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« on: November 07, 2010, 05:56:38 PM »
I am interested in a discussion about the distinction in the concepts of God's energies vs. God's grace.  I realize that Orthodox theology emphasizes that God's grace is uncreated. So, how does the uncreated energies of God differ from the concept of the uncreated grace of God?

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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2010, 06:57:16 PM »
I was always under the impression that they were the same? I'm sure I'm oversimplifying it.
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2010, 11:10:07 PM »
Quote from: Ortho_cat on November 07, 2010, 06:57:16 PM
I was always under the impression that they were the same? I'm sure I'm oversimplifying it.

Same here. I believe God's grace is considered a form of His energeia.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2010, 11:39:54 PM »
Quote from: Ortho_cat on November 07, 2010, 06:57:16 PM
I was always under the impression that they were the same? I'm sure I'm oversimplifying it.

I  am under the impression that you are not. Grace is the reception of His energies.
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2010, 01:10:54 AM »
Quote from: ialmisry on November 07, 2010, 11:39:54 PM
Quote from: Ortho_cat on November 07, 2010, 06:57:16 PM
I was always under the impression that they were the same? I'm sure I'm oversimplifying it.

I  am under the impression that you are not. Grace is the reception of His energies.

This is what I assumed. However, the later byzantine emphasis on essence/energy distinction led me to believe that there might be more to this theology apart from the traditional understanding of grace.
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