name), I forgot who his Patron Saint was.

I just spent last weekend at Holy Cross! Looks like we just missed each other, Shlomlokh!

I would love to know who your friend is that is staying there...they have so many novices, and more than want to come! It's such a beautiful and spiritually vibrant monastery!

He's been there since January of last year. I was suppose to visit him on the 14th or 15h back in November but missed the trip. It's about a 5 hour drive from Pittsburgh. I'll ask Father what his Patron Saint name is on Wednesday. Lord Willing! He use to be on myspace and facebook, but I think he canceled his membership a while back. We both became Orthodox in April of 2007. He beat me to it by some hours! His was on Friday night (an all nighter), mine was that Saturday morning. We both were Episcopalians before we became Orthodox.

I think I know who it is! Is it Br. Anthony? I worked with him making incense yesterday with Fr. Nectarius and some other visitors. Br. Anthony told me that there is currently at least 12 more men that are able to come live at hermitage and become monastics (and Abbot Seraphim wants them to come), but they don't have any room. Let's pray that they'll be able to grow their brotherhood!

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« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2010, 10:49:01 PM »

What is the exact process one must go through in order to serve at a monastery?

A friend of mine who converted a day before me is now at a monastery in West Virginia.
http://www.holycross-hermitage.com/ (Hermitage of the Holy Cross monastery (ROCOR))

Our parish helped him, but I remember that one of the things the monastery wanted was for him to pay off his debts first.

I know a number of Nuns, but I never asked them how they became one. However, I did ask a monk how he became one as well as the process of being one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHkQbC2hl5s (Some thoughts by Fr. Monk Cosmas Shartz)



Wow, really? I go there a lot (I'll be going again next week). Wonderful monks! Do you suppose you could tell me who it is? Every time I go there I think I have their names remembered, but it turns out there are more monks or novices. Smiley A great problem to have!

In Christ,
Andrew

I always called him Troy(his government name), I forgot who his Patron Saint was.

I just spent last weekend at Holy Cross! Looks like we just missed each other, Shlomlokh!

I would love to know who your friend is that is staying there...they have so many novices, and more than want to come! It's such a beautiful and spiritually vibrant monastery!

He's been there since January of last year. I was suppose to visit him on the 14th or 15h back in November but missed the trip. It's about a 5 hour drive from Pittsburgh. I'll ask Father what his Patron Saint name is on Wednesday. Lord Willing! He use to be on myspace and facebook, but I think he canceled his membership a while back. We both became Orthodox in April of 2007. He beat me to it by some hours! His was on Friday night (an all nighter), mine was that Saturday morning. We both were Episcopalians before we became Orthodox.

I think I know who it is! Is it Br. Anthony? I worked with him making incense yesterday with Fr. Nectarius and some other visitors. Br. Anthony told me that there is currently at least 12 more men that are able to come live at hermitage and become monastics (and Abbot Seraphim wants them to come), but they don't have any room. Let's pray that they'll be able to grow their brotherhood!

In Christ,
Andrew

Anthony Troy? Troy Anthony?....hmm, Yes, I believe that's him! He gave me most of his books back when he was in the St. Stephens House of studies program.
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« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2010, 05:33:44 PM »

The paths to monasticism are very different, but I think that in every case you gotta be determined and have a mind thats truly ready to leave this world. I thought about it, but I find that there's always something (not temptation) that is always calling me to stay, even as bad and disgusting as the world is.
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« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2010, 02:31:00 AM »

I also want to recommend "From the Little Mountain!"  It's a great film if you're not able to get away to a monastery very soon.
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« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2011, 06:13:36 PM »

Anthony Troy? Troy Anthony?....hmm, Yes, I believe that's him! He gave me most of his books back when he was in the St. Stephens House of studies program.

Br. Anthony took a hike with myself and a friend on our last visit. He told us about some of his time as an Episcopalian! He is a smart man, and seems to have a great heart as well! I hope I will get to spend more time getting to know him in my future trips to the monastery.

I also want to recommend "From the Little Mountain!"  It's a great film if you're not able to get away to a monastery very soon.

It's a wonderful video that is truly enlightening concerning the monastic way of life. I encourage every Orthodox Christian to see it, and to want to show it to everyone else!
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Anthony Troy? Troy Anthony?....hmm, Yes, I believe that's him! He gave me most of his books back when he was in the St. Stephens House of studies program.

Br. Anthony took a hike with myself and a friend on our last visit. He told us about some of his time as an Episcopalian! He is a smart man, and seems to have a great heart as well! I hope I will get to spend more time getting to know him in my future trips to the monastery.

I also want to recommend "From the Little Mountain!"  It's a great film if you're not able to get away to a monastery very soon.

It's a wonderful video that is truly enlightening concerning the monastic way of life. I encourage every Orthodox Christian to see it, and to want to show it to everyone else!

Next time you are there, give my greetings to Fr. Seraphim.  He is my Godfather.  Also, when I showed my Priest "From the Little Mountain", he was so impressed that he showed it during adult instruction as a view of Monasticism.  He said after the showing that there was really little else that needed said.

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