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i guess just because i am a nurse and also had 6 children that i would wonder about this....the Theotokos is ever Virgin...now does that mean she did not deliver Jesus vaginally?....if not, then how was Jesus born?...surely the birth experience is part of being fully human....i apologize if this is too delicate of a question for this venue....thank you for your patience with me...
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2010, 02:28:31 PM » |
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i guess just because i am a nurse and also had 6 children that i would wonder about this....the Theotokos is ever Virgin...now does that mean she did not deliver Jesus vaginally?....if not, then how was Jesus born?...surely the birth experience is part of being fully human....i apologize if this is too delicate of a question for this venue....thank you for your patience with me...
C-Section ? I am betting what is meant by Virgin is that she had remained chaste through her life... The anatomical details of giving birth are of no importance. |
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2010, 02:35:58 PM » |
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I agree completly with MARC1152. Don't get lost in the details.
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2010, 02:42:17 PM » |
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No, it is not just about chastity: as Christ passed through the locked doors, in the same way He came forth from the womb of the Virgin, reserving her intact.
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2010, 02:59:24 PM » |
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Interesting read regarding this, the Proto-Gospel of James, if I remember correctly!
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2010, 03:06:30 PM » |
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Her Ever-Virginity means both her spiritual purity and her bodily virginity.
It is as Eikos 7 of the Akathists to Our Sweetest Lord says:
New was the creation which the Creator revealed to us when He appeared, for without seed He took flesh of a Virgin and rose from the tomb without breaking the seal of either, and bodily entered to the Apostles whilst the doors were shut.
How He could have been born by natural means *and* the Theotokos could stay a virgin in the bodily sense, is a mistery. But, as I say, He actually died and resurrected, He entered places with the doors shut... how dificult could it be for the Almighty to actually preserve her bodily virginity?
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2010, 03:13:50 PM » |
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2010, 04:41:05 PM » |
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Her Ever-Virginity means both her spiritual purity and her bodily virginity.
It is as Eikos 7 of the Akathists to Our Sweetest Lord says:
New was the creation which the Creator revealed to us when He appeared, for without seed He took flesh of a Virgin and rose from the tomb without breaking the seal of either, and bodily entered to the Apostles whilst the doors were shut.
How He could have been born by natural means *and* the Theotokos could stay a virgin in the bodily sense, is a mistery. But, as I say, He actually died and resurrected, He entered places with the doors shut... how dificult could it be for the Almighty to actually preserve her bodily virginity?
Okay... I can accept that. Thanks |
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2010, 05:09:31 PM » |
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Truly, this is the Orthodox understanding of "immaculate conception".  |
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